How does ffp come into this for Chelsea?
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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I think Eriksen can and will play a little deeper. He seems to have been overlooked and underestimated in my opinion.
I do think EtH will get more from what he has and that will surprise people. The additional of a very comfortable ball playing high line centre back will also really improve our ball retention and progression.
We do need two more players though in my opinion if we want to challenge the top 4. The club and Ten Hag have openly said a forward, preferably a versatile one, and a midfielder, were important to the plans this summer.
I think we will have an active end to the window.
Where has this redknapp news come from? I imagine it's just hearsay anyway, he's not going to be privy to the Chelsea board.
This time, it will be!
They're probably putting pressure on United to pay the deferred wages, because i imagine Barca don't want too or won't. So by Barca saying Chelsea are interested and he'd rather go there, they're pressuring United into making an attempt to cover the wages and probably pay the entire fee as a fixed amount rather than in addons.
Thats my reasoning as for why they'd do that anyway. Regardless of whether a fee is agreed or not, Barca can still try their best to change it to make it more appealing to them
I am not getting this bit of Barca selling future income. If future income is reduced then in future will it not again have impact on salary cap and FFP?
Maybe he's heard something from his Nephew.
Yeah I think we will know more this time next week one way or another.
I think it benefits De Jong and his agent if there is interest from other clubs in terms of negotiating the best possible deal too. They will be quite happy to have Chelsea and Bayern mentioned, even if they have given the green light to United, as it strengthens their position in demanding top money.
Clearly De Jong wants paying either way.
I guess the real treasure was the memes we made along the way.
I can imagine the press conference.
"Barcelona was my dream, but now I'm here, this is a big club and there's a lot to do."
Apparently Redknapp has been told by someone at the very very very top of United (People think Fergie) that de Jong has decided to go to Chelsea and his mind is made, so United definitely won't get him.
If thats the case, then the briefs we've put out saying we're confident are utter BS and we're just staying around for... well... who knows? It makes no sense to me, but i have no idea
Pretty much I guess. They’ve been in the job a few months each, and both of them going would just create more turmoil for the club. It certainly wouldn’t effect what happens on the pitch this season. Seems hyperbolic and knee jerk to be honest.
Well if he's not lying that's curtains then isn't it, but wouldn't be a surprise with how it's gone.
It would make our conduct absolutely staggering if people at the club know he wants to go to Chelsea 
it would be a new level of what the bloody hell.
it would be a new level of what the bloody hell.I think you may have been dreaming
If people at the club knew he wanted to go to Chelsea and we're still briefing that we're confident, then thats a whole new level of BS. Thats incompetence at the highest level haha.It would make our conduct absolutely staggering if people at the club know he wants to go to Chelsea
You'd like to believe that not even United are that stupid, but who knows....
I’m surprised people think Ten Hag would have actually named De Jong at the press conference earlier (without prompting) if he thought the deal was off.
I don't get it either. Surely they are reducing future turnover so they will need to reduce salary total year on year to meet %s?
He didn't name him... The journo asked him about Frenkie, and he said "Frenkie? I didn't know we were interested?" As the journo was speaking like it was officially club reported that we were going after him as our main target (obviously, but it's never stated). So EtH shot it down and said he can't comment on players not here and that he's happy with the squad.
Whats with all the negativity all of a sudden?
You don't think solving our biggest problem position for a decade is our biggest problem?
We could sign prime Bale for the RW if we don't sign a CM we won't finish in the top 4 and will be lucky to hit top 6
I agree.
It can be irritating when speculation is disguised as reporting but we know why they do it, mostly for clicks but in Mitten’s case, he is constantly being asked about this and is trying his best to provide some kind of interesting comment, it’s how he makes his living. He is a good guy, I think, and is pretty measured unless he has something concrete to report. We just have to treat all this stuff - the unverifiable noise - equally until there is something tangible to go on.
Speculation-wise, could it be that young Frenkie did give ETH assurances but is now backtracking to “maybe” so he can ponder his options…?
Courage. Stay focused.
United would have pulled the plug in that case and journos were briefed. I am banking on basic commonsense of people at united. Even Erik today wasn't dismissive. He was asked point blank. Out of dozen possible answers he chose "if we have a news we will bring it".
What? Frozen?!!
What the f*k is wrong with you
Take a step back, and deep breaths. You can't be this raged, emotional outburst of a women on her moons
I'm not negative, i'm just saying it would be absolutely ridiculous if the club knew he wanted to go to Chelsea and we were briefing that we were still confident. I can't see us doing that, we're not THAT incompetent.
We must know something thats keeping us around, either the Chelsea rumours aren't as concrete as the media makes them out to be, or we're still in with a good shout at getting him.
The funnier thing is Chelsea have spent around 140m GBP and they're bidding 70M for Fofana, and somehow they want De Jong.
Harry knows nothing, he's an ex Spurs and QPR manager but he's said what he's said to seem relevant. You think someone is honestly leaking info to a former manager? I really doubt it. Even Gary Neville and Rio don't get fed united transfer news.
Barcelona in their financial position don't care about De Jong at all, they'll sell him to the highest bidder. If United bid 10-15M more than Chelsea they're not going to care what FDJ thinks. They want money to register players. "If Chelsea wanted you that badly they'd have outpaid United"
Ridiculous or embarrassing
?Probably bucket rattling on Las Ramblas to save their wonderful club!
It would make our conduct absolutely staggering if people at the club know he wants to go to Chelsea
I think even if we know that, we will still try in case Chelsea pull out because of financial aspect. It’s quite clear ETH wants him or nobody anyway.
I don’t think it’s happening by any means but how the feck would Harry know?
He did make light of it though and joked. Not sure he’d be like that if he thought it had fallen through given how much he wants him? I wouldn’t.
Ridiculous or embarrassing
Oh Mr NZT you cheeky rascal! How far you try to bait brownie like that!I'm not going to deny it, if the club DID know he wanted to go to Chelsea and still briefed to the contrary saying we were confident and sure he wants to come to us, then that is flat out embarrassing. I really don't think we'd do that though as image wise, that would be majorly damagingRidiculous or embarrassing
I think you may have been dreaming
I am just the ideas man. Bit like Steve Jobs was.
It's up to others to make it reality.
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