Frenkie De Jong - Part 3?

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davidmichael said:
Right now you’re correct Mainoo isn’t De Jong but he’s also 18 years old and dominating midfield in games against established Premier League players or at the very least holding his own against some of the best in Europe.

Mainoo has the ability to turn defence into attack, brings a calmness and composure, can dribble, can score, can pass short range and long range, press resistant, has pace and has a maturity of someone 10 years older than he is and right now the only things he may struggle with is his stamina and strength which will both come.

Whilst De Jong can do all of those things he’d cost well over £100 million, would want over £300K a week, would have to settle, his missus rules him, they LOVE Barcelona as a city and as a club and hasn’t looked great this season at all.

All of the best attributes De Jong has I think Mainoo will also have and Mainoo also looks to be a threat further forward as well, right now De Jong is obviously the better player but in 2-3 years I don’t think that’ll be the case so De Jong shouldn’t even be on our radar unless we’re planning on selling Fernandes as there’s zero way in the world we’d go with a Mainoo-De Jong-Fernandes midfield.
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I agree completely, and my opinion comes with the understanding that De Jong would be replacing Mainoo in the first eleven.

I don't think we want to go into next season planning on having an 18/19 year old be the assumed starting #8 for 50+ matches. It was never the ideal scenario for him to be a regular starter this season, and the only reason he has become one is because our options at the position are so lackluster.

In a perfect, unrealistic world, we could sign De Jong and Camavinga, who seems like he's going to be the odd man out at Madrid, and have a midfield three of Camavinga, De Jong, and Bruno.
 
On the contrary, I think de Jong would help Mainoo massively. Any young player should watch the way de Jong moves with the ball, and the way he positions his body when shielding it from opposition players and when he does his turns. Mainoo seeing that up close in training and when potentially playing together in games can only be beneficial.
 
VP89 said:
We are too structured defensively, often too conservative with midfield sat deep. FdJ will help expand us and be more open.
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We are the opposite, we absolutely leave our defence exposed continuously.
 
Plant0x84 said:
We will, but I think sir Jim is looking to redefine what is considered a ‘blockbuster signing’. I don’t think we will be in the market for over-the -hill galacticos any longer.
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Agreed. Under Sir Alex, our blockbuster signings could be classified as the top rated proven players (Berbatov, Veron, RVP) or the top bracket of exciting young talents (Ronaldo, Rooney, Rio). I hope that under this new regime, it's the latter for the next few years until we have a stable enough team which is just missing that one luxury signing to propel us further.
 
This is a non-starter. We will not make any big money signings for at least the next 4-5 years. New stadium coming up, history of being burnt on big money deals and new management will be cautious.
 
Dannn411 said:
This is a non-starter. We will not make any big money signings for at least the next 4-5 years. New stadium coming up, history of being burnt on big money deals and new management will be cautious.
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I highly doubt it'll be 4-5 years. One or two makes sense, maybe even three, but I can't see it being more than that. By that point we should (at least in theory) have improved our squad depth and quality enough that we can then start being more picky and targeting one or two big signings a season if the right player is there.
 
With Mainoo coming up, I am not really keen on him anymore. Invest in a solid DM who can cover lot of spaces and sign some upcoming cheap options .
 
Watched him last night and just don’t think he would be suited to the pace of the EPL.

Think he would be ‘roughed up’ easily.
 
golden_blunder said:
Agreed. I think Mainoo can be as good if not better, given time, patience, support and luck injury wise.
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I think it's still a bit early in his career to see what his ceiling is but he's definitely got the tools. I think the one thing he doesn't quite have is De Jong's ability to drive with the ball from deep into space and a fairly good engine to cover long distances is what adds that extra flavor to his play. Mainoo might develop that (I hope he does) but he could also not. I'd actually love to see De Jong and Mainoo together with a more defensive midfielder.
 
flameinthesun said:
I think it's still a bit early in his career to see what his ceiling is but he's definitely got the tools. I think the one thing he doesn't quite have is De Jong's ability to drive with the ball from deep into space and a fairly good engine to cover long distances is what adds that extra flavor to his play. Mainoo might develop that (I hope he does) but he could also not. I'd actually love to see De Jong and Mainoo together with a more defensive midfielder.
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That would be a tasty dish alright
 
Gruesome injury last night.

I think ETH's inevitable departure has cooled the jets on any FDJ rumours this summer, but that injury firmly puts it to bed I would say.
 
His game against PSG highlighted exactly why he's one of my favourite players. The way he kept possession with his feints and turns whilst down to 10 men was lovely to watch.

Erics_Collar said:
Gruesome injury last night.

I think ETH's inevitable departure has cooled the jets on any FDJ rumours this summer, but that injury firmly puts it to bed I would say.
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It'd be disappointing if he missed the Euros. He's always fantastic to watch for Holland especially.
 
Yagami said:
His game against PSG highlighted exactly why he's one of my favourite players. The way he kept possession with his feints and turns whilst down to 10 men was lovely to watch.


It'd be disappointing if he missed the Euros. He's always fantastic to watch for Holland especially.
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2 months? He’s not going to make that. His foot turned the complete opposite direction.
 
Yagami said:
Argh, I don't want to look! I had no idea what injury it was. Was it like the Eduardo and Aaron Ramsey injuries?
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I can’t remember them without looking them up.. which I don’t want to do.

it looks bad enough to know that the euros is out of reach
 
golden_blunder said:
I can’t remember them without looking them up.. which I don’t want to do.

it looks bad enough to know that the euros is out of reach
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That's a shame. Those injuries are horrific. The last one I remember was Gomes (Everton) getting caught by Son.

Just reading about it and apparently the Madrid fans applauded him off the pitch. That in and of itself tells me how bad it was.
 
Erics_Collar said:
Gruesome injury last night.

I think ETH's inevitable departure has cooled the jets on any FDJ rumours this summer, but that injury firmly puts it to bed I would say.
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If ETH is still here, as we have seen with Antony, not having a right foot (even literally) isn’t necessarily a deal breaker! :wenger:
Wish him a speedy recovery however.
 
Erics_Collar said:
Gruesome injury last night.

I think ETH's inevitable departure has cooled the jets on any FDJ rumours this summer, but that injury firmly puts it to bed I would say.
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There were some random rumors about Byern showing interest yesterday...
 
Suffers a horrible injury and Barca brief the very next day. They really are an incredibly scummy club.
 
Stadjer said:
Dutch media reported that he will be out for 5/6 weeks but that making the Euros is still very much possible.
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Wasn't it confirmed that he has a sprained ankle? Not a horror injury by any means.

Anyway, I think the ship has sailed. He has regressed and probably will find it difficult adapting to the PL. Not to mention the fee and wages.
 
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