This Bad Religion song could well be a glimpse into the future, when Darren Fletcher, our manager, still hasn’t walked away from this deal
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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As we all suspected. There is no plan B.
Good news, means they're confident (I hope).
Anyway I expect this will get wrapped up this week
Yeah hopefully
Hopefully it isn't true, you should always have a plan B, heck even a plan C, D and E when dealing with transfers as they can fall through at any moment on either side.
Maybe like Sancho were confident of signing him eventually whether now or in the next window? Would be daft to spend another 40 million on another alternative then
Meh, we've offered €75m euros fixed (+10 in variables) and Barcelona are offering him 7.5m of that. If we instead agree to €85m fixed so they can do the deal with him, who gives a feck really? Either way, he'll be getting his 17m out of United's money, whether it's from the fixed 75m (+10) or fixed 85m fee.
Completely agree. It'll be well worth the wait if the the club is confident we can get him. The alertnatives were just more mediocrity.
If we don't get him...pitchforks out.
High stakes poker - love it.
I mean, the tweet actually mentions the plan B targets
Unless you thought our plan B's were as good as de Jong, in which case, give your head a shake.
I'm talking about holding our ground now and not paying the deferred wages. That's a bit different than negotiating a fee which we believe is fair.
I mean no equivalent plan BI mean, the tweet actually mentions the plan B targets
Unless you thought our plan B's were as good as de Jong, in which case, give your head a shake.
Its more the fact De Jong is like 10x levels above any other plan B would be.
The tweet actually says plan B and them not being good enough.
I dont even think you can name me 1 midfielder who we could sign, anywhere near his quality for the price.
There is no equivalent plan B.
Bernardo Silva, Jude Bellingham, Declan Rice, etc. Don’t tell me we can’t sign them, because you don’t know that.
Good to see the English journos starting to get back on this. Been too quiet for too long on this side, its been bumbling along on the back of Spanish reports for a while.
Silva & Bellingham are completely different players to De Jong, and play different roles. Rice would cost more than him and isn't as good.
I was talking about if we were mugs or not
Bernardo can't be used in the same role.
Bellginham and Rice would both be £150m this season and neither are at De Jong's level yet, who we can get for half the price.
I'm sure we'll be in for Bellingham when it's his time to move.
I mean, the tweet actually mentions the plan B targets
Unless you thought our plan B's were as good as de Jong, in which case, give your head a shake.
The plan B, C or Z would be better than playing McFred on a weekly basis. The plan B may not be better than De Jong but the club acting like there is no other option in world football is ridiculous. I would rather go for plan B if the club are willing to make any contribution to the deferred wages, above the agreed fee. Even an indebted Barcelona have played us like mugs.
Yes im sure Bernardo Silva would be available to us.
Rice is nowhere near as good.So I didn't then, cool
I don't understand the whole no 'plan B' thing. We need another midfielder regardless of FDJ joining.
It's not as if McFred is the greatest midfield 2 in the world and if one of them gets injured we'll be starting academy players.
It's not as if McFred is the greatest midfield 2 in the world and if one of them gets injured we'll be starting academy players.
The good english journos go quiet because we agreed the deal with Barca, our end of this deal is done. This entire saga is FDJ-Barca, we are just waiting to see the outcome.
I think that paying his salary arrears would be silly
But there are plan B’s, they’re just nowhere near Frenkie’s level. So what’s the point in backing out with a month to go and getting a far inferior player?
That thought process only works if you're certain we won't get De Jong. As squnadering £60m on Neves fimrly puts the nail in the coffin for the De Jong transfers.
It's the same thought process a child uses when you go into a shop to buy a lego set they've been after for ages - to find it out of stock. The sensible thing is to save their money until it's available again. The child obviously wants to buy anything with the £50 they've been given, so they waste it on megablocks because they haven't got megablocks and it's sort of like lego.
We all know megablocks is far inferior to lego, and that silly child has wasted their money through impatience.
I don't think we are, we've agreed a fee. Barcelona need to sort out the salary he believes he's owed. If they want to use part of the fee we've agreed to do that - that's on Barcelona.
Adressing it means signing one or two preferably before pre season to get them some time to play together. Not spending 80% of window chasing what seems an unatainable target. Whole De Jong thing is amateur stuff. If they do not get him which seems the case then we go into a new season with that same rubbish CM lineup because they had no back up options to Frenkie....
There is nobody in the market at the level near of Frenkie de Jong to play in the same role in this system we want to play - So no plan B for Frenkie.
If Frenkie deal doesn't come through we look at someone in different mold and use our current squad players to mold someone to play the "Frenkie" role in our tactical system.
Easy to understand.
ffs, the club have plan B's... just confirmed in that fecking tweet.
Also confirmed is that the club see de Jong as absolutely miles better than the plan B's, very unsurprisingly. Therefore the club and manager want to proceed with de Jong.
And paying 10m for de Jong or spending 50m on the next Fred... no thanks.
yeah exactly, Luckhurst is saying there are obviously other people, but if you're going to deadline day for your first option, you aren't going to buy a clearly inferior "B" option on deadline day for the sake of it....it's literally what we have criticised the club doing for years
For the second part, we need to do that anyway. We do need backups, Frenkie won’t be available for every game, particularly this season.
We've already agreed 75m fixed with them, whatever happens, where do you think his arrears money is coming from?
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