Forlan is a fecking great player

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Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has launched a defence of misfiring frontman Diego Forlan.

Ferguson warns Beckham
The £7m Uruguayan failed to find the target in 18 first-team outings last season and was guilty of a couple of miserable misses against Ajax and Parma during the Amsterdam tournament.

"If he was 33 I would be worried but he's not," said Ferguson of the 23-year-old, who scored a wonderful volley for Uruguay against Senegal in the World Cup.

"He is only 23 and has a long time to improve. He has great energy and movement and that gets him the opportunities.

"It is fair to say that he needs a goal to settle himself down and he has to trust himself more when he shoots.

"At the moment he is leaning back all the time, which is why those shots went over the bar.

"There is nothing wrong in terms of him taking chances, but he just needs the confidence of a goal.

"At the moment, nine parts of Diego's game are very good.


Ferguson's dilemma
"He is brave, two-footed and puts himself in the position to take chances.

"But most strikers believe they are not playing well unless they are scoring and that situation applies to Diego."

He needs to stop leaning back... ;)
 
Originally posted by Davo:
<strong>Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has launched a defence of misfiring frontman Diego Forlan.

Ferguson warns Beckham
The £7m Uruguayan failed to find the target in 18 first-team outings last season and was guilty of a couple of miserable misses against Ajax and Parma during the Amsterdam tournament.

"If he was 33 I would be worried but he's not," said Ferguson of the 23-year-old, who scored a wonderful volley for Uruguay against Senegal in the World Cup.

"He is only 23 and has a long time to improve. He has great energy and movement and that gets him the opportunities.

"It is fair to say that he needs a goal to settle himself down and he has to trust himself more when he shoots.

"At the moment he is leaning back all the time, which is why those shots went over the bar.

"There is nothing wrong in terms of him taking chances, but he just needs the confidence of a goal.

"At the moment, nine parts of Diego's game are very good.


Ferguson's dilemma
"He is brave, two-footed and puts himself in the position to take chances.

"But most strikers believe they are not playing well unless they are scoring and that situation applies to Diego."

He needs to stop leaning back... ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

The bait anin't sweet enough Davo... ;)
 
Originally posted by manux399:
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The bait anin't sweet enough Davo... ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree with Demento..

He needs a goal to boost his confidence..

How he's going to get one feck knows.. ;)
 
Forlan can't score bla bla bla weve been through this already youre geting borring.
How long until this becomes a Heskey vs Forlan thread ?
 
Personally I thought Forlan was magnificent against Parma. His link up play was exceptional, and what he did in that game, which he didn't against Ajax, was to not drop back into midfield too much, but to drop behinds Ruud into that hole and pick up the loose balls, and short midfield balls from that area! His first time pass that nearly put Ruud through was great too! He's a good player! Once we have a goal, who knows.... He might become as prolific as Ruud!
 
Originally posted by CremboMan:
<strong>Forlan can't score bla bla bla weve been through this already youre geting borring.
How long until this becomes a Heskey vs Forlan thread ?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I was providing a quote from your manager for you..no need to thank me..

One of your lesser posters will no doubt try to bring Heskey into it as a defence....after all, a striker is judged by his goals as I've often been informed on here....meaning you have no defence but to attack another...

Luckily for you, it won't be Forlan doing the attacking.. ;)
 
Originally posted by Donaldinho:
<strong>Personally I thought Forlan was magnificent against Parma. His link up play was exceptional, and what he did in that game, which he didn't against Ajax, was to not drop back into midfield too much, but to drop behinds Ruud into that hole and pick up the loose balls, and short midfield balls from that area! His first time pass that nearly put Ruud through was great too! He's a good player! Once we have a goal, who knows.... He might become as prolific as Ruud!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Agree with you mate, except he's a fecking great player. ;)

I'd like to point out that he's already scored twice in pre-season - does that make him our current joint pre-season top scorer?
 
