If it’s true, we should walk away.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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If it’s true, we should walk away.
At Barça they are fully convinced that they will be able to sign Bernardo Silva. This has been transferred to him through his agent, Mendes. The player environment believes that they must have patience.
Exchanges ruled out: City do not want De Jong.
Well, they better take that new offer of ours as soon as they can then hadn't they?
In all honesty, i see them taking our new offer (when we finally get around to bidding) and using the funds to sign Silva
Just give barca 20m if he wins Eurovision.
Barca aren't buying Silva without selling De Jong. So yeah, this is happening.
No communication? So our officials in Barcelona have been on holiday
Getting bent over the barrel by a skint club like Barca, I like the player but if the are digging their heels this deep it's best to walk away. They'll be scrambling to offload him and get his wages off the book in 2 months anyway.
If reports are correct last week we offered 70 plus bonuses and some reports suggested that the two teams are 20m apart. So Barcelona demanding 100m makes sense.
Llorens mentioned this figure when he was recapping what was reported two weeks ago in this YouTube video (8:25 onwards).
His sources didn't update him on any new info on the acceptable fees, but they did inform him that Frenkie's more open to leaving + United's pushing harder for the transfer. Beyond that, however, Llorens didn't report anything new. The whole segment was basically a recap/summary of past events.
Walk away and buy who. He's clearly key to the plan, we'd be starting off Ten Hag's reign playing catch up, it's a no from me. Don't want us getting rinsed, but this is a signing that must happen. And it will.
How can you have a plan that relies on one player? What if he didn't want to come? Would we have just called it a day?
Move on if Barca want 100M. Not many players are worth that even not including Barcelona's financial situation. But De Jong is not one of them players anyway
We can't keep going along like this with everyone saying and expecting a big week and NOTHING happening week after week just journalists repeating the same things.. we need to get bodies in. The Tour starts in less than 3 weeks.
something has to give this week.
If Erik Ten Hag's only plan is getting De Jong he isn't a great manager and the job is too big for him. He needs alternatives like a Klopp or Pep would (that's what the club hired him for, to be the next Pep or Klopp). Scouting reports from all over the World on his desk including that River Plate midfielder that's meant to be the dogs bollocks and cheap. Maybe he should read them scout reports instead of relying on signing Ajax or former Ajax players that may or not flop in the Premier League (there's no guarantees just because he managed them at Ajax in the Dutch League)
We can't keep going along like this with everyone saying and expecting a big week and NOTHING happening week after week just journalists repeating the same things.. we need to get bodies in. The Tour starts in less than 3 weeks.
something has to give this week.
If Erik Ten Hag's only plan is getting De Jong he isn't a great manager and the job is too big for him. He needs alternatives like a Klopp or Pep would (that's what the club hired him for, to be the next Pep or Klopp). Scouting reports from all over the World on his desk including that River Plate midfielder that's meant to be the dogs bollocks and cheap. Maybe he should read them scout reports instead of relying on signing Ajax or former Ajax players that may or not flop in the Premier League (there's no guarantees just because he managed them at Ajax in the Dutch League)
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I don't really crave negativity and anger, maybe sadness, disappointment, or more like being afraid players coming to United for the money and money only, we all know how that usually ends up. I don't think we have wage structure, always imagine Judge throwing money like drunk sailor while waving his arms in the air like he don't care, to show how brilliant he is. Like instead of "show me the money" he shouts "I'll give you the money". Yes, we have money, it does not mean we have to give players ludicrous wages because they are big stars. If I want to look at stars I look up at night, at United, want players with both feet on the ground and lots of work and great performances. Tired of being down and out after every bloody game. If they played great and won games and trophies, could not care less about their wages. But to our stars money is nr.1 priority.
Ok, will stop crying now.
Darn Doc, it is negativity!!!
Oooh, thanks, depressed now as well.
