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Frenkie to United?

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We could really do with LVG giving it the big licks about him not playing in the national team if hes not starting right about now huh
 
FCBarcelona said:
it is astonishing that you keep saying that barça cannot pay players.

barça can pay its bills. barça has always done that. if barça couldn't, barça would be relegated. revenues are increasing after covid and the wage bill has reduced considerabilly. we are already close to 400M in wage bills (560 of last year included some deferral and 1 time payments). it will take 1 or 2 extra years to be 100% free of toxic contracts.

barça had almost 1000M revenues before pandemic (i think it topped to 990). united debt is 600, not 400. barça debt will be closer to 1bn (if not less) by next year. it was 1.35bn but included some provisions that will not be paid (among other things).




of course barça can use its assets as collateral. barça can even sell them!

barça last loan (short to long term loan) with goldman sachs (last year) was closed at 1.98% (pretty decent rate from my point of view, dont you think?) and it included 90% of laliga tv revenues as collateral. that is why the "levers" were done in 2 stages of negotiations. first 10% (without gs), second 15 (including rights used as collateral with gs, that is why barça paid 100M to GS to pay part of the loan)

barça debt is, worst case, doubling united (united debt is almost 600M euros).

only a small part of the money from the levers has gone to players. the net spending in players is way lower than this forum thinks.

barça has sold 5% of the current revenues, that % will lower in the future. not good, but far from catastrophic.



explanations are, best case, incomplete.
barça fans prepared a censure motion the former president (who should be in jail) and we have a new board.
the situation has MASSIVELY improved in the last year.



spanish ffp has been longer than that. it was covid (radical decrease of revenues) + criminal structure wages bartomeu put in placed combined what put barça near collapse (it is not there anymore).
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Keep fighting the good cause, man. Don't let these peasants discourage you.
 
I really want someone to get that VeggieTales - I Love My Duck ending minute and have Larry the Cucumber replaced with Laporte and all the ducks replaced with his various players. I feel like there's potential there.

EDIT: Could also work with replacing the ducks with levers.
 
I think 2 weeks after we have signed him for £300k pw we should tell him he needs to cut his wage to help the club just to see his face :)
 
FCBarcelona said:
last message of the day as i only have 5 per day



good news is that you accept that you have 0 knowledge about barça. that's a beginning. you just said that barça couldnt use collateral and that is why barça loan rates are sky high. well, both things are false. now, instead of answering to my response to you, you are talking about a 100 different things. it says something about.

club says that it wants to have all the squad in the salary pyramid. period. the disinformation you can find here is minimum at the same level.

i have never said that "everything is rosy". laporta has never said that either. it is actually the opposite, laporta has said a million times that he doesnt like the "levers", but it just need to be done for the future of the club. it is mindblowing that you follow every single phrase of laporta, barça and media and you are still following the narrative that the club is selling this like a genius movement. it is not actually mindblowing, it is just hate and follow the narrative you want to follow. that's all.

by the way, i dont know why laporta has to explain YOU, a united fan, anything. if something, he has to inform barça fans.

the simple truth is that barça has sold 5% of the current revenues (and the % will decrease) and that's all. barça can live confortably with 5% less money for some time.
truth is that the most part of the money has gone to pay debt that comes with an interest too but you don't take that into the equation. barely 100M has been used to buy players from the over 500M barça has received from levers.
barça does not have money today for that, but it can have it in 5 years. the wage bill has already been reduce dramatically and will be 100% healthy in 2 years tops.
simple truth is that this decision is more conservative that just paying the debt with loans. if situation improves barça pays more money, if situation worsens barça pays less money. i dont know how revenue dependent payments is more risky than paying same money no matter what.

but time will tell, and you can find a thread from a decade ago stating basically the same... that barça was doomed.

barça situation is MASSIVELY BETTER than 1 year ago, you like it or not. that is different from being perfect, but you just don't (want to) understand that there are tones between black and white.

pd: im going to give you credit for spelling laporta correctly... a lot of people here keeps pushing for "laporte" :lol:



100% false, but if you are going to be happier thinking that...



another one with the same story... barça pays and has always paid its players. if barça does not pay, barça gets relegated. simple as that.



apparently you don't know how to read, as nobody ever said that thing.
hilarious to read about "cults" from chelski fans... hahahahahaha.
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This is the biggest cope I've read in this forum. Congratulations, what an achievement.
 
