Why? Imo it is a very likely scenario
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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What do you say about the Nunez and Sesko links then huh?
By far my most preferred outcome this summer. I said the other day that I think we have the players and potential in youngsters to make CM work for now. The lack of numbers and quality in attack (especially if CR leaves) is THE most worrying for me.
Our upfront is 75m and it seems like Barca wants 80m from Chelsea upfront.
Even if FdJ did ring EtH to say his interested in joining in utd. That wasn't when a CL club were interested. Who is to say that the player changes his mind and then decides to pick CL football over us
Players mind can change like that, can't trust anything really. Let's see
Players mind can change like that, can't trust anything really. Let's see
What makes you think that it's recent? You think that agents are only talking to clubs when you are aware of it? And anyway what makes you think that the conversation hasn't already happened?
Here is the thing Ornstein said nothing outside of Chelsea and Barcelona are in direct contact.
He owes nothing to Utd or EtH for that matter. Chelsea is a better prospect for him and only utd will look foolish(deservedly) chasing him for 3 months.
Their new owner is trying to make a statement he'll pay this money. Everybody knows about FdJ's situation, to start talking to him now this far down the line suggests they're willing to get it sorted.
By the time Chelsea buy FdJ, Cucerella and a top CB (Forfana or Gvardiol) they'll be the top spenders in Europe by some margin.
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JepsYou guys do know how to lose your minds one way or the other.
Well…I remember that saga quite vividly and I also remember telling the German posters who were adamant that sancho wouldn’t be sold that clearly Manchester United knew far more than them and they wouldn’t be so stupid as to continually chase a player not for sale and not move on. Turns out we were. Roll on two years and here we are hoping again that Manchester United aren’t so incompetent as to agree a fee and chase a player for 13 weeks that our manager can call up at any time without any assurances he wants to come…I’m kinda now in the yes we are exactly that incompetent camp.
This is how I’ve thought.
Overall though he’s choosing to go to Chelsea & be a midfielder over coming to us where the manager wants to build the team around him. I get from the situation that he doesn’t want to be dictated to & the clubs agreeing fees etc. was a little presumptuous.
Anyway time to move on, this fiasco has been embarrassing.
But that's a feeling based on nothing. It could be true or not but you have nothing to support it. Sometimes fans should learn to just sit back and accept that they have no clue about a situation.
Why would a player who has yet to negotiate wages tell us anything to harm his leverage. It suits him to have multiple clubs chasing and even if he preferred Chelsea he'd still be out to see how high we'd go with our wage offer.
I have no faith in our negotiators. I think we were almost hoping he would change his mind and waited all summer on a "maybe".
On the contrary, will Chelsea be stupid enough to negotiate a price if they didn't get a green light by FdJ agent??
Just saying, when it was us, everyone kept saying we must have had a green light from the agent/player and thats why we negotiating.
Just saying, when it was us, everyone kept saying we must have had a green light from the agent/player and thats why we negotiating.
Chelsea is a better prospect? Because they have CL football? Really? What if United finish above them next season and get CL football whilst Chelsea get EL?
If United were some firm mid table club with no prospect of CL football then yes i'd understand, but thats not the case
How on earth is Chelsea a "better prospect"?
They're a far smaller club, he'd have greater competition in the CM position and their coach might be gone within a couple of months.
United actually have a coach in place who understands how he plays and won't misuse him as he has been done over the past few years.
And also, it's a matter of honour and principle.
And not sure why you're saying "United" when United are only so committed due to Ten Hag. It would also be Ten Hag looking "foolish" too ergo a snake move from De Jong.
I just think us putting this much effort into it plus Ten Hag would swing it our way. As I say, I might be wrong
Oh yeah it's only my opinion. I have just never seen a deal drag out for 3 months and the whole time we are hearing stories about the player having zero interest in joining, the whole thing has been completely bizarre.
ETH or money
Still no update this morning on Chelsea and De Jong from Holland (Verweij/van der Kraan), Chelsea’s biggest mouthpiece (Matt Law) or Fabrizio Romano.
The only problem is good players want to play in the CL. One of the only ways we can get there is if we improve our scouting - not our strong suit.
Right now, whether we like it or not, United is not a desirable destination. Our stock has fallen so much. Top players don't want to come here. Wages could turn their heads... Double edged sword, that is.
They could just pay him the 17m if they were really keen to get the deal done?
Some take this way too seriously
ho much are Chelsea spending this summer.. ffs
So… how long until United leak a face saving load of bollocks about how they’ve rejected the player
smoke and mirrors
Chelsea is obviously the best choice if I was De Jong.
Option A) Won CL in 2021, CL football this season, 3rd. Signed Sterling, Koulibaly (likely Cucurella, Fofana) - net spend ~£200m.
Option B) Former manager, not in CL, 6th, no trophies for 5 years, net spend of £50m.
Which would you pick...
Option B) Former manager, not in CL, 6th, no trophies for 5 years, net spend of £50m.
Which would you pick...
Chelsea coming in to agree a fee isn’t great news. They were reported to be waiting to see if the player could resolve issues with the club before getting involved.
The fact they are trying to agree a deal now suggests they believe the player would be willing to come now and any issues resolved.
I also don’t know why people keep insisting chelsea don’t need him. Kante and Jorginho are not long term solutions anymore. One more season at best. Chelsea probably weren’t actively looking to improve that area but at the same time players of FDJ calibre don’t become available every summer. If the opportunity comes, sometimes you have to take it. Rather than trying to see who’s available next summer.
The fact they are trying to agree a deal now suggests they believe the player would be willing to come now and any issues resolved.
I also don’t know why people keep insisting chelsea don’t need him. Kante and Jorginho are not long term solutions anymore. One more season at best. Chelsea probably weren’t actively looking to improve that area but at the same time players of FDJ calibre don’t become available every summer. If the opportunity comes, sometimes you have to take it. Rather than trying to see who’s available next summer.
Agree with that! Don't want Neves.
At the moment yes. London, CL football, better squad, proven coach. Not sure what's so difficult to understand there.
Whatever happens I'm sure we'll get the juicy behind the scenes story in the coming months.
At this point I think we all just want it done and dusted as soon as possible. If Chelsea swoop in and sort a deal out in 48 hours at the very least it'll all be over.
At this point I think we all just want it done and dusted as soon as possible. If Chelsea swoop in and sort a deal out in 48 hours at the very least it'll all be over.
You heard that froma source that also told you that he had an interest in joining United. And deals "drag" for 3 months all the time, just this year Tchouaméni's deal started in early february and wasn't close to be finished in May. It took nearly 2 months for Sanches transfer to PSG.
Don't forget about living in London. Some of the reports coming out during the past few months have been how he doesn't fancy Manchester.
Every time I see the tweets from Ornstein at first glance it always looks like the comedian Jon Richardson from 8 out of 10 cats...
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