When you look at the last nine years, dont you get tired of plan b c d e
Only if they're crap. Nobody in here was talking about FdJ prior to the summer so I think there's probably a lot of options that we (the supporters) would be happy with. ETH might just have to find a player that brings the same qualities of they insist on so much money because, in my opinion, there's no point blowing most of the budget on one player when we need so much. He won't make enough of a difference in his own.
Slightly concerned that we're going to drag this one out, only to ultimately not get the player, and then be in a rush to sign others quickly. Personally, I don't see this happening.
No communication? So our officials in Barcelona have been on holiday
Uniteds CEO confirmed we have people in Barcelona working on the deal , so saying there's been no communication is clearly a lie
I will accept things have changed or are changing behind the scenes if we show them the middle finger and walk away.
Sign eriksen on a free and take it from there, if barcelona get back to us tell them we only have 60m left! and that too euros.
The only way that both Arnold and Llorens can be right is if Arnold gave us very recent info (info that really shouldn't be leaked this soon), whilst Llorens is going by old info.
Spanish journalist keep recycling the same news again and again about FDJ
sorry mate, by no means a criticism of you but it does seem everyone is angry these days and instead of getting away from it we all seem to seek more of these 'dark side' feelings. Although to be fair, there was lots of negativity 20 years ago, too, we just called it cynicism and acted all cool about it.
Ok, €60m up front, €10m if we win a title / win a Euro trophy / he’s top scorer in the PL / he scores a hat trick v Liverpool.
We shall meet in the middle
If that happened you’d complain about us not backing the manager.
That I would do if we signed no one. Even prime saf didn't always get to sign his prime targets in the transfer market so why should ten hag ? Part of being a great manager is being able to work with alternatives.
Very strong Fabregas and Thiago vibes with this De Jong rumor. This is Barcelona we're talking about here. One of the dirtiest, shadiest dealers in the transfer market. No way in hell we're playing ball with this lot. There's a reason English clubs don't do much with Real or Barcelona. I'm sure they'll find someone to bail them out again maybe Juve, PSG, Chelsea or City. I've already moved on.
According to Romano it's always been €85m that they want, but people have already started frustrating themselves because of this nothing source
Think you’ve got most of it but just to add to this — within the negotiations with the player and his agent there is another subsection which will be things like the actual salary, bonuses, image rights, any commercial deals/sponsorships etc. Probably also a bit of time working out living arrangements for the player and his family - schools if kids involved etc. Lots of little things that become bigger naturally as the scale of transfer takes place.
These are mainly tasks of the pre sales process. Once a bid had been submitted all these points have been clarified already.
You don't have to revisit all these points again before submitting a second bit. They don't change. Only the transfer fee and maybe the triggers to pay the variables need to be adjusted. Should be done in hours rather than days.
No problem, we should offer them Bayern style addons, 10m + 15m each time he wins Balon D'or.
So bring in Erik den to replace fdj , despite not being the same type of player? Bring in neves who isn’t as mobile as fdj so can’t do the same job? Vitinha who literally no one had heard of? If we are going for random average players he doesn’t want, why not just stick with mcFred? Maybe he does have other players, but he would prefer fdj? If so it’s up to the board to decide what is value for money, and when to stop negotiations, not ten hag. The board can turn around and say we will get someone else off your list. Of course it does mean from day one you you are not backing your manager. you are losing your minds over some tier 4 source.
"This deal is dragging more than I thought it would. Oh I know - Barca MUST be looking for more cash than previously thought, thats the ONLY reason a deal could be delayed. I'll add an extra €5m onto the previous tweets figure"
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According to Laurie (Athletic) we were 10-15m euros away from deal. First offer was of 60+10 which means Barca are holding out for 85m. Second bid is rumoured to be 70+10. Most likely it will be closed by next weekend
We will get him in a months time for 90 mill euros. That way both clubs can walk away satisfied. Utd will brag we saved 10 mill euros
What are you on about bragging? We'll have been shafted at that price.
Ha yep quite predictable
How bad a journalist is Llorens that he missed the Twitter storm from that video before writing this?
I'm going to go out on a limb and call the CEO Tier 1 and this chap just rumor mill
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