The transfer value only matters it you're ever going to be able to sell the player, that becomes pretty tough when the player won't move regardless of how badly you treat him. It would be kind of fun to see how how much Barca can embarrass him before he finally agreed to move.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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There's still a few twists and turns left in this saga I feel it
Would love some twists and turns. So far it's been a long straight road of nothingness
There's still a few twists and turns left in this saga I feel it
I just find the idea that Murtough got hired by Woodward but wasn’t actually doing the job until Woodward left as worrying and problematic as he’s been in the role for over a year and yet is 100% reliant on the manager to name targets.
I mean After all the awful decisions Woodward made the idea that we should trust his opinion when it comes to Murtough is worrying enough, but add to that the idea Woodward hired him to basically be nothing but a puppet or a DOF with no real power even more troublesome, it sort of just implies he got the job because he would course the least trouble to Woodward. I just don’t think there is a particularly positive way of looking at the Murtough situation at the mo. Maybe he will come good, buts everything about the way we have got to this point is troublesome.
Yeah, fair point about getting off track.
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Agreed.
They can only embarrass him till transfer deadline day unfortunately for them. Or rather they can only do it till then in the hope he will leave. After that they are stuck with an expensive toxic mess till January at least. Still wouldn't be the first time that happened to a club either.
I dont get why Fabrizio's quotes keep getting posted when he has not given any update.
He is literally saying the same thing he did 2/3 weeks ago. There is no change.
De Jong wants to stay at Barca and will fight for it.
He is literally saying the same thing he did 2/3 weeks ago. There is no change.
De Jong wants to stay at Barca and will fight for it.
Well hell. I was 95% out, but this changes things somewhat. I am honestly weary from the whole thing but I'll be one happy camper if and when he signs!
This is the business end of the saga. Only for the hardcore.
Barca will eventually pay him his dues as it's the cheaper option and he'll be off to his factory job up north with flat cap in hand.
Barca will eventually pay him his dues as it's the cheaper option and he'll be off to his factory job up north with flat cap in hand.
This saga has been reduced to the usual click merchants rehashing nothing stories. No reliable journalist has had an update in weeks.
It seems to me that moving to United would involve a pay cut, unless you're willing to pay him 500k per week.
You know exactly why even though it is ridiculous. All the morons on Twitter lap it up and get him more clicks.
This + the update that Barca were making an offer to the player and meeting again today is positive in my opinion.
Especially following the CB comments from Xavi meeting yesterday.
He agrees a pay off from Barca and moves
FDJ doesn’t want to leave or take a paycut. Mendes will try again offering Ronaldo to big clubs in the coming weeks. It’s difficult to get Antony as Ajax don’t want to sell and Manchester United don’t want to pay 80m euros. Oh and THINGS ARE HAPPENING!! Rinse. Repeat.
Thats a very positive update. I'm convinced that we get him if he doesn't reduce his wages
I agree, but where does that leave us? Are we actually just sitting waiting on de Jong? Are we being proactive in any way? Looking at alternatives? The season starts in less than 2 weeks and we're sat there waiting for de Jong and Barca to sort their shit out. Not an ideal start to the season.
How was the meeting positive for us? He came out smiling
Sorry I wasn't implying he was a DOF for a decade, I was saying he has been at the club a decade and DOF for over a year. From what I understand he has hand in pretty much every pot at united over the decade he has been at united. I believe there were reports of him being involved in decision-making the summer we signed Wan-Bissaka and Maguire but happy to be proved wrong.
As far as I'm aware what power Murtough had when he took over compared to now has not been confirmed only speculated. I mean saying he has full autonomy now seems a bit odd, with Ten Hag clearly picking the targets and Arnold travelling with Ten Hag to negotiate deals. Truth is we have no idea, it's just guesswork.
It seemed a bit more than that last night! But no bother, glad to have you along!
Smiling? What the feck? That shouldn't be allowed. Do. Not. Want.
No. We will match his regular wage (about 250k) and it is upon Barcelona to make good the money he deferred.
If I'm 100% honest with myself, I'm still out, but he's such a good player I can't help but get back on the rollercoaster when some positive news comes out.
But was it a full on smile or a wry smile?
Hey man, it’s a fun ride if nothing else!
Can someone who is an expert in Spanish contractual law explain to me how this works? This is very different from how contracts work where I am from.
Yup I don't want to give him as much of a free pass as some around here but happy to withhold judgement until end of the season.
Esp. because one of the things he did work on before becoming DOF was player recruitment. Some people say that's only the youth side that won the FA cup but I don't buy that. I think everyone in the club (even during the Woody days) recognized that they got the player recruitment horribly wrong and were trying to fix it.
Woody also had comments saying something along the lines of "I didn't previously know who to trust recruitment wise but I do now". I assume he was speaking either about either Murtough or Bout.
Anyway, we know where the buck stops now. No more excuses.
It's what Barca want. There's zero necessity to agree to that for De Jong
They're just using their brand to pressure him. Do you want to play for Barca? Sign a new contract with a pay reduction. I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can do to force him to sign the thing under Spanish law.
I learned a new word today. ‘What a bunch of palanques Laporta and Barca are’.
it rhymes with wankers.
it rhymes with wankers.
To fit into their new structure, he needs to drop 50% wages. That's their proposal to him.
Nothing legal about it. Legally, he could stay at Barca on the same wage
With Kounde likely to join, De Jong’s CB role is under serious threat.
Inscrutable like the Mona Lisa.
I think that’s the idea.
RB looks pretty weak.
Maybe Barcelona is just using us to get him t accept those terms.
They could do with a third goalie as cover
Reserve Ballboy?
What like if you don’t accept being a bench player and being paid 50% less for the honour we’ll send you to Manchester? Makes sense.
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