They've spent the last 4 hours trying to convince him to get into the Fred the Red mascot costume for the transfer announcement video
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They've spent the last 4 hours trying to convince him to get into the Fred the Red mascot costume for the transfer announcement video
How much have you actually watched of them? From your posts it seems like you've been Fred's biggest fan for years and years.
I have no idea. I have barely watched them. I was responding to the implication about fair price. If 52m is fair for Fred, and 57m or something is fair for Keita, then it follows that Keita is slightly better.
I thought he had a €50m release clause or something.
The New York stock exchange opened some time ago, getting worried about this actually going through.
Fred. False rumours, expect disappointment.
Fred. False rumours, expect disappointment.
The one about Footballers crying. Nah that was shite, this one is very good, a few posts above if you follow Sult's post.
It's hard to tell who's taking the piss and who's just a feckwit these days.
So go ahead and assume everyone is a feckwit. That is easier
Isn't that thread done yet? It should be renamed to Alpha-males or something or that sort
We are buying Neymar?
What is the New York Stock Exchange link to transfers that people always go on about? I've never understood it. I don't believe that United need to inform the stock exchange before announcing any new signings, it just seems nonsensical when only 10% of united is floated anyway so the investors don't have any power.
We do need a LW.
I think this will go through, but god if it doesn't, this forum will be lit for a few hours 
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)Oh I do.
It's complete nonsense that's been proven to be nonsense a thousand times but people still bring it up, either because they still believe it or because they're taking the piss, but it's not always clear which.
I am underwhelmed by this transfer, but hopefully I am wrong.
Along with the "shirt sales will make up for the transfer money" thing, this is an all time hit in any transfer saga
This one:
Sorry but I disagree with this. The golden rule of football when it comes to transitions, is that the ball can always move faster than a player. Meaning that you don’t have to be fleet of foot to be excellent in the transition. You just have to use the ball well. Obviously in forward positions you need pace to capitalise on this to a certain degree. During some of our finest transition years we had players like Carrick, and Cantona at the heart of our teams. Neither being particular fast. Especially Carrick. But their brains and passing made the transition flow.
In fact United had Carrick and Scholes through the middle, neither of whom are fast. But they used the ball quickly when the opportunity presented itself.
I think the much bigger issue is the movement of our front players. Fergie’s teams always stretched the pitch, made runs in behind and were typified by clever fluid movement of the front players. Mourinho’s United has been largely absent width and dynamic movement. Often Matic will get his head up and find both wide forwards have come deep to get the ball, and one will have to carry it up field, allowing teams time to regroup. That destroys the transition IMO.
My favourite examples of brilliant transitions were with Rooney and Ronaldo. They were both always aware of where the other was, and constantly making runs and space for each other. When Carrick or Scholes picked up the ball in a counterattacking situation, you knew he had options spreading and exploding in front of him. So he had 2 or 3 possible outlets. Now we have Sanchez or Mata standing around the center circle. Lukaku, and Rashford when he plays, are the only ones who ever go in behind. Lingard sometimes.
The other thing missing is synchronicity. I remember having Scholes and Keane in midfield - I’ll pause while you wipe the drool from your chin - and you could genuinely say that they didn’t have clearly defined roles such as DM and AM. Scholes was naturally more creative, and Keane naturally more energetic, but they had this innate understanding that “if you go up, I stay back” and vice versa. That typifies a well functioning unit. The same could be said for Rooney and Ronaldo, or Yorke and Cole. If one came deep, the other made the run. Naturally in those scenarios Yorke and Rooney came deep more often, due to their skill sets, but the innate synchronicity was still there.
We lack that all over the field, especially in midfield. And that makes it too predictable. I think the lack of dynamic movement from Matic is the last in a long list of transition problems, because his use of the ball when options are open, is generally fast and excellent.
What’s perplexing about all of this, is that earlier in his career, Mourinho was famous for emphasising the importance of the transitional phase, I.e. a team’s success is dependent on their ability to turn defense into attack as quickly as possible, and attack back into defense equally as fast. He still excels in regrouping the defensive shape better than any other coach, maybe Simeone aside, in the world IMO. But his attacking transitions look disconnected these days. Maybe he is being out coached, and out dated, but really these are time tested and simple principles. I think the truth is that he’s become increasingly conservative as a coach and just doesn’t do the work on the training ground required to build a cohesive counter attacking unit. Like all of all I am wondering if the addition of McKenna will help.
Finally, it explains Jose’s obsession with multi talented players. A player like Martial, who can be excellent in the attacking transition, doesn’t do the reverse transition anywhere near as well. Willian, in contrast does. It’s also why he loves Lingard. He has that balance to transition both ways very diligently. The problem for us, is that the type of player who is excellent at defensive transitions, is rarely the best at attacking ones.
We’ll have to see what this summer’s recruitment brings.
Have we heard from Craig Norwood yet?
Says he's passed his medical
It’s only crazy people who actually think it has any bearing.
Have you been in a NHS hospital lately? 4 hours to get seen is quick.
Yes I saw the white text and I know that we do our medicals in house.
"The English club will pay about 55 million euros ($ 240 million) to Shakhtar Donetsk. In the first direct contact, Fred and his businessmen were impressed by United's structure and attention."
The feckwits are taking the piss.
People only say it now to wind up the people who bite every time it is brought up. I'm sure some people bite on purpose also.
Here he comes.
Another 24 hours of muppetry!
Norwood
Great signing.
Im sure Freddos used to be cheaper when I was a kid....
So €55m/£48m from the horse's mouth. Let's see how much the press inflate these fees now.
Here he comes.
Has he ever just flat out told us about player medicals that haven't even happened yet before? Usually we just get a sly Twitter follow off him before the player is ready to be announced.
Must love his position as Tier 0 leader
It's actually about 1.7 billion Hryvnia.
Has he ever just flat out told us about player medicals that haven't even happened yet before? Usually we just get a sly Twitter follow off him before the player is ready to be announced.
Must love his position as Tier 0 leader
He's a legend.
Still relaxed. If we see Sandro and Alderweireld, I'm gonna blow.
Hopefully we get the announcement today and Dalot's tomorrow
Norwood
Love how all the journos dig deep for exclusive news amidst all the rumours and secrecy, then Norwood just taps it in to an open net at the end and takes all the glory.
Love how all the journos dig deep for exclusive news amidst all the rumours and secrecy, then Norwood just taps it in to an open net at the end and takes all the glory.
The Norwood
Has he ever just flat out told us about player medicals that haven't even happened yet before? Usually we just get a sly Twitter follow off him before the player is ready to be announced.
Must love his position as Tier 0 leader
Hasn't happened.
We are getting close to
/fred
/fred
Here he comes.
Pics or it didn’t happen
I've come to realise that nearly all my hopes for next season are foolishly banked on this. While we need to upgrade some players, I don't see our general attacking play becoming substantially more coherent without a good deal more focus on it during training. The simple fact is that a group of players well-drilled in attacking moves will usually execute those moves much more quickly and proficiently than a group of players having to improvise on the fly together.
Back on topic though, excited to see what Fred brings. Apart from his engine and running, some of those long passes in his compilation video looked tasty.
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