I think both could start next to him, but they would have to adapt to a new/other way of playing than they did this season. More defensive discipline and less focussed on also moving towards the opponents box...
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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I think both could start next to him, but they would have to adapt to a new/other way of playing than they did this season. More defensive discipline and less focussed on also moving towards the opponents box...
Was FDJ captain at Ajax? We badly need a leader.
De Ligt
I think Fred is a box to box MF as is Mctominay, they are not disciplined at all. Maybe you could teach Fred something new I don't know about Mctominay he's just not Utd quality.
Think we'll only sign 1 then James Garner and Van De Beek will come back as well
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God I hope this happens.
FDJ is not a natural leader
Woodward isn’t involved for starters……maybe a bit of due diligence and planning has taken place ahead of the ‘shiney new toy’ approach that Woody applied.
Also -ETH knows and trusts him……
Well he’s Dutch so I’m sure he’s fluent in English and communicate with his teammates. His coach is EtH the man who has managed to maximise his abilities in a team unlike LVG and Di Maria. Also, he’s used to similar climate, north European culture etc.
Odds on a deadline day swoop for Fellaini?
I'm sorry, but the constant comparisons to Di Maria is also infuriating.
He might not have planned it, but that doesn't mean he would hate to be at a club like Man United - Ten Hag is a manager he knows and likes and as other have mentioned it's alot easier for a Dutch person to settle in Manchester than a person from South America.
I want him, he could be the catalyst we need.
Barcelona need salary margin to make signings due to the financial fair play of the Spanish league.
What forces Barcelona to sell to FDJ in order to register players is the FFP of the Spanish league. Without that Barcelona would have no problem signing the players they want and without selling De Jong.
Not enough quality. Vdb is a question mark, Garner as well and unproven. We need another DM
We need an actual DM!
Is it just me or does this feel like another Di Maria situation?
not serious, Ten Hag knows what he's doing
not serious, Ten Hag knows what he's doing
It's not just "hear say", Barca are so broke they can't pay salaries. They need to find money from somewhere.
Would you trust the judgement and sense of someone that doesn't need to be convinced?
Saw your white text but searching for 'Di Maria or AdM' yields 8 pages of results from this thread alone, which is quite impressive.
He's definitely not a leader. He does a lot of moaning when things aren't going well, like Bruno.
Barcelona can pay salaries. The issues is that between the loans they took and FFP, they need to lower their wage bill, in order to be a lot more comfortable financially and also because currently they can't register new players.
So do we by the looks of our accounts today.
There is nothing indicating that.
We have a ton of players leaving this summer
Then you should sign De Ligt. He was Ajax' captain and the leader. Arguably he was already the leader at 17 when the played the EL final against United.
Frenkie definitely is not a leader. A great player, but dont expect him to get things going when you're getting bullied. He's anything but that kind of player.
Exactly. Its one of the most stupid points Ive heard. 'If he doesnt want to be here..'. Well of course if he came out and said I reaply dont want to go there and then still signs then I'd understand. But the fact that United may not be his first choice does not mean that he doesnt want to be here.
He's actually showing commitment to a project he signed on for two years ago. That should be a positive, rather than a negative argument. It means he's loyal, has commitment and doesn't want to quit after some backlash. Isn't that exactly what you'd want in a new recruit? It means he'll bring that to you if he does sign for United.
If he really does not want to be at United, he won't sign. If he does sign, it means he's committed to the cause. The fact that he thinks about it is fairly normal. It means he actually cares about his future and the project he signs up for, rather than just sign the next big paycheck that comes by.
The Di Maria comparisons aren’t daft at all. If he doesn’t want to be here and is pushed to us as his only option. If we have a bit of a crap year next year then he could feasibly push for a move if someone attractive to him gives him the option and we could be looking at a loss and square one.
ETH has worked with him before, has certainly spoke to him already, and will speak to him even more before he joins. If he hated the thought of joining and was going to sulk for a year then leave, I'd trust ETH might be in a better place to decide that compared to posters on redcafes transfer forum.
If we get De Jong and are not gonna sign a DM then we should play a three of him, VDB and Fred/McTominay with Bruno on the wing because we need some control of the midfield and can't expect FDJ to do it all on his own.
Another midfielder with him is preferable though.
Another midfielder with him is preferable though.
Yup and also not signing DM could cause need to play Timber there, which will nullify his original purpose.
Looking forward to a day when DM allergy is cured in this club.
We aren't signing Torres and Timber.
Eivind B. Holth says otherwise
If there are 2 signings I think we will make this summer, it's probably these 2.
Sorry for the late reply someone else already did so but basically it says they have a big problem to even register players as most are on contracts and eager to stay.
Basically this bodes very well for us or anyone who wants de jong as he is their only valuable asset with a high selling value as they won't ever sell the likes of pedri and gavi.
If that was our transfer window I'll take it.
Seems reasonable. ETH is our advantage with Timber and FDJ. Mendes is our advantage for Núñez and our interest in Torres is long standing. My guess would be we may buy in other positions to cover sales as they happen. FDJ will be first.
'Prefers not to leave Barcelona'' and 'doesnt want to be here' are not two mutually exclusive things, people need to realize this...
There are so many people in here doing so many assumptions about what Frenkie de Jong wants or doesnt want, and are drawing conclusions out of these unverified/unconfirmed assumptions about wanting or not wanting him.. Unreal how quick people draw conclusions based on unverified unnuanced journalistic statements..
There are so many people in here doing so many assumptions about what Frenkie de Jong wants or doesnt want, and are drawing conclusions out of these unverified/unconfirmed assumptions about wanting or not wanting him.. Unreal how quick people draw conclusions based on unverified unnuanced journalistic statements..
Why not?
It sounds very good, but we would still be missing the all important defensive midfielder.
Still light on the wide areas too. Unless Nunez is to be used as a make shift wide forward.
If Rashford gets back to his best it won't be much of an issue. But right now, I'd say it's unlikely.
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