Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap

Frenkie to United?

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KirkDuyt said:
Wait, that's a drool emoji? I always thought it was some sort of weird toothpick in his mouth like a cowboy.
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Oh, the famous cowboy toothpick emoji!


Jibbs said:
The guy will be taken to cleaners in EPL, he is slow and has physicality of a ballerina. For a guy like him to work in EPL you need a powerhouse like Rice to be beside him and devise some strategy that the two of them gel together as the two midfield pivots.
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Yeah, just like so many small technical players in the mound of Silva, Mata, Eriksen etc. that were broken by this league…

He also seemed to struggle a lot against England in 2019 despite somehow ending up the best player on the pitch… can you actually point to a game where he had struggled on the back of him lacking physique? Or is it just another cold wet Wednesday night in Stoke argument?
 
V.O. said:
But that just says if the clause is met, the player can move. We already know that!

How is having an unattainable clause better, or any different from having no clause for the selling club?
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I’m not saying it’s better, I’m saying it’s worse for the player
 
Jibbs said:
The guy will be taken to cleaners in EPL, he is slow and has physicality of a ballerina. For a guy like him to work in EPL you need a powerhouse like Rice to be beside him and devise some strategy that the two of them gel together as the two midfield pivots.
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Frenkie de Jong is known to be one of the quickest midfielders out there. Nor is he physically weak. How do people come up with this stuff?
 
Jibbs said:
The guy will be taken to cleaners in EPL, he is slow and has physicality of a ballerina. For a guy like him to work in EPL you need a powerhouse like Rice to be beside him and devise some strategy that the two of them gel together as the two midfield pivots.
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Frenkie is one of the quickest CMs in the game. He’d be unstoppable in this league.
 
Jibbs said:
The guy will be taken to cleaners in EPL, he is slow and has physicality of a ballerina. For a guy like him to work in EPL you need a powerhouse like Rice to be beside him and devise some strategy that the two of them gel together as the two midfield pivots.
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He's actually very fast and surprisingly tall. The fact he falls over so much is because he's a whingy fecker, not a lack of strength :wenger:
 
Jibbs said:
The guy will be taken to cleaners in EPL, he is slow and has physicality of a ballerina. For a guy like him to work in EPL you need a powerhouse like Rice to be beside him and devise some strategy that the two of them gel together as the two midfield pivots.
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He's not huge, but he'd look like Hulk Hogan next to Ander Herrera, who did perfectly well for us.

golden_blunder said:
I’m not saying it’s better, I’m saying it’s worse for the player
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How? A release clause can never be worse than no release clause for the player.
 
Barca might be a train wreck right now, but I still don't see this guy leaving them for us to play for Michael Carrick.
 
Seij said:
Barca might be a train wreck right now, but I still don't see this guy leaving them for us to play for Michael Carrick.
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If we are in agreement with Ten Hag to join in the summer I could see De Jong joining us.
 
Seij said:
Barca might be a train wreck right now, but I still don't see this guy leaving them for us to play for Michael Carrick.
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He won't be playing for Carrick and even if he wants to join, we can't sign him in November.
 
harms said:
Yeah, just like so many small technical players in the mound of Silva, Mata, Eriksen etc. that were broken by this league…

He also seemed to struggle a lot against England in 2019 despite somehow ending up the best player on the pitch… can you actually point to a game where he had struggled on the back of him lacking physique? Or is it just another cold wet Wednesday night in Stoke argument?
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haha, if it were up to some posters here, we'll have more McTominays playing for us than players like Verratti DeJong Pedri and Gavi.
 
Like I said the only way he leaves is if Xavi doesn't want him. Or if someone makes a crazy offer like 150 mil. He's played every single minute so far under xavi and xavi has said he's gonna shoulder even more responsibility. Doesn't look like a player on his way out. He's basically 6 months into a five year contract as well. Barca are gonna have a much harder time keeping Gavi who has a 50 mil release clause. Chelsea are reportedly ready to pay it.
 
Sinbad the sailor said:
Like I said the only way he leaves is if Xavi doesn't want him. Or if someone makes a crazy offer like 150 mil. He's played every single minute so far under xavi and xavi has said he's gonna shoulder even more responsibility. Doesn't look like a player on his way out. He's basically 6 months into a five year contract as well. Barca are gonna have a much harder time keeping Gavi who has a 50 mil release clause. Chelsea are reportedly ready to pay it.
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De Jong signed a new deal?
 
