Fred is one of the most underrated players in England

[bugmat]

Because he has the passing ability of a league 1 player

This has aged well

 

[bugmat]

I like Fred, but one assist doesn't suddenly make him a great passer mate. He's certainly limited in that area.

He should have had several more. I recall one ball ealry int eh season with his left, over the top dink into space for Rashford to beat the keeper..he shot straight at him.

Fred is a very good passer - the few times he may pass a ball straight out of play is because he's passing into space (which progresses play) and the target hasn't read the ball and is stood still (which doesn't move us forward). Happens to Bruno plenty too. What Fred isn't is a great shooter - it's his one big flaw he needs to stay back in training to work on. Not free kicks (he has been ok whenever he takes dead balls for us up to Bruno;s arrival), just shooting.

Fred's never going to be Carrick levels in passing, but the same can be said of 95% of PL midfielders.

 

[Beachryan]

I would describe Fred's passing as erratic. Occasionally as on Thursday it's bloody perfect. Earlier that same match he misplaced two 10 yard passes to Scott, under no pressure.

He's just wildly inconsistent in his passing, which isn't great for a central player.

He makes up for a lot of it through sheer energy and determination, which is great.

 

[paulscholes18]

This has aged well

You spoke too soon

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

He had a shot on target. Let’s bring out the stats post match...

 

[Ali Dia]

Who else in midfield is helping him control it? Matic is invisible as always.

 

[Josh 76]

He had a shot on target. Let’s bring out the stats post match...

I nearly fell out of my seat.

 

[NinjaFletch]

Fred's ability to receive the ball and pass it on regularly and reliably to better players is absolutely shocking. It's lower half of the Premiership stuff and, once again, when he's playing in a game where he isn't needed to just run around a lot he looks like an unbelievably limited player.

 

[Bojan11]

@GifLord please post a gif of the pass he made around the 58 minute mark, where he just kicks it out of play under no pressure.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

He had a shot on target. Let’s bring out the stats post match...

He made up for that though, set the record straight if you like.
It’s that bad you’d swear he practices it, like some sort of in-joke.

 

[Gehrman]

Could someone make a video of Fred's contributions this match?

 

[ivaldo]

@GifLord please post a gif of the pass he made around the 58 minute mark, where he just kicks it out of play under no pressure.

Why?

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Could someone make a video of Fred's contributions this match?

let’s not. Save it for Halloween.

 

[arnie_ni]

This has aged well

Very well indeed

 

[arnie_ni]

Who else in midfield is helping him control it? Matic is invisible as always.

Matic was my motm

 

[laughtersassassin]

Surely the word in the title should be changed to overrated?

 

[arnie_ni]

Why?

It was hilariously bad. Worth a chuckle

 

[GifLord]

@GifLord please post a gif of the pass he made around the 58 minute mark, where he just kicks it out of play under no pressure.

 

[Sunny Jim]

Matic was my motm

How come? Serious question.

 

[Ali Dia]

Matic was my motm

Ya he really picked it up in the second half. Contrast in the 2 halves just further illustrates what we are actually missing when he goes into invisible/slow mode.

 

[ivaldo]

It was hilariously bad. Worth a chuckle

Hilarious.

 

[Yagami]

Matic was my motm

Dunno if he was my motm but, yeah, definitely better than Fred.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Fred's ability to receive the ball and pass it on regularly and reliably to better players is absolutely shocking. It's lower half of the Premiership stuff and, once again, when he's playing in a game where he isn't needed to just run around a lot he looks like an unbelievably limited player.

It’s not a consistent flaw. When he’s playing well his passing is fine. Good even. When he has a bad game it falls apart completely. The canary in the coal mine for his confidence.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Dunno if he was my motm but, yeah, definitely better than Fred.

They didn't even have the same responsibilities.

 

[arnie_ni]

How come? Serious question.

Was the only one in midfield to keep the ball, made forward passes, drove forward with the ball and massively involved in the 2nd goal while carrying Fred.

 

[arnie_ni]

Hilarious.

It was a simple pass to Bruno who was in acres of space and it went closer to a goal kick than a completion

 

[ivaldo]

It was a simple pass to Bruno who was in acres of space and it went closer to a goal kick than a completion

Incredible scenes.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

@GifLord please post a gif of the pass he made around the 58 minute mark, where he just kicks it out of play under no pressure.

we could post about 8 of pogba doing the same

 

[MadDogg]

His form has been dropping for about 2 months now, and it's been particularly noticeable the last few games. Worst possible time really since we now have Pogba, VDB and McTominay all out, although the latter two should hopefully be back any game now.

He and Matic were often getting in each others way in this one though. They seemed to sort it out later on in the match, but it happened quite a bit in the first half and beginning of the second.

 

[arnie_ni]

Incredible scenes.

Really not sure what your issue here is? It wasn't me asked for it btw

He was awful today, we won, have a laugh at it and move on because he isn't usually this bad

 

[ivaldo]

Really not sure what your issue here is? It wasn't me asked for it btw

He was awful today, we won, have a laugh at it and move on because he isn't usually this bad

Oh yeah it's all laughs in the place.

 

[youngrell]

I can only assume he thought James was going to be bombing down the line.

Otherwise it’s an unbelievably bad pass.

 

[Bojan11]

we could post about 8 of pogba doing the same

Who is talking about Pogba?

 

[arnie_ni]

I can only assume he thought James was going to be bombing down the line.

Otherwise it’s an unbelievably bad pass.

It was Bruno he was aiming for

 

[NinjaFletch]

It’s not a consistent flaw. When he’s playing well his passing is fine. Good even. When he has a bad game it falls apart completely. The canary in the coal mine for his confidence.

I think it's just over ambitious. He's not got the the technique to pull off the passes he regularly attempts and although he CAN do it (the goal against Sociedad for example) it’s at the cost of games where he sprays it out of play to nobody.

 

[arnie_ni]

Oh yeah it's all laughs in the place.

Hmm, can get it read on ye. Duno why you just don't come out and say what your thinking here

 

[Yagami]

They didn't even have the same responsibilities.

Their responsibilities were to help shield the defence and give the attacking 4 and fbs a good platform to build off in attack. Matic was better at executing everything they were in there to do and even offered more with his great work for James' goal.

 

[Kag]

Not when he’s tasked with dictating the play he isn’t. Woeful recently.

 

[Bojan11]

Hmm, can get it read on ye. Duno why you just don't come out and say what your thinking here

This is what @ivaldo thought of the pass.

Christ that's bad from Fred.

 

[arnie_ni]

This is what @ivaldo thought of the pass.

Oh. Seemed like he was taking offense to the criticism of Fred for what was a shocking performance but not one reflective of his usual standard especially recently.