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Anyway wasn't it 7 points? like we should have won by last week if we weren't dickheads.

It was. But there was a huge slice of luck for Brogan's goal and 2 fouls on the ball by Brogan for Philly McMahon's. Yes, Dublin controlled the game brilliantly once they took the lead, but they were very fortunate to take the lead in the first place.

I presume ye'll all be shouting for The Tribesmen tomorrow lads? You'd want to be a bad bastard not to in fairness.

Of course! I'll be there tomorrow. First time to an All Ireland Hurling Final since 2000. Considering I'd been at four before I turned 15, that's disappointing. But seeing as Offaly can't get there anymore I'll go and shout for Galway. Sure many a Galway girl took me in on wet and windy nights during my time in Corrib Village so I have a huge affinity for the place.
 
God bless us and save us tonight but Grainne Seoige is a beautiful women.

Cyril Farrell ''If Galway win tomorrow there'll be no winter in Galway, saying that there was no Summer either''

Up for The Match is mighty tonight.

Did ye see this lads? The young Brazilian lad I was on about to ye on here a few years ago. I said at the time and on the back of seeing him a fair bit for the Gort underage teams that he'd line out along side Canning some day but no sooner had I it said and he went home to Brazil, anyways he's back again has age on his side so who knows what'll happen in the future.

http://connachttribune.ie/brazilian-back-home-for-the-hurling-in-galway-909/
 
It was. But there was a huge slice of luck for Brogan's goal and 2 fouls on the ball by Brogan for Philly McMahon's. Yes, Dublin controlled the game brilliantly once they took the lead, but they were very fortunate to take the lead in the first place.



Of course! I'll be there tomorrow. First time to an All Ireland Hurling Final since 2000. Considering I'd been at four before I turned 15, that's disappointing. But seeing as Offaly can't get there anymore I'll go and shout for Galway. Sure many a Galway girl took me in on wet and windy nights during my time in Corrib Village so I have a huge affinity for the place.

Good man, I supported Offaly in 94' as well, I was above in the hill, we won the minors the same year. Many's the girls heart I broke beyont in Offaly too when I used to go to School in St. Ryanaghs CS. One of them has a pub there over the road from you in Cloghan now. Done a line with her for 6/7 years. We met too young, probably still be together today only that, I'd say.

Where are you situated tomorrow?
 
Good man, I supported Offaly in 94' as well, I was above in the hill, we won the minors the same year. Many's the girls heart I broke beyont in Offaly too when I used to go to School in St. Ryanaghs CS. One of them has a pub there over the road from you in Cloghan now. Done a line with her for 6/7 years. We met too young, probably still be together today only that, I'd say.

Where are you situated tomorrow?

You'll always get a decent pint in Cloghan.

I'm in a box tomorrow :wenger:. A friend has connections. So I'm going for the grub and drinks at 2. I hopefully won't be cross-eyed by the time throw in comes. Have to make my way home tomorrow evening though. Hopefully I'll be sharing the train with a hape of very happy Galway supporters. Maybe I'll miss my stop and end up in Taaffes for a pint of stout tomorrow night. :drool:
 
That's the job!

Anyways I better hit the hay, I've some week ahead of me. I hope it doesn't wind up for me like it did for my uncle when the footballers won in 98'. He went on an unmerciful session and didn't go home for a fortnight and when he did the wife had all his stuff bagged up in bin liners and left abroad at the front gate.

Take her handy lads and remember hit them low into Joe

 
Gave up 5 scores in the second half. Crazy! Hard luck @The Black Pearl , ye needed a goal when ye were on top I think...better team won on the day though. Ruthless.

Felt Galway tried to match Kilkenny's intensity and physicality and almost overdid it. Lost their focus a little bit and at times their discipline. Kilkenny have an unparalleled mental edge.
 
Was worried by the amount of wides Galway hit in the first half. They really needed to make more of their purple patch given Kilkenny were inevitably going to improve in the second half. A six/seven point lead was probably necessary.