Yes it does!! And a fine 25 yard free kick too!
Ooooh aaaaah Diego Forrrrlllllaaaan! lol
 
Originally posted by Donaldinho:
<strong>Personally I thought Forlan was magnificent against Parma. His link up play was exceptional, and what he did in that game, which he didn't against Ajax, was to not drop back into midfield too much, but to drop behinds Ruud into that hole and pick up the loose balls, and short midfield balls from that area! His first time pass that nearly put Ruud through was great too! He's a good player! Once we have a goal, who knows.... He might become as prolific as Ruud!</strong><hr></blockquote>


Do you think so? Interesting...

It doesn't matter what else he does mate, he can only be judged by how many "goals he scores"...

This is the RC way
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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I'd like to point out that he's already scored twice in pre-season - does that make him our current joint pre-season top scorer?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No, Ruud has scored 4.
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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Do you think so? Interesting...

It doesn't matter what else he does mate, he can only be judged by how many "goals he scores"...

This is the RC way</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah I mean, the hardest thing for a player to improve is his overall game. These things come through hard work and persistence and training hard. Forlan already has a complete game as far as I can see. He can hold the ball up, he's quick on the ball, he has very good technique, he looks an intelligent player to a certain degree..... All that is missing is, his goals. But as everyone knows, Goals come with confidence. Eventually he'll get the confidence, and the doubters will be put to rest.
 
Originally posted by Donaldinho:
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Yeah I mean, the hardest thing for a player to improve is his overall game. These things come through hard work and persistence and training hard. Forlan already has a complete game as far as I can see. He can hold the ball up, he's quick on the ball, he has very good technique, he looks an intelligent player to a certain degree..... All that is missing is, his goals. But as everyone knows, Goals come with confidence. Eventually he'll get the confidence, and the doubters will be put to rest.</strong><hr></blockquote>

A complete game? That goes against a lot of what I've read on here - that he won't make it at the highest level..

Anyway, I've told you...its only goals that matter on here..and he has none
 
The only critique in Diego's game thus far, is his finishing. even last season, His performances in the matches were consistently good, but he couldn't put the ball in the net. People on here are too harsh sometimes. They expect instant results! Granted, he's played 18, games and not scored, crticism is allowed there but one goal will give him that confidence, then we'll see what happens.
 
Originally posted by Donaldinho:
<strong>The only critique in Diego's game thus far, is his finishing. even last season, His performances in the matches were consistently good, but he couldn't put the ball in the net. People on here are too harsh sometimes. They expect instant results! Granted, he's played 18, games and not scored, crticism is allowed there but one goal will give him that confidence, then we'll see what happens.</strong><hr></blockquote>

So when he gets that elusive first goal, you reckon he'll be as prolific as RVN?

I can't see that happening...

How much time are you prepared to give him to get that goal before you give up?
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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I was providing a quote from your manager for you..no need to thank me..

One of your lesser posters will no doubt try to bring Heskey into it as a defence....after all, a striker is judged by his goals as I've often been informed on here....meaning you have no defence but to attack another...

Luckily for you, it won't be Forlan doing the attacking.. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

What is it with you Davo, you start what could be an interesting thread, then go and start your interpretation of piss taking. But to get back to the thread, yes I agree with SAF, Forlan does need a goal, but like you say, where will it come from. I do see similarities with Heskey, who also suffers, IMO, from lapses of confidence, but in both players their general work is good, just give it time, that's all you can do.
 
Originally posted by redfan:
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What is it with you Davo, you start what could be an interesting thread, then go and start your interpretation of piss taking. But to get back to the thread, yes I agree with SAF, Forlan does need a goal, but like you say, where will it come from. I do see similarities with Heskey, who also suffers, IMO, from lapses of confidence, but in both players their general work is good, just give it time, that's all you can do.</strong><hr></blockquote>

What is it with me?

I post an article quoting your manager and have the audacity to question the brillance of a striker who has been dire in front of goal, after hearing the Manc view that an attacker is judged by his goals?

Hyprocrital you mancs..good at dishing it out but don't like it back

Its getting to the stage where I'm hoping Forlan scores because its becoming painful, I cringed before laughing when he ