Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap

Frenkie to United?


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Fecking hate Romero. He's a clickbaiting youtuber not a journalist. Barca is a circus surrounded by clowns. Even their journalists are morons.
 
Him staying at Barca is a bit embarrassing given the 14 week chase of him.

But him going to Chelsea is utter humiliation on the world stage. Someone needs to be held accountable for this. They won't be.

I wouldn’t be embarrassed as a fan or as a club if he stayed on his current deal, we knew from the start that was his preference. We simply made a deal in case that wasn’t possible.

Him going to Chelsea… if I was Murtough that would cause me to completely rethink how much transfer responsibility I would allow the manager to have. Would be an absolutely epic miscalculation.
 
Ornstein didnt say FDJ was joining Chelsea over United. He clarified that Chelsea is hopeful of agreeing a deal with Barcelona which is same as United.
But now as I understand it, unlike the way United approached this, we said we would only launch a bid of the player himself have a green light that he was both willing to leave Barca and willing to come to Chelsea.

As long as we hadn’t submitted a bid that was important info. But if all of a sudden we have submitted a bid that would be interesting.

Also does that mean Fofana is an impossibility? Or are both options?

This is curious. Surely if Ten Hag is talking regularly to the player he has a better grasp on it than this.
 
Just Barca using their mouthpiece to put pressure on us. He’s ours, boys. You can quote me on that.
 
Got in touch with Romero ab his words (re FDJ) from today — told “nothing is still 100% yet, better to categorize it as a feeling”, so we still gotta wait.
Annnd we are back!
It's still happening lads, he's coming, we have tuned the last corner.... Romero tried to take us out on that last corner but we have slingshoted around him!
Home straight, power down and hold the wheel steady!
 
Gerard Romero said Frenkie to Utd was 90% done about 2 months ago. Surely he's not that reliable?
He's a tool of people in the Barcelona hierarchy, that's for sure. He'll peddle any lies they want, similar to the relationship Duncan Castles has with Jorge Mendes.
 
To walk away early and focus on more realistic targets once we realized it’s not going to be straightforward deal? How does that sound? Our season starts tomorrow and we haven’t strengthened in the area where we desperately needed reinforcements that’s the bottom line.
We’ll have to agree to disagree, because if a fee is agreed and player gives indications he’s open to the move (If he hasn’t then then that’s a different conversation, but couldn’t fathom we’d still be in if he he wasn’t interested), then why would you walk away to sign inferior players?

The season is starting earlier than normal, if this wasn’t the case then the process wouldn’t seem so convoluted.
 


Read… “being pushed by Barca to their mouthpiece”, still get a real feeling these are games designed to make United shit the bed. Possibly both from Barca AND de Jong’s agent to spend up the process, neither of those parties want to blink on the wage stand-off so maybe United will.

See Ronaldo > City for proof of how we shit the bed at such possibilities.
 
Him staying at Barca is a bit embarrassing given the 14 week chase of him.

But him going to Chelsea is utter humiliation on the world stage. Someone needs to be held accountable for this. They won't be.

The manager is the one who wants him. Murtough and Arnold are only doing what he's asking for so if anyone is to blame THIS time it's our new manager. If he doesn't want to come then this is all on ETH, surely?
 
We're like that guy who asked one cute girl if she wanna go to the prom with us. For 3 months we're waiting for her to replied but received none. At least it's blue ticked so we knew she read it. We hold to the thought she still hasn't blocked our number and that's a good sign. That might be a chance our little brain keep saying. Plus everyone knows that we did share that chemist teacher though we're not in the same class . We're keep checking our phone every single day to see if she would reply. But we know if she did reply we would've get the notifications. We're in fact set a special notification for her so we won't missed it.

We've been waiting and waiting for the reply. The prom is coming soon and we're still don't have our date. Some friends been telling us "ya know there's other girls who might interested with you right? They might not be the be dancer ever grace the dancing floor, but they sure can dance pretty good our friends said" We keep telling them "Nah I'm good while keep checking the phone". So we open the Instagram and scroll her profile to see if she might post something. We read the comments and we saw something that make our heart felt something weird. We saw this comment from a guys asking here " Hey if you still don't have a date for the prom, is there any chance you wanna go with me? wink emoji" Lo and behold you see that she "heart" that comment. What's that means? She wanna go to the prom with that guy? But we already asked her right your inner voice says. You feel sick to the stomach. You know that guy. He's the guy that people said has a slightly better hair than you with a new car he just bought with his grandparents trust fund.

So you put down the phone and go shower.
 
Read… “being pushed by Barca to their mouthpiece”, still get a real feeling these are games designed to make United shit the bed. Possibly both from Barca AND de Jong’s agent to spend up the process, neither of those parties want to blink on the wage stand-off so maybe United will.

See Ronaldo > City for proof of how we shit the bed at such possibilities.
To be honest, if it's De Jong or bust, it was about time to shit the bed and pay up. We tried to avoid it, didn't work, so I'd rather we pay up than miss out on Frenkie
 
We're like that guy who asked one cute girl if she wanna go to the prom with us. For 3 months we're waiting for her to replied but received none. At least it's blue ticked so we knew she read it. We hold to the thought she still hasn't blocked our number and that's a good sign. That might be a chance our little brain keep saying. Plus everyone knows that we did share that chemist teacher though we're not in the same class . We're keep checking our phone every single day to see if she would reply. But we know if she did reply we would've get the notifications. We're in fact set a special notification for her so we won't missed it.

We've been waiting and waiting for the reply. The prom is coming soon and we're still don't have our date. Some friends been telling us "ya know there's other girls who might interested with you right? They might not be the be dancer ever grace the dancing floor, but they sure can dance pretty good our friends said" We keep telling them "Nah I'm good while keep checking the phone". So we open the Instagram and scroll her profile to see if she might post something. We read the comments and we saw something that make our heart felt something weird. We saw this comment from a guys asking here " Hey if you still don't have a date for the prom, is there any chance you wanna go with me? wink emoji" Lo and behold you see that she "heart" that comment. What's that means? She wanna go to the prom with that guy? But we already asked her right your inner voice says. You feel sick to the stomach. You know that guy. He's the guy that people said has a slightly better hair than you with a new car he just bought with his grandparents trust fund.

So you put down the phone and go shower.

ETH's press conference less than 24 hours ago was very much "FDJ or Bust", so what are we supposed to do? The bloke doesn't want anyone else.
 
Fecking Romero is gonna get me purged here. I only just got here dude. This is my fourth post ffs!
 
We're like that guy who asked one cute girl if she wanna go to the prom with us. For 3 months we're waiting for her to replied but received none. At least it's blue ticked so we knew she read it. We hold to the thought she still hasn't blocked our number and that's a good sign. That might be a chance our little brain keep saying. Plus everyone knows that we did share that chemist teacher though we're not in the same class . We're keep checking our phone every single day to see if she would reply. But we know if she did reply we would've get the notifications. We're in fact set a special notification for her so we won't missed it.

We've been waiting and waiting for the reply. The prom is coming soon and we're still don't have our date. Some friends been telling us "ya know there's other girls who might interested with you right? They might not be the be dancer ever grace the dancing floor, but they sure can dance pretty good our friends said" We keep telling them "Nah I'm good while keep checking the phone". So we open the Instagram and scroll her profile to see if she might post something. We read the comments and we saw something that make our heart felt something weird. We saw this comment from a guys asking here " Hey if you still don't have a date for the prom, is there any chance you wanna go with me? wink emoji" Lo and behold you see that she "heart" that comment. What's that means? She wanna go to the prom with that guy? But we already asked her right your inner voice says. You feel sick to the stomach. You know that guy. He's the guy that people said has a slightly better hair than you with a new car he just bought with his grandparents trust fund.

So you put down the phone and go shower.

Holy projection Batman.
 
That's disgusting! It's bad enough that they haven't backed him properly in the market, but to simultaneously point the finger at him and absolve themselves of any blame?

They're not just incompetent. They're back stabbing, slimy AND incompetent.

Stop being a drama queen
 
We're like that guy who asked one cute girl if she wanna go to the prom with us. For 3 months we're waiting for her to replied but received none. At least it's blue ticked so we knew she read it. We hold to the thought she still hasn't blocked our number and that's a good sign. That might be a chance our little brain keep saying. Plus everyone knows that we did share that chemist teacher though we're not in the same class . We're keep checking our phone every single day to see if she would reply. But we know if she did reply we would've get the notifications. We're in fact set a special notification for her so we won't missed it.

We've been waiting and waiting for the reply. The prom is coming soon and we're still don't have our date. Some friends been telling us "ya know there's other girls who might interested with you right? They might not be the be dancer ever grace the dancing floor, but they sure can dance pretty good our friends said" We keep telling them "Nah I'm good while keep checking the phone". So we open the Instagram and scroll her profile to see if she might post something. We read the comments and we saw something that make our heart felt something weird. We saw this comment from a guys asking here " Hey if you still don't have a date for the prom, is there any chance you wanna go with me? wink emoji" Lo and behold you see that she "heart" that comment. What's that means? She wanna go to the prom with that guy? But we already asked her right your inner voice says. You feel sick to the stomach. You know that guy. He's the guy that people said has a slightly better hair than you with a new car he just bought with his grandparents trust fund.

So you put down the phone and go shower.

Ffs I'm not arsed reading that. These feckin girlfriend analogies are getting out of hand.
 
Well yeah, but speculation is speculation. With what Romero has said, i'm pretty sure all the Chelsea stuff is being driven by Barca and not by Chelsea.
I'm not denying it might all be totally accurate and real, but given Barcas situation, it seems more likely to me that they're forcing Uniteds hand, and United being in contact with de Jongs camp aren't biting.

Thats my opinion, obviously i have no idea as do none of us here
I agree. This looks like a Barca-driven propoganda to force United to cough up whatever they want including some of that deferred wages.
 