Wasn't expecting them to fade quite that badly though. Wonder where they go from here?
 
Hopefully Galway keep Anthony Cunningham and they have a good league campaign. Some fine hurlers. Was all about the fight and breaking ball yesterday. Was not the most majestic of finals but Kilkenny knew how to scrap the best.
 
God bless us and save us tonight but Grainne Seoige is a beautiful women.

Cyril Farrell ''If Galway win tomorrow there'll be no winter in Galway, saying that there was no Summer either''

Up for The Match is mighty tonight.

Did ye see this lads? The young Brazilian lad I was on about to ye on here a few years ago. I said at the time and on the back of seeing him a fair bit for the Gort underage teams that he'd line out along side Canning some day but no sooner had I it said and he went home to Brazil, anyways he's back again has age on his side so who knows what'll happen in the future.

http://connachttribune.ie/brazilian-back-home-for-the-hurling-in-galway-909/

that woman is pure sex :drool::drool:
 
It was. But there was a huge slice of luck for Brogan's goal and 2 fouls on the ball by Brogan for Philly McMahon's. Yes, Dublin controlled the game brilliantly once they took the lead, but they were very fortunate to take the lead in the first place.

There was 146 mins off football, the luck ebbed and flowed and the better side won in the end.
 
There was 146 mins off football, the luck ebbed and flowed and the better side won in the end.

Fair summary.

Hope the Dubs win the final. Great craic with their fans again on Saturday. Disappointing last 20 minutes from us all the same, we looked like we had nothing left in the tank at all when we went behind.

Hard luck to Galway too, shocking second half performance but that's Kilkenny for you - they make it look that easy that everyone else looks poor by not being able to do it.

Bad week for the west, roll on 2016.
 
Fair summary.

Hope the Dubs win the final. Great craic with their fans again on Saturday. Disappointing last 20 minutes from us all the same, we looked like we had nothing left in the tank at all when we went behind.

Hard luck to Galway too, shocking second half performance but that's Kilkenny for you - they make it look that easy that everyone else looks poor by not being able to do it.

Bad week for the west, roll on 2016.

Dublin play in bursts like that though, which is why what Mayo did in the first game is the way to play them. Frustrate them and then play through them. Kerry and Tyrone have been doing it to us for years, and if Dublin get two scores you have to do all you can to stop them getting a third, then the crowd starts the roar. But in the first game the crowd sighing has the opposite effect.

I think Mayo might have been cuter, and I think they misused Aidan O Shea unfairly.

Yeah, Kilkenny are just insanely good and consistent.
 
There was 146 mins off football, the luck ebbed and flowed and the better side won in the end.

Over the 146 minutes you had the two incidents I spoke about, Seamus O'Shea getting a very harsh black card on Saturday, Diarmuid Connolly playing yesterday when he shouldn't have been and both Philly McMahon and Johnny Cooper avoiding red cards and therefor avoiding suspensions. If you can point out six incidents where Mayo got this kind of luck I'll agree with you.
 
Over the 146 minutes you had the two incidents I spoke about, Seamus O'Shea getting a very harsh black card on Saturday, Diarmuid Connolly playing yesterday when he shouldn't have been and both Philly McMahon and Johnny Cooper avoiding red cards and therefor avoiding suspensions. If you can point out six incidents where Mayo got this kind of luck I'll agree with you.

Seamus' card wasn't harsh, he grabbed a man by the throat for gods sake. It was violent conduct.

The better team won. Mayo scored 2 points from play in the first hour of the tie. They missed the boat in the first leg when Dublin wobbled. The second leg went according to plan with Dublins bench winning the tie.

I don't need you to agree with me, the nations media seem to and they carry more weight than you.
 
Seamus' card wasn't harsh, he grabbed a man by the throat for gods sake. It was violent conduct.

The better team won. Mayo scored 2 points from play in the first hour of the tie. They missed the boat in the first leg when Dublin wobbled. The second leg went according to plan with Dublins bench winning the tie.

