Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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There is no market where it's a tight budget.
It is relative to how bad our squad is, and how much players cost in the current market. Every half decent player costs us £50m and has done for years.
We've lost 2 CM's from an already weak midfield and it's looking unlikely we'll get a DM alongside De Jong. We only have 3 senior attacking players currently. The less said about our awful defence the better (although I suppose we're fine on pure numbers, it's just quality that is the issue).
I suppose you can argue the damage was done in previous windows and it's not that our budget is low this summer, it's just not enough to fix 9 years worth of terrible transfer dealings. But in the spirit of the discussion, the budget is tight relative to what we need.
He's functioning like an aggregator here in that he's referring to this Tweet from CarpetasFCB.
Based on that source and current exchange rates, it is £69m + £10m add-ons (£79m total) when converted to pounds, which is similar to the numerical numbers you have posted there.
If you expected the deal to be €65+€15 then that would be £55m+£13m (£68m total). Not sure that <£60m as a base cost has ever been seriously considered possible.
All the negotiating and waiting to end up paying over the odds anyway
Classic United
Well now will see how much is left to put in any kind of offer for Antony
In an ideal world it's Maguires replacement.
I wouldn't take the fees reported by Barca sources/journalists as an absolute truth. Maybe wait till what some reputable British sources confirm it.
It depends on your needs.
In an ideal world United need a top midfielder (De Jong) that is going to cost around 80m? They also need a right back, CB and a striker. And that’s the bare minimum. In this case that’s a fairly conservative budget, there’s no need to be difficult.
Exactly this.
Hang in there. We’re on the vinegar strokes.
That Ramos saga was one of the worst wasn't it.
We lack depth at CB but lack quality full stop at RB so it's a dilemma for me
No it doesn't. It depends on your own finances and the averages in your industry. Our budget is massive, it's a large budget in Football.
It's not because we may need to spend 400m to fix the team that 120m-150m per year is a tight budget, on the contrary it's a large budget and unlike most teams we can do it in 3 instead of 5 years or never.
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Would say DM and RW as well
As I said, bare minimum.
Yes, it does. You are just arguing for the sake of it
You are just making a silly point and you know it.
Scary prospect we need 6 players for first XI
No, it’s you who are dragging out something for the sake of it as you always do.
So I shouldn't comment on a point you made?
Well, you are always going to comment no matter what. You just happen to be wrong this particular time, that’s okay.
There is no problem if I'm wrong, we had two posts and you decided to make it personal out of nowhere. I won't bother you in the future.
What about a striker?
Cavani's gone; no Greenwood for the foreseeable; Marcus isn't prolific even when in form, and Ronnie is 37yrs.
Not to make top 4 next season, smart signings this window should sort us.
We need a 3 or 4 plan to hit the top again.
Yes, it does. You are just arguing for the sake of it
It’s not. Because the team ‘needs 8 players’ doesn’t mean anything less than the 300m that would take is ‘small’. The idea isn’t to buy every single player the squad needs this summer. And if it is to be done over time, 150m (net) is not small increments.
The reason you are calling it small is because you are looking at it in the context of what the team needs, not what we want to bring in this summer. It’s like saying anything less than 1bn is a small budget for Newcastle, on the basis that their objective is to build a league and CL winning team.
You are right. My apologies.
You know, I entirely forgot about Tony ( hard to believe, I'm sure you'll agree ).
Right, we can scratch a new forward off the list. Totally sorted in that department.
Did anybody actually believe it was real?
I hope FDJ wears a cape because he will need super powers to make us any better, when he has one of McFred covering his ass and Maguire being a complete nervous wreck on the ball behind him.
Yeah only time I thought that might happen was when we got the yellow ticker on SSN, went nowhere after that much like that Gundogan to Utd stuff around the same time as well
I did. Many others too.
So what positions is sufficient to get top 4 for you then
Half of the thread I think.
It’s a huge budget but nowhere near enough to close the gap significantly on City and Liverpool. In that sense it doesn’t matter that it is huge, it is in fact tiny in comparison to what is needed. A fact we need to accept.
What concerns me is not the amount but how it is spent and on whose say so.
Ooh, that was a painful one.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sk...ted-close-to-agreeing-deal-for-ilkay-gundogan
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