Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap

Frenkie to United?

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Berbaclass said:
Does he have that win at all costs mentality?
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Honestly, no I don't think so. One of his small weaknesses is that he is prone to going missing when the going gets especially tough. Think that's what most Barcafans critisize him for, he's a bit of a fair weather player.

Doesn't mean he doesn't perform against top sides mind you, since he was great against Denmark, Germany and Belgium this year.
 
BootsyCollins said:
Ok, thanks, i am calm now. Your post and a emergency rub took the worst angst away
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KirkDuyt said:
Honestly, no I don't think so. One of his small weaknesses is that he is prone to going missing when the going gets especially tough. Think that's what most Barcafans critisize him for, he's a bit of a fair weather player.

Doesn't mean he doesn't perform against top sides mind you, since he was great against Denmark, Germany and Belgium this year.
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Oh great :lol:
 
Dumbstar said:
To be fair to Barca are Utd going to achieve any further conditions like Frenkie winning the PL, CL, golden boot, Balloon Door, finish top 4? Unless Barca get money if Utd finish top 6 again is an acceptable condition.
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Looks like your side has been waiting for very long to rub it in eh? As compared to SAF era, you guys have only won the EPL once despite having the best team. We even managed to get 2nd twice despite being on our worst cycle. Pretty absymal.

Anyway Barca trying to increase the initial fee has nothing to do with whether they are dealing with a club that can challenge for honours consistently. They are trying to increase it because their financial situation is very bad, Manchester United is in a strong financial position and they are also looking at the funds for their future transfers. It is just opportunistic behaviour by them.
 
Brwned said:
He can pass unlike Kovacic though, right? To me there’s a pretty wide gap between Verratti and Kovacic on that count, and if he’s on the Kovacic side of things…it’s hard to see how a midfielder that can’t pass is worth that kind of money.
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Kovacic can pass, he isn’t a playmaker in the way the likes of Alonso or Scholes were but he can pass pretty good.
 
RoyH1 said:
Great bit of business if/when it becomes official
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Exactly! This is the reason why Manchester United were patient with the deal as they knew that Barcelona had no choice and eventually will have to come to a compromise. Yet some of our "fans" were crying why we have not thrown the entire budget at De Jong.

Business transactions are always about getting the best value, which is not something that can be done quickly all the time.
 
Todays updates confuse me. It's edging closer but no fee is yet agreed.

Doesn't that mean it's basically the same?
 
OpenIntrovert said:
Looks like your side has been waiting for very long to rub it in eh? As compared to SAF era, you guys have only won the EPL once despite having the best team. We even managed to get 2nd twice despite being on our worst cycle. Pretty absymal.

Anyway Barca trying to increase the initial fee has nothing to do with whether they are dealing with a club that can challenge for honours consistently. They are trying to increase it because their financial situation is very bad, Manchester United is in a strong financial position and they are also looking at the funds for their future transfers. It is just opportunistic behaviour by them.
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Tbf to him at least he was humble enough to add the top 4 trophy at the end considering that's the best they could offer Barca over us atm
 
OmarUnited4ever said:
I said this many times, United did well in negotiating the price down, De Jong is a superb player, normally Barca would not sell him, but they had financial issues, which was what United took advantage of, Barca needed De Jong's wages off the books plus cash from his transfer fee, United offered a very respectable 65M euros upfront, so, from Barca's perspective, this definitely alleviates their financial issues, while it is also a good deal for United.

Also, Barca got 2 excellent home grown CMs in Pedri & Gavi, so De Jong's departure would not be a major loss.

I would say this is still a win-win outcome for both Barca & United.
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I don't think 65 is a good deal for Barça at all. In fact, I think it is extremely bad. Not bad, EXTREMELY BAD.
I would honestly be very surprised if we get less that 80 between the "base" price and "guaranteed addons". It is not the same add-ons like winning the Ballon D'or or 1 million per appearance up to 20, for citing 2 examples.
 
People should keep in mind that we once signed Obi Mikel.:angel:
 
From the BBC (Simon Stone)

Manchester United have reached a broad agreement over a 65m euro (£56m) fee, plus add-ons, with Barcelona for the Netherlands midfielder Frenkie de Jong.

However, club sources say the deal is not done and there are still significant issues to work through.
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Does this mean personal terms have yet to be agreed?
 
KirkDuyt said:
He's my favorite current Dutch player by far. His ability to cut through lines both by dribbling post opponents or passing is amazing. Coaches should just resist the urge to turn him into an attacking player, because he really isn't one.

When used correctly and one form, he is one of the best midfielders in the world if you ask me.

He's a very moany twat though, which is a bit of a shame. Off the pitch he's a nice dude though (at least if his interviews are something to go by).

Bottomline 9.5/10 player.
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