AndySmith1990 said:
Whatever the outcome I sincerely hope we never deal with Barca again
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I don’t ever wanna deal with them again either. They don’t deserve a single penny from us unless of course it’s Fati, Pedri or Dembele, then I’m happy for us to do business. :nervous:
 
Why would City let Bernardo Silva leave?

They’ve already lost Sterling and Jesus - and Silva is one of their best players.
 
Raiden Shogun said:
I notice a pattern here.

Anything bad the media/journalists write about Barca, no matter how ridiculous = gospel truth, Barca are pure evil.
Anything negative about a potential Frenkie deal on United's side = made up bullshit, obviously.
Anything positive about a Frenkie deal = See! We told you! He's coming.

There is no point trying to explain the workings at Barca, people already have a preconceived notion and anything the club say or do is 'propaganda' or 'disinformation'. Utterly clueless.

Echo chamber.
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By now most of us are experts about the financials at Barça. There are vids and explanations in this thread about everything like wage structures, amortization, ffp rules to debt structure.

Basically FC Batshitlona is fecking itself for the next 25 years.

We ignore anything posted by sport and other Barcelona sources because it is pure bsand changes every day.

Secondly anything about the FdJ transfer not happening is believed by a whole bunch of pissers and moaners on this forum. Even if it is from shiit sources.

Now, about your club. They are an utter embarrassment. Frenkie loved the club and deferred most of his salary for two years to help them survive.

Now they are trying to force him out without settling the deferred wages, or have him take a 50% paycut, while buying players left and right they can‘t afford.

You should be embarrassed you are still supporting the goatfecker arseholes. I really hope the ffp hammer will come down hard.
 
Would love to be a fly on the wall when Laporta phones Chelsea to tell them that Frenkie is now available
 
Cantonalegod said:
In Spain you have 3 teams guaranteed a Champions league place.

In England it's 2 guaranteed at the moment, and a bun fight between 4 for the other two spots.

Barca, Real Madrid, and Atlético are shoe ins every year.

For the last 10 years the same top 3.

Non competitive league!
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Obviously, only the seventh-placed team reached the semi-finals of the Champions League. And the champion must be from Jupiter.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
ha ha, for sure.

I want them to sell half the club next and spend it all this Summer, get the whole Messi/Neymar crew back together. The crazy bastards.
Win the lot for 4 years and go bankrupt in a fecking blaze of beautiful glory.
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Isn't that what they've been doing since they broke up MSN?

Ten years ago Barca and Messiless Barca (Spain) were on top of the world and going about the business of knocking Real off their perch.

Nobody would have imagined Madrid would then go and win another 5 CLs. Just like that, inc three on the trot.

Of course they've lost the plot, who wouldn't?
 
MIC_FIN said:
Blah blah blah blah fecking blah..

Worse than boris johnson this saga.

Come to united, don't come to united.
Pay me the fecking money, don't pay me the money.
Stay at barca, but don't stay at barca.
Goto jail, pass go don't collect your fecking deferred wages.
Collect the future wife, eat the future wife.
Buy a home, sell the fecking home.
Don't like europa league, feck europa league
Rainy days in Manchester? Feck Stoke.

He's not said a word.. Don't say a fecking thing Frenkie you mad cnut. Play in midfield, but don't play in midfield. Play in defence, but only if you have to.
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Are you okay mate?
 
Gandalf said:
Pep has a policy of letting players go if they want to leave but he also said several weeks ago that if Barca were interested they needed to move quickly so he would have time to sign a replacement. This close to the start of the season City will be very reluctant to sell.
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This won't end well.
 
This is the same bloke who’s said he won’t leave about 3 weeks ago. This is done.
 
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