She's hot and says what we want to hear, that's why
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Because everyone who writes anything on twitter or says anything on any TV channel is always believed. That's what people want to do nowadays
Those blue wankers over at The Shed End are really laying into us. Laughing and saying they are taking FdJ and Ronaldo from us.
Didn't she also talk about how Chelsea are in for him too?
Great barca are signing Ronaldo and keeping FDJ
I want to find that video last season of Tielemans losing the ball and literally walking back towards his goal, hasn’t been good for a season, was average before that.
neves is a poor option unless you are buying a monster dm. Neves/Fred will get absolutely murdered.
neves is a poor option unless you are buying a monster dm. Neves/Fred will get absolutely murdered.
Bit weird to think Ronaldo is going there still isn't it, and also to be excited by the prospect! Fair enough if they believe the De Jong stuff, they're wrong, but bless them.
Frenkie is the right target for us in terms what the squad needs to become more competitive with the top two in the league. There's no doubt about that, and there's also no doubt that the alternatives we might have in mind, such as Neves or Tielemans, would bring us less than what we need although either would still improve us.
The complications however, are vexing. The one that troubles me is the potential impact on the rest of the squad of paying a new player 350-400k/week.
But if we look past that and go straight to the football side of things, adding FdJ would give us a squad that can at least give Chelsea a run for third place and IMO walk away with the EL trophy.
The complications however, are vexing. The one that troubles me is the potential impact on the rest of the squad of paying a new player 350-400k/week.
But if we look past that and go straight to the football side of things, adding FdJ would give us a squad that can at least give Chelsea a run for third place and IMO walk away with the EL trophy.
She's been incredibly reliable throughout her career. Her track record is why her reports have some weight to them. Just because she's in Sky Sports doesn't mean that she becomes unreliable now.
They want Ronaldo??
Fair enough. I don't know much about her and majority of reporting on Sky Sports is complete nonsense and speculation.
I could be wrong, but I believe they are just letting Memphis go for free with the idea that his next club can then give him a higher wage (or a signing bonus) since they won't have to pay Barca a transfer fee. Barca won't actually be paying Memphis anything. Of course it depends on Memphis finding the right offer so that he's then happy to release Barca from their part of the contract.
Not sure i get the hate with Neves. I've always seen him as a very suitable Matic replacement. But a better version of what we bought initially. Hes not immobile, great passing range, good positional awareness and is decent his tackling ability. Of course Frenkie would be a much better signing in ability and adaptability to our team given hes played under Erik previously. But Never would definitely be a good addition. Especially when you consider we have players in Donny, Eriksen and Bruno who can drop deep but operate further forward. Even fred who has looked brilliant in pre season would flourish with Neves next to him given that he himself isn't a proper holding midfielder. I think he'd offer so many options in our midfield without the worry about the defence being exposed.
Close your eyes to only listen to her voice and you'll be thoroughly annoyed.
Why? Surely Neves/Fred is significantly better (both on the ball and defensively) than the Fred/McTominay combo we've mostly used for the last couple of years.
I don’t have to close my eyes, she is intensely aggravating.
She's the senior reporter at sky sports right now. You look at every interview with managers and players - she's the one conducting them 1 on 1. She's always around the club and has always been very reliable and knowledgeable in the past with Liverpool, but is now seemingly working on United. But she obviously has her sources.
I was going to say the same thing, her voice is quite irritating
They are significantly better. Don’t see how anyone can deny that.
I wouldn’t mind Neves as a plan B, but Wolves supposedly want 60-70m
I think I’d prefer United just throw 10-20m into the De Jong deal (signing on fee / up front fee) and get it over the line
I think I’d prefer United just throw 10-20m into the De Jong deal (signing on fee / up front fee) and get it over the line
The biggest problem with Neves is the price wolves would demand for him. He’s going to be FDJ money or more.
Seeing as Wolves know exactly how much we put down for de Jong, i'm sure they'll want their fair share for Neves.
Would prefer Konrad Laimer as a backup, and he'd cost about 1/3 of Neves. In fact I would prefer him in addition to FDJ, but we can't even get one done.
Whilst neves has more quality than mctominay he has no energy, pace or ability to chase down. Mctominay is garbage but Fred/neves will get walked past so easily. It was bad enough with a player who is at least athletic. Neves is like an oil tanker and needs someone to do all the covering and work, Fred is not that player.
Personally I’m not sure of neves as an alternative, think he is great in a counter attacking team, would have been a really good signing for Ole or Mourinho, but a high energy team that needs to move the ball quickly not sure. I haven’t seen that side of his game. Doesn’t mean he can’t do it, but very diffrent kettle of fish to De Jong.
Personally think we would be better of waiting and doing some more in depth scouting for a year if Neves is the only alternative.
Personally think we would be better of waiting and doing some more in depth scouting for a year if Neves is the only alternative.
Just saw a tweet, maybe Romano, saying his lawyers are at Barcelona working out a deal to mutually terminate his contract.
I think we're prepared to get the deal over the line with more money but obviously waiting until the last minute to try and save a few million. The backups could be legit or just us saying, sorry Barca, we tried but your wage issue with Frenkie has broken this deal down, we're moving on. I think we'll end up paying more to get the deal over the line in the end. It's a bluffing game at this point. How bad does Barca want to sign more players and how bad to they need to sell Frenkie to make that happen. The new reports of them wanting to offload Depay and Dest are not making their position look good at the moment.
No. The point is for this team to eventually challenge for the top honours, not improve marginally. Just being better than what we have is not a criteria. We need a midfielder that resists pressure and can receive and progress the ball. Ideally, pair that with a second defense minded midfielder. Neves does none of that good enough to be considered. And certainly not at the price Wolves will ask for him.
We were in for Mane the previous summer, but Southampton straight up denied us. The next one we were in along with Chelsea and Liverpool the next and he went to Liverpool. He himself admitted later on he had other offers on the table. No one is in for Neves particularly due to the value compared to the price tag. He doesn't justify it. For a top club he would be worth a punt as a depth player for 30-40M. Even that is a bit much now that I think about it. That's it. But that is not what we need. We need quality proper.
For the price Neves would cost it would be underwhelming business, that and him not being all that.
How much would he cost?
He's going to Bayern.
People complain about lowering standards and then want to sign Neves for big money
I can't see EtH wanting Neves, he won't suit his style. I think this is similar to the CB situation, Torres/Neves are the club targets Martinez/De Jong were EtHs. Hopefully EtH has his own backup.
Previous quotes from wolves put him at 90m reckon an actual bid of 60-65m would be needed
People have been saying that for months and it hasn't happened. I expect a club like Villa to swoop in at the last moment and pick up a brilliant player.
But then it turned out that literally no one anywhere across Europe actually wants him... so I am quite confident that price would come down.
Why not Neves is better than Edson Alvarez who does the exact same job for Ajax right now
Why they don’t need the money, don’t want to sell, he is on a contract? What need do they have for 45m??
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