I don't need you to agree with me, the nations media seem to and they carry more weight than you.

You clearly don't know the rules. If O'Shea's card was for violent conduct he would have got a red card. He was given a black card, for a deliberate pull down. But the black card was brought in for cynical fouls, like a deliberate pull down or trip of an opponent on the ball. This was an off the ball incident, instigated by the Dublin man, and should have been a yellow card, not a black card.

I know you don't need me to agree with me but Dublin were probably the better side over the two games. But that doesn't mean that they didn't get a huge slice of luck to help them on their way. The only issue that I brought up that you could even attempt to answer was Seamus O'Shea's black card and even on that one you were wrong. So what of the other five incidents that were clearly massiv factors in Dublin's win.

For what it's worth, when Offaly aren't playing, I love watching Dublin. They, along with Kerry, Mayo and Galway traditionally play fast, free flowing attractive football. The way football is intended to be played, in my opinion. I was saying to the lads before the first game that I didn't mind who won becasue we were going to be guaranteed an entertaining final this year, now matter which of them got over the line. But I do think Mayo have every right to feel aggreived over the course of the two games.
 
It was an aggressive act is all I meant. You can't be grabbing people by the throat, he was silly and over reacted, it wasn't harsh
 
As for the hurling, I can only assume @The Black Pearl is sitting in a corner of Murphy's on Shop street with a nice pint of stout in front of him, dreaming of what might have been. They matched Kilkenny in terms of skill and intensity for the first half, but they just couldn't keep going. I felt they needed to be further ahead when they were on top though. They had some awful wides and had chances to be 8 or 9 points clear. I always felt after each one of those misses that they would come back to bite them.

Still, there's an All-Ireland in that Galway team.
 
It was an aggressive act is all I meant. You can't be grabbing people by the throat, he was silly and over reacted, it wasn't harsh

It was harsh because the ref got it wrong. Which of these offences did he commit? (Remember, the pull down is a cynical pull down of an opponent on the ball)
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If the referee had shown him a straight red I'd have said, OK, I think it was a harsh red, but he was deemed to have used violent conduct, fair enough, red card. But he wasn't, he was shown a black card, which meant the referee didn't see it as violent conduct, therefore it should have been yellow.
 
I can't see Kerry conceding possession to Dublin as easily as Mayo did over the last 2 games. They'll push right up on Cluxton's kick-outs and make him go long.
 
As for the hurling, I can only assume @The Black Pearl is sitting in a corner of Murphy's on Shop street with a nice pint of stout in front of him, dreaming of what might have been. They matched Kilkenny in terms of skill and intensity for the first half, but they just couldn't keep going. I felt they needed to be further ahead when they were on top though. They had some awful wides and had chances to be 8 or 9 points clear. I always felt after each one of those misses that they would come back to bite them.

Still, there's an All-Ireland in that Galway team.

I wasn't in the mood for drink. I was at this yesterday morning and pretty much since along with the legendary Slyvie Linnane, needles to say he wasn't a happy camper either and between us we've hardly a ditch left around Gort and Kinvara. All cut to the butt!




I spotted this outside Loughrea there a while ago! Right now I don't think we will though. If we were to have any chance at all of beating Kilkenny we were going to have to put in at the very least a performance like the one against Tipp but that didn't happen. It was an awful feeling standing up for an entire half feeling like the life was being sucked out of you and knowing full well from very early on in that half what the outcome of the game was going to be. A pure cnut of a feeling.
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And on the back of this weekend and just feeling completely pissed off I've made the decision last night to finish up playing hurling myself now too. There'll be no more Junior B' hurling or indeed any hurling (well apart from pucking the sliotar at the geese and turkeys up the back yard) at all from TBP. All over. Sick of it. Pure. Fecking. Sick. Of. It. And that is the truth of it now.
 