From the outside looking in, ETH seems like a straight dude and I can’t believe that he would be that invested without reassurances. If he has, and Frenkie turned his back on him this late in the day, then not the type of player we want anyway……

Yeah this is my thinking. He knows the boy and must have been told that hanging in there is worth it. As frustrating as this is for our fans, it's Ten Hag's career and this is his big moment. Success or failure at United will determine whether he is one of the top managers or just a good one. This signing is more important to him than any of us. I admire his suggestion that we can simply develop from within, and as excited as I am about Zidane Iqbal, I don't believe it.

The Chelsea links are obviously the last thing we want, but I've not read anything that seems especially concrete and wasn't previously said about him joining us. It makes sense for FDJ and Barca to have two options on the table, that's how these things work, but I've no idea either way and seemingly does nobody else.

I'm hoping Ten Hag's faith is rewarded.

I suppose we will find out very soon.
 
Obviously not? How the hell are you getting that from what I’ve said :lol: :wenger: We’ve got massive holes all over the squad. I didn’t say our business has been great, but we’ve seemingly gone for the targets our manager wants, once again.

You said we've done plenty to back him this summer, yet you wouldn't be happy if the window ended? That's a classic case of cognitive dissonance if I ever saw one :lol:

We knew a massive overhaul of the squad was required this summer, not just getting the targets the manager wanted. Not doing so is not backing the manager properly and no one will convince me otherwise.
 
It would be low if FDJ and his agent have lead Man Utd and ETH along all summer, let alternative targets go elsewhere, to then just go to Chelsea who seemingly only came in last minute on a whim
 
RLC isn’t going to be played in that two man setup. Barkley and Gilmour are not going to be here. Mount and Gallagher don’t play in those spots ideally, and if De Jong did sign I would expect Jorgi to move on.

It doesn’t seem an odd association to me at all. We will be in all competitions in a season with 5 subs, which will now be a tactical aspect.

Say you start a match with De Jong in Midfield , cucu at lcb, and Chilwell at lwb. We are tied or behind going into the 60 th minute. You could shift de Jong back, drop Chilwell, shift Cucu outside and add a Gallagher next to Mount to shift to a more positive footing quickly.

its Pretty intriguing.
I’d be amazed if Chelsea went and spent this kind of money considering their need for a striker - the only rationale is that the new guy in charge is as Gary Nev says, thinks he is playing real life FM - they would need to be recycling quite a few players out in a short space of time.

However the guy is unknown and I’m sure his pride has been dented over Barca nabbing a couple of players from them so maybe looking for a statement?

They may have UCL but I’m not sure how cohesive the current Chelsea project is - I’d like to think that Frenkie will want to go where he knows he will play to his strengths and be really wanted rather than a shiny new toy.

I wouldn’t be surprised that as Chelsea are sniffing around Aubemeyang (who I think would be a fantastic signing for Chelsea) that that is where the FDJ rumours are coming from.

Barca are going to have to offload quite a few players shortly and they seem to have a very bloated squad - with lots of players on high wages that don’t want to take a reduction and leave……sound familiar?
 
Read… “being pushed by Barca to their mouthpiece”, still get a real feeling these are games designed to make United shit the bed. Possibly both from Barca AND de Jong’s agent to spend up the process, neither of those parties want to blink on the wage stand-off so maybe United will.

See Ronaldo > City for proof of how we shit the bed at such possibilities.
Thats exactly how i'm thinking of this. If it was coming from Chelsea, we'd have the bigger outlets picking up on it, such as BBC and the sorts. We've not had a peep out of them, and all the Chelsea journos have just mentioned this as a one liner/small paragraph.
 
We are like a company that needs a qualified technician and has two options, try to hire the one candidate that we like but is in high demand or train our own technician.

Anyone noticed how nothing in that is embarrassing, strange or uncommon?
 
It would be low if FDJ and his agent have lead Man Utd and ETH along all summer, let alternative targets go elsewhere, to then just go to Chelsea who seemingly only came in last minute on a whim

To be fair the only real alternatives are Neves and Tielemans (despite not being similar players) and they are still available anyway.

We won’t sign those either way, De Jong or bust!
 
Something I completely missed this 'saga', what's the word in Holland? How is Dutch media reporting this transfer?
Dutch reliable media isn't reporting anything, apart from United's agreement and FDJ's problem witb Barcelona.

The likes of Voetbalzone are reporting the likes of "Sport" and this Chelsea stuff as well. But nothing new from Dutch media.
 
‘Probably’.

He is guessing, he doesn’t know.
Guesswork.

Wouldn't surprise me if next week we make a "renewed push" to sign de Jong, which includes working with Barca to pay off his wages. Either way, it's more of the same, day after day
 
We are like a company that needs a qualified technician and has two options, try to hire the one candidate that we like but is in high demand or train our own technician.

Anyone noticed how nothing in that is embarrassing, strange or uncommon?

It’s odd. I keep hearing the club is showing no ambition either when chasing down De Jong is the very definition of being ambitious. Maybe overly so in fact given we don’t have CL football.
 
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