Majority of muppets in here (including me 
) even after there looks to be less than zero chance of this happening:
) even after there looks to be less than zero chance of this happening:Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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Some player. He should come where he will be lovedThey've not only done that, they have launched a full scale media campaign against him as well. That's fecked up. Their own fans are booing and hurling abuse at him when he arrives for matches and training. He has unbelievable mental fortitude to be able to deal with all this and still perform exceptionally well. Which only makes me want him more
Casemiro + FDJ + Eriksen is some midfield alright. Where does that leave Bruno though?
On the wing, as 10 in a diamond or on the bench. Bruno on the wing isn't too dissimilar to Tadic for Ajax, I think
The Bench? Which is where he deserves to be on current form.
Is there any reason to think there is a chance? Barca clearly aren't bothered enough to force him and he seems quite happy to stay despite the issues, not sure what there is left here
Then on the bench it is then. A bit wasted considering his talents and what he has done 2 seasons ago
Majority of muppets in here (including me
Randy:" I didin`t hear no bell"
It’s over. Mikky has won. Barcelona hates Frenkie but at least she gets to lie on the beach and surf all day.
Agreed. Casemiro is one hell of a player to have next to you. He'll provide you with cover, defense and he'll take revenge if someone makes a bad tackle on you. Before, we were asking de Jong to carry our midfield pretty much single handedly - now we're asking him to just be its playmaker. Hopefully that makes a difference.
You have said it yourself.
I think Bruno flourished in the team we had at the time because we were relying on individual moments of magic from him (or anyone) to create goals and win games. Last season (and so far this season), he has shown a complete inability to play within a system that demands ball retention, accurate passing and building possession.
I actually do not mind him trying the Hollywood passes or flicks – it is the countless times he misplaces even simple passes that instantly kill our attack and hand possession back to the other team that frustrate me. That and how he seems to receive most of his passes after dropping deep with his back to the opposition goal, and then passing it straight back to whichever defender passed him the ball.
We’re signing the best DM in the world so go feck yourself DJ st Barca. We dont need you haha.
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Key part here being United insist a move for De Jong is not dead. The rest is just a bunch of opinions and assumptions.
Key part here being United insist a move for De Jong is not dead. The rest is just a bunch of opinions and assumptions.
If Arnold's £200mil+sales number was correct we are looking at least £212 after Pereira.
Martinez - £50mil
Casemiro - £55mil
Malacia - £12mil.
So £117 mil spent with another £95mil to spend. Could still fetch us de Jong and another goalkeeper maybe?
I think one other thing that the casemiro deal does for us in case we're still in for him is the ability to take this to the wire, barca don't hold all the chips anymore and we don't need to panic buy anymore .
At this point I guess we'd just have to wait till deadline, barca still need him to reduce his wages and I don't think he's gonna do that, no other team mist be in for him either because Chelsea would have just gotten him by this point.
At this point I guess we'd just have to wait till deadline, barca still need him to reduce his wages and I don't think he's gonna do that, no other team mist be in for him either because Chelsea would have just gotten him by this point.
The only possibility of a "good" window is Casemiro and FDJ.
We're kidding ourselves if Casemiro and Fred is even considered a top 4 challenger.
We're kidding ourselves if Casemiro and Fred is even considered a top 4 challenger.
Hopefully on the bench until he proves himself once again against lesser opposition.
No one knows even the tier 1 journalists know the real situation behind this deal and everyone just riling up the crowd with their assumptions.
There's still potentially Bailly and AWB to leave + Williams in January should be baked in. A potential £40m right there.
WOULD fetch us De Jong, a GK and a FW. We're not short of cash, it is just a matter of funds being released/front loaded.
Bailly + AWB leaving won't fetch us 40m. Bailly is around 5-10m and AWB is another 10m. Even if Williams leaves he will be another 5m. Thats no where close to 40m.
How do you know what has been said behind closed doors?
The Athletic article literally mentioned that they were looking to set up a legal case against his representatives.
The silence is going to before one last push to kick him out/to sign him. I still think he stays but signing Casemiro gives United leverage/less desperation + chasing after SMS too.
Bailly is around £12m and AWB the same. Williams has been valued at £15m with other clubs interested.
You're seriously undervaluing the players. We sold Dan James for £30m 12 months ago ffs.
That's not mentioning Garner for £15-20 either.
So, yes, definitely £40-60m there.
It would be an incredible window if we bagged Frenkie De Jong and Casemiro.
Dan James selling figure was a miracle. Leeds were so stupid to pay that much. And no one is paying 15m for Williams. If anything he leaves on a loan.
Bailly's asking price has been said to be around 10, Williams' is around 15 and AWB first offer from Palace is said to be around 10 which I am sure will probably turn into closer to 12.5 so near enough £37.5mil. close to 50 if you factor in Andreas.
On the bench as he's been fecking crap for ages and can have zero complaints.
I almost admire the optimism of people who still think this is on. Almost.
But if he gets benched who is going to pass to the fella sitting in row Z?
We got plenty of people who can do that. Ronaldo, Rashford, Fred etc.
2 seasons ago? Bench is exactly where he belongs then isn't it
They need a friendly punch of reality. Any takers?
By all accounts we seem 95% likely to land Casemiro.
So, yeah. I think we're nailed on for both to drag out to the end of the window and end up with Raboit still.
It never was on. He has no interest in coming here. We could have spent the whole summer trying to sign Mbappe and it would have been the same thing.
Exactly this. I got warned for saying we couldn't convince him from the mods.
There was nothing from De Jong's side that even hinted he is interested in the deal.
People say we wouldnt be in for him unless we had guarantees, clearly dont know how our club operates.
Sounds exactly like our Donny
A good kicking aswell.
If we use Cas & Fred as the Brazil NT do, Fred will come alive and look a different player to the one we see week in wee’ out for Utd. I believe we will see the player city were chasing.
Casemiro and Fred are Brazils starting midfield at present, they may well work well together. Obviously FDJ is an upgrade on Fred but if Barca keep pissing about feck them.
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