Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Bigger than Choccy overhearing a conversation ?
Stop being so bitter
Get done with this already. He's obviously joining us. Barcelona are just trying to control the melodramatic narrative.
Your point is valid, but this is hilarious. Most people support a family for a year on what FDJ will earn in a couple of days
There is no especially to this!
Are you still doing this?
Doing what exactly? Expressing an opinion.
What have I said that is matter of fact, untrue?
Fixed for you mate.
He probably wants to join. It's just a lot of complications dealing with a club as fecked as Barcleona are.
you added me in your post when my post was reveling in romano saying the deal was on. If you actually read my Odgen post, you wouldve seen that i was mocking odgen for adding nothing new to the conversation. Ogden literally called Laporta a liar.
You’re not coming across that way pal. You come across bitter and delusional.
You laugh at me for not being serious when it’s obvious there is no way of having a serious conversation with you. I don’t think you’re capable of it.
Yeh there was even a post that you quoted just above about 'getting someone else ffs', and that was like 2 minutes after all the new positive tweets
It's more so the "doomers" sentiment, hence I tagged that comment.
Ogden stated the only lie is the "many clubs" sentiment. That aside what Laporta has said is actually true.
Frenkie wants to stay put, but accepts due to financial issues he'll be forced out.
Barca want to keep him
Xavi wants him
I think its the blind faith mentality that's actually manipulating the statement. Laporta has literally said take a pay cut if you want to stay, otherwise sod off... It doesn't get more telling than that.
Laporta is a person who lies more than speaks. He is an unpredictable person. He loves mud and moves there better than anyone. He is also a very intelligent person and makes the movements at the right time and always having an escape route.
In the FDJ case we can only wait because anything can happen.
In the FDJ case we can only wait because anything can happen.
And you don't think... given all the reports that Barca want him gone, that offer is going to be something they KNOW he won't accept?
so does @Keefy18
We can agree to disagree and that's absolutely fine. You don't want to accept my opinions and that's OK with me.
I don't recall sending laughing faces? I have stated I believe you are going on this whole transfer on blind faith and mocking others for their opinions.
The deal may be done, still I'm not convinced we'll get the best version of FDJ for the obvious reason he doesn't want to be at United.
Lets be honest, we most likely wouldn't of even entered into a transfer discussion with Barca if they were financially stable.
Laporta has to publicly signal that his hands are tied in terms of keeping de Jong so he doesn't appear to hold any blame for his departure.
There's still no doubt that de Jong is at his dream club and wants to stay there.
There's still no doubt that de Jong is at his dream club and wants to stay there.
What I mean is, why is he coming out talking as he is, if there's been no talks of him leaving? If the player was saying I want to go, then I could understand his comments.
Just a big PR game. Not to sure why fans fall for it but they do.
i think stating we wouldn't enter discussions with a club a player if they weren't for sale is pretty obvious don't you?
Yeah... that tweet was posted at silly AM this morning and was literally in reference to the quotes by Laporta
If they were financially stable De Jong wouldn't even be available. But the facts are they aren't and he is. To not try and take advantage of that when you've just brought in a manager that got more out of FDJ than Barca have would be pretty poor.
I will, dont worry.
How on earth will it be very similar to the Fabregas shambles?
Where did Koeman say Frenkie told him personally?
Do you actually think they can consider keeping Frenkie? From what I understand, they can barely register players signed from January.
They need a lot more breathing room than they currently have.
As it stands currently they cant.
So in other words you're gonna cry whatever happens?
"Difficult for him to accept"
Barca playing so many games.
people just need to stop living in extremes. "He doesn't want to come" is obviously simplifying things ... I'm sure that, in a perfect world, de Jong would prefer to stay at Barcelona, a club he clearly loves. But it's also undeniable that their financial situation is dire, to say the least. Whatever Señor Levers (I love that name so I'll just steal it, sorry @hellhunter ) says publicly, they need to sell Frenkie in order to somehow make it work and register new players. Those are cold hard facts, the rest is just posturing and setting up a narrative. As for de Jong, even if he'd prefer to stay, I have no doubts that he'd accept coming to United and working with Ten Hag (who I think is absolute key in all of this) again. If he wasn't, United wouldn't have spent weeks trying to negotiate a fee. Even if we all agree that incompetence has been rife at this club over the past years, not even our board would be that daft.
if you look at all those things from a logical standpoint, everything is still pointing towards de Jong being sold to United. Relax, people.
) says publicly, they need to sell Frenkie in order to somehow make it work and register new players. Those are cold hard facts, the rest is just posturing and setting up a narrative. As for de Jong, even if he'd prefer to stay, I have no doubts that he'd accept coming to United and working with Ten Hag (who I think is absolute key in all of this) again. If he wasn't, United wouldn't have spent weeks trying to negotiate a fee. Even if we all agree that incompetence has been rife at this club over the past years, not even our board would be that daft.if you look at all those things from a logical standpoint, everything is still pointing towards de Jong being sold to United. Relax, people.
This tweet will just pass unnoticed.
He really must love the football club and the lifestyle if he decides to stay in Barcelona.
From a sporting point of view United and Barcelona are equal as we both won't challenge for the big trophies. So, if I was Frenkie, I would choose to be financially secure right now. The club wants you to stay, but you have to accept a paycut. Ok, fair enough. But like you mentioned, a football career is short and there's no guarantee de Jong will get a bigger contract if Barca decides to sell him.
Actually it's sad. Barcelona knows de Jong likes the club and wants to stay. They are using these sentiments to try and let him take a paycut. He's in his prime, a worldclass player is his position. Why accept less what he deserves?
They'll struggle to do that because they can't register new players
Wedding coming up, new wife, possibly starting a family. Would be hard to do on a pay cut.
At the end of the day, we shouldn’t be signing players who really don’t want to come and are only moving because they’re forced to. It’s a blow if he doesn’t come but we need to move on and find new targets I reckon
Has anyone seen then both in the same room?
"We have no intention of selling him"
"We want to keep him"
"mental gymnastics"
Imagine being told we really want to keep you Frenkie, honest, we'll do anything to get you to stay but we're going to have to drastically reduced your wages. 'Get fecked' is the only reasonable response I can think of.
Rightly so. They agreed on a contract, they should honor it.
Especially when they asked him to defer his wages. They are a fecking circus.
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