Other Game spoilers thread for The Last of Us TV Show - Enter at your own risk (Contains spoilers for Last of Us Parts 1 & 2)

Schmiznurf said:
Clicker kid.

Nah, she was a good choice when you find out she only leads because her brother used to. She's a housewife thrust into a position she doesn't understand and focuses too much on one thing. She was out of her depth and the actress showed that perfectly.
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I don't think this was the case. From the episode, and from what Mazin and Druckman said on the podcast, Kathleen was not out of her depth. She successfully led the overthrow of FEDRA and consolidated her power at the top. Her issue was her single-minded obsession with vengeance on all who were involved in the death of Michael. Even at the end she could have escaped but instead went after Henry. She was a dark and ruthless antagonist packaged in an unassuming and abnormal (for a vicious leader) person. I thought the casting and acting were absolutely brilliant. Part of what makes TLOU so enthralling is moments like this, you expect Immortan Joe but you get Kathleen.

edit: On second read I think we are mostly in agreement; I just don't think she did not understand how to lead. He bearded sidekick laid it out when he basically said that her brother didn't have what it took to defeat FEDRA, but she did, and that is why everyone followed her.
 
WI_Red said:
I don't think this was the case. From the episode, and from what Mazin and Druckman said on the podcast, Kathleen was not out of her depth. She successfully led the overthrow of FEDRA and consolidated her power at the top. Her issue was her single-minded obsession with vengeance on all who were involved in the death of Michael. Even at the end she could have escaped but instead went after Henry. She was a dark and ruthless antagonist packaged in an unassuming and abnormal (for a vicious leader) person. I thought the casting and acting were absolutely brilliant. Part of what makes TLOU so enthralling is moments like this, you expect Immortan Joe but you get Kathleen.
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Casting and acting was not brilliant at all. At best it is adequate or acceptable but not more.

I personally don't have a major issue with that casting but to call it "brilliant" is a tremendous overstatement.
 
ExoduS said:
Casting and acting was not brilliant at all. At best it is adequate or acceptable but not more.

I personally don't have a major issue with that casting but to call it "brilliant" is a tremendous overstatement.
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Agree to disagree, I thought it was brilliant.
 
WI_Red said:
I don't think this was the case. From the episode, and from what Mazin and Druckman said on the podcast, Kathleen was not out of her depth. She successfully led the overthrow of FEDRA and consolidated her power at the top. Her issue was her single-minded obsession with vengeance on all who were involved in the death of Michael. Even at the end she could have escaped but instead went after Henry. She was a dark and ruthless antagonist packaged in an unassuming and abnormal (for a vicious leader) person. I thought the casting and acting were absolutely brilliant. Part of what makes TLOU so enthralling is moments like this, you expect Immortan Joe but you get Kathleen.

edit: On second read I think we are mostly in agreement; I just don't think she did not understand how to lead. He bearded sidekick laid it out when he basically said that her brother didn't have what it took to defeat FEDRA, but she did, and that is why everyone followed her.
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Fun fact: the bearded sidekick is Jeffrey Pierce, who voices Tommy in the game.
 
I’ve no idea how they’re going to cover the other 3 seasons in 4 episodes after doing 1 season in 5. Kinda worries me a bit the reviews that said the last two episodes were a bit rushed.

Winter in particular is the best segment in the game (and maybe any game) so I really hope they do it justice.
 
Podcast pretty much confirmed that the girl Ellie calls out in Ep6 is Dina. I love how they've introduced second game/season stuff into season 1.

Also Joel's injury is more believable now I think over a 50ft fall onto a metal railing.
 
I was hoping they would have included the gunfight scene when the raiders invade Tommy’s sanctuary. Or even trying to escape the hospital lab from the raiders. Having said that, Joel’s injury in this is more believable than falling through glass and landing on a metal railing.

Looking forward to next weeks and I reckon this is when we will see David. I wonder how close they will stick to the source material for this.
 
RedDevilRoshi said:
I was hoping they would have included the gunfight scene when the raiders invade Tommy’s sanctuary. Or even trying to escape the hospital lab from the raiders. Having said that, Joel’s injury in this is more believable than falling through glass and landing on a metal railing.

Looking forward to next weeks and I reckon this is when we will see David. I wonder how close they will stick to the source material for this.
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I reckon (I haven't looked at the synopsis or preview vids) it'll be Left Behind, as that's 'sposed to be an episode. Be weird to put it between 8 and 9 unless there's new story stuff. It's kinda weird that they've left it so late already.
 
Drawfull said:
I reckon (I haven't looked at the synopsis or preview vids) it'll be Left Behind, as that's 'sposed to be an episode. Be weird to put it between 8 and 9 unless there's new story stuff. It's kinda weird that they've left it so late already.
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Ahh fair dos. Next weeks episode is less than a hour long when looking at the tv schedule for next week (doesn’t contain a preview or synopsis) so I reckon you are right that the Left Behind episode will be next week.

They’ve only got 3 episodes left after todays. My guessing based on that would probably be:

Episode 7 - Left Behind
Episode 8 - David vs Ellie
Episode 9 - Joel kills Marlene and lies to Ellie about the fireflies looking for a cure
 
RedDevilRoshi said:
Ahh fair dos. Next weeks episode is less than a hour long when looking at the tv schedule for next week (doesn’t contain a preview or synopsis) so I reckon you are right that the Left Behind episode will be next week.

They’ve only got 3 episodes left after todays. My guessing based on that would probably be:

Episode 7 - Left Behind
Episode 8 - David vs Ellie
Episode 9 - Joel kills Marlene and lies to Ellie about the fireflies looking for a cure
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Probably yes. The synopses were live before the series went, erm, live on Rotten but I didn't see them (the boy did, much to his annoyance - he hasn't played the second or completed the first, his luck out)

To be serious for a sec though, I don't think that looks toooo bad. Maybe the DvE stuff could feel rushed? I got stuck there the first time I played the game so it probably feels artificially long to me, but when I finally completed the game a few weeks ago, I breezed through it
 
Drawfull said:
Probably yes. The synopses were live before the series went, erm, live on Rotten but I didn't see them (the boy did, much to his annoyance - he hasn't played the second or completed the first, his luck out)

To be serious for a sec though, I don't think that looks toooo bad. Maybe the DvE stuff could feel rushed? I got stuck there the first time I played the game so it probably feels artificially long to me, but when I finally completed the game a few weeks ago, I breezed through it
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Fair enough, I avoided all of that before the series started.

I think it depends on how long the runtime they have for each episode. For example both the opening episode and the Bill/Frank episode were roughly 90 mins long. If they have a similar sort of runtime for the DvE episode then it won’t feel rushed imo and they will be able to get as much of it in both in terms of sticking to a fair bit of the source material as well as maybe delving a wee bit into David’s past that we don’t know about (similar to how they done it with the Bill/Frank episode or the last Henry/Sam one)

I also got stuck there too the first time I played it, mainly the shed bit when you are trying to hold off the clickers/runners and the final fight scene against David when you are playing hide & seek in the restaurant. But the next 3/4 times I replayed it, it felt like a breeze mainly because I know what I was expecting! :lol:
 
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RedDevilRoshi said:
Fair enough, I avoided all of that before the series started.

I think it depends on how long the runtime they have for each episode. For example both the opening episode and the Bill/Frank episode were both roughly mins long. If they have a similar sort of runtime for the DvE episode then it won’t feel rushed imo and they will be able to get as much of it in both in terms of sticking to a fair bit of the source material as well as maybe delving a wee bit into David’s past that we don’t know about (similar to how they done it with the Bill/Frank episode or the last Henry/Sam one)

I also got stuck there too the first time I played it, mainly the shed bit when you are trying to hold off the clickers/runners and the final fight scene against David when you are playing hide & seek in the restaurant. But the next 3/4 times I replayed it, it felt like a breeze mainly because I know what I was expecting! :lol:
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The opening episode was two episodes, according to the podcast, to get a better cliffhanger/ending. Series was s'posed to be ten.