Sinbad the sailor said:
Like I said the only way he leaves is if Xavi doesn't want him. Or if someone makes a crazy offer like 150 mil. He's played every single minute so far under xavi and xavi has said he's gonna shoulder even more responsibility. Doesn't look like a player on his way out. He's basically 6 months into a five year contract as well. Barca are gonna have a much harder time keeping Gavi who has a 50 mil release clause. Chelsea are reportedly ready to pay it.
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Gavi won't go to Chelsea, he's 17, has a lot of players ahead of him over there, while at Barcelona he'll break into the team quicker, Gavi probably will seek advise from Enrique and him being a former Barcelona player and coach will advise him to stay put, as well as I'm sure Gavi idolize Xavi, getting the chance to learn and be coached by him will be valuable, so personally don't think he'll go anywhere despite that 50m release clause.

de Jong is an odd case to an extent, he'll be 25 at the end of this season nearing his peak years, maybe Xavi works some miracles, but there is a chance Barcelona might not make CL and it may take another 2-3 years before they return to the top again, maybe even longer, so I believe it'll be a tough decision for him to make. I feel it's more likely he goes to City if he leaves, since Barcelona fancy a few of there players a potential swap deal would be more likely as well as him being typical made to a Pep team and his development as a player would be better there.
 
I’d be happy for Ten Hag to come in and bring both him and Onana.
 
DoneDaDa said:
Gavi won't go to Chelsea, he's 17, has a lot of players ahead of him over there, while at Barcelona he'll break into the team quicker, Gavi probably will seek advise from Enrique and him being a former Barcelona player and coach will advise him to stay put, as well as I'm sure Gavi idolize Xavi, getting the chance to learn and be coached by him will be valuable, so personally don't think he'll go anywhere despite that 50m release clause.

de Jong is an odd case to an extent, he'll be 25 at the end of this season nearing his peak years, maybe Xavi works some miracles, but there is a chance Barcelona might not make CL and it may take another 2-3 years before they return to the top again, maybe even longer, so I believe it'll be a tough decision for him to make. I feel it's more likely he goes to City if he leaves, since Barcelona fancy a few of there players a potential swap deal would be more likely as well as him being typical made to a Pep team and his development as a player would be better there.
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Oh I didn't say Gavi would want to leave. I said he was attainable. If pedri or de Jong decided to leave barca could simply tell them to sit down and zip it. Gavi hasn't signed a long contract yet so he has leverage. But yeah, he's very unlikely to leave. So are the rest of them tbh.
 
Bekkalokk said:
Why? Just to be "different"? What could Onana who is basically an Inter-player possibly bring that De Gea, Henderson or Heaton does not allready give us?
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Don’t worry yourself. You have already answered your own question - I simply want to he ‘different’.
 
If he becomes available most top clubs in Europe will be sniffing around so we'll face stiff competition. Let's hope whichever manager Rangnick recommends to us next summer can tempt him here.
 
He's on the bench for Barca? :confused:

Xavi is really begging for other clubs to swoop in.
 
Signing him is basically signing Ten Hag for me.
 
I’ve never really seen a lot of this guy. Is he the answer to our midfield woes? And are Barcelona really gonna let someone that seems so highly rated leave?
 
Swedish_Plumber said:
I’ve never really seen a lot of this guy. Is he the answer to our midfield woes? And are Barcelona really gonna let someone that seems so highly rated leave?
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All I know is no matter what the question is in regards to our midfield the answer is never going to be McTominay, Fred and Matic. De Jong is the closest thing to a genuine deep lying playmaker that dictates tempo as you’ll get in football, if we could get him and Rice with what we have in all the other positions and a top head coach we’d be set to challenge.
 
Xavi literally said he was untouchable yesterday. I don't know why people keep going on about him here.
 
VanDeBank said:
You'd drop Busquets?
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Sadly right now i don't think they can. But in general terms? Yeah, absolutely. De Jong is the future. And is not unplayable against great pressing sides
 
VanDeBank said:
A girl can dream.

They're practically broke and half their squad is shite, so how else are they going to get good players?
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Definitely not by selling their one of the remaining good players.
 
Aren’t Barcelona going bankrupt because of all the revenue that’s gone missing due to Messi sodding off?
 
In the new formation he’s exactly what we need next to Fred
 
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