It was harsh because the ref got it wrong. Which of these offences did he commit? (Remember, the pull down is a cynical pull down of an opponent on the ball)
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If the referee had shown him a straight red I'd have said, OK, I think it was a harsh red, but he was deemed to have used violent conduct, fair enough, red card. But he wasn't, he was shown a black card, which meant the referee didn't see it as violent conduct, therefore it should have been yellow.
If you deliberately pull down an opponent it's a black card offence. I think Johnny Cooper instigated the contact but then O'Shea dragged him down.
 
If you deliberately pull down an opponent it's a black card offence. I think Johnny Cooper instigated the contact but then O'Shea dragged him down.

The black card was brought in to cut out cynical fouling. Deliberately pulling down an opponent and spoiling the play. Not for off the ball offences. What O'Shea did was a yellow card offence.

This is from Jim McGuinness's column in the Irish Times on Tuesday.

It should be acknowledged that Saturday’s match was a marvellous game of football. The referee, Eddie Kinsella, officiated really well, except for the black card he issued to Seamus O’Shea. I felt that it was a wrong interpretation of the rule and that it ought to have been a yellow card. In my opinion, he didn’t cynically take the Dublin player to the ground. He threw him aside after an off-the ball altercation. It robbed Mayo of a critically important midfield figure and it is a shame that the black card, which has been prone to consistently problematic interpretations, can have such major bearing on a match of this magnitude.

Yes. The black card is issued for a deliberate pull down, but it was brought in for cynical fouling in the game. This was not such an incident. There was an off the ball altercation and Seamus O'Shea put Johnny Cooper on the ground. But It's a yellow card offence.
 
And on the back of this weekend and just feeling completely pissed off I've made the decision last night to finish up playing hurling myself now too. There'll be no more Junior B' hurling or indeed any hurling (well apart from pucking the sliotar at the geese and turkeys up the back yard) at all from TBP. All over. Sick of it. Pure. Fecking. Sick. Of. It. And that is the truth of it now.

That sounds like a pity. Maybe you'll reconsider after a layoff.
btw, Sylvie Linnane was some player in his day alright.
 
The black card was brought in to cut out cynical fouling. Deliberately pulling down an opponent and spoiling the play. Not for off the ball offences. What O'Shea did was a yellow card offence.

This is from Jim McGuinness's column in the Irish Times on Tuesday.



Yes. The black card is issued for a deliberate pull down, but it was brought in for cynical fouling in the game. This was not such an incident. There was an off the ball altercation and Seamus O'Shea put Johnny Cooper on the ground. But It's a yellow card offence.

IMO the black card has been an abject failure but the fact that it can be interpreted differently is the issue. There should be a sin bin in GAA for this type of incident and you punish a team during the game for a stupid altercation. Likewise with the checking of runs and off the ball shite. If you had a sin bin and enforced it properly then you would cut a lot of shite out very quickly. There needs to be more help for the ref though.
 
And on the back of this weekend and just feeling completely pissed off I've made the decision last night to finish up playing hurling myself now too. There'll be no more Junior B' hurling or indeed any hurling (well apart from pucking the sliotar at the geese and turkeys up the back yard) at all from TBP. All over. Sick of it. Pure. Fecking. Sick. Of. It. And that is the truth of it now.
You sound like me during the preseason and then when the running is over you should sneak back into the squad! :)
 
Looking forward to Sunday now. I think Kerry are being cute and will be very good. Kerry have similar ability to Dublin to bring quality players off the bench to change games which worries me greatly. I hope that this will be a great game where both teams go all out for it in football ability and the Kerry lads usually force Cluxton into long kicks which will make the midfield a huge battle ground.
 
Is it just me or do United play on Sunday every year the All Ireland's on? It's fecking annoying. Every year without fail, surely I'm not imagining things?
 
Is it just me or do United play on Sunday every year the All Ireland's on? It's fecking annoying. Every year without fail, surely I'm not imagining things?
I definitely remember Dublin's last two All Ireland final appearances clashing with big games; vs Cheslea in 2011 and City in 2013. Both days I cared surprisingly little about the result (especially the City one in 2013).