As to the game, that's almost exactly what happened to me, but I had no ammo in the run-up to the restaurant as well and the snow-blindness/shit tv contrast kept getting me killed (well, I got myself killed, but you know what I mean) and I got pissed off with it. I cheesed the difficulty the next time after getting annoyed with David :nervous:

I've only ever played the intro to LB (literally as far as the chemist), so I get to see new stuff hopefully and I'm really looking forward to it :)
 
Drawfull said:
I reckon (I haven't looked at the synopsis or preview vids) it'll be Left Behind, as that's 'sposed to be an episode. Be weird to put it between 8 and 9 unless there's new story stuff. It's kinda weird that they've left it so late already.
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Next episode is called Left Behind, so its Left Behind, Winter, Ending for the last 3.
 
esmufc07 said:
Preview for nexts weeks episode looks amazing.
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I don’t remember that bit from the first game. What does it cover? I thought Ellie looks after Joel and then gets attacked by the cannibals next.
 
Part of me was disappointed that the final scene wasn’t the massive set piece it was in the game with Joel falling onto something, but then again this show is going for a much more realistic vibe (apart from the never ending ammunition in the last episode) a shank to the stomach is much easier to survive than being fully impaled
Also what is worth putting a spoiler tag in this thread or not, we’ve all played the games no?
 
I've never played the game but I thought I'd come into this thread to say how furious I am with parasitic pages on Facebook/Twitter pushing out clickbait articles with titles like: "Last of Us fans dreading reliving Joel's fate on the big screen" (paraphrasing) - they haven't expressly said what's going to happen but they hint just enough to spoil it for you. Absolute cnuts.
 
AltiUn said:
I've never played the game but I thought I'd come into this thread to say how furious I am with parasitic pages on Facebook/Twitter pushing out clickbait articles with titles like: "Last of Us fans dreading reliving Joel's fate on the big screen" (paraphrasing) - they haven't expressly said what's going to happen but they hint just enough to spoil it for you. Absolute cnuts.
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People are wankers I guess.

Did you click the link?
 
macheda14 said:
Part of me was disappointed that the final scene wasn’t the massive set piece it was in the game with Joel falling onto something, but then again this show is going for a much more realistic vibe (apart from the never ending ammunition in the last episode) a shank to the stomach is much easier to survive than being fully impaled
Also what is worth putting a spoiler tag in this thread or not, we’ve all played the games no?
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Same, but like you say, understandable decision at it makes it more realistic... But yeah, still felt a bit underwhelming

I do find myself wondering if they couldn't have got in some more of the horror elements of the game though.
 
My biggest worry is that they've got a lot of story to cram into 51 minutes next week, and even less for the finale (43 minutes).
 
Mr Pigeon said:
My biggest worry is that they've got a lot of story to cram into 51 minutes next week, and even less for the finale (43 minutes).
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Yeah, I don't understand how they're going to do it. Could have done with atleast another 2-3 episodes for this series.

Does it definitely end where the first game ended?

Episode 7 wasn't bad, it'll work better during a binge watch I think to break some intense episodes up, the calm after/before the storm type thing.
 
One Night Only said:
Yeah, I don't understand how they're going to do it. Could have done with atleast another 2-3 episodes for this series.

Does it definitely end where the first game ended?

Episode 7 wasn't bad, it'll work better during a binge watch I think to break some intense episodes up, the calm after/before the storm type thing.
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I’d imagine so. Only two episodes remaining so next weeks one is obviously David vs Ellie judging by the preview and then the finale being Joel searching for Ellie in the firefly hospital lab.
 
One Night Only said:
Yeah, I don't understand how they're going to do it. Could have done with atleast another 2-3 episodes for this series.

Does it definitely end where the first game ended?

Episode 7 wasn't bad, it'll work better during a binge watch I think to break some intense episodes up, the calm after/before the storm type thing.
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There's an interview with Druckmann and Mavin and they say that season 1 is the entirety of the first game.
 
RedDevilRoshi said:
I’d imagine so. Only two episodes remaining so next weeks one is obviously David vs Ellie judging by the preview and then the finale being Joel searching for Ellie in the firefly hospital lab.
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Drawfull said:
There's an interview with Druckmann and Mavin and they say that season 1 is the entirety of the first game.
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Cheers lads, don't think I'd read any interviews or anything about it.
 
What's the point in making a TV series from an already story reliant game.
 
Red the Bear said:
What's the point in making a TV series from an already story reliant game.
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So people who don't play games can enjoy the story?

What's the point in watching a soap when it recycles the same storylines every 3-4 years?

Why make marvel movies on story reliant comic books?

Why make movies of books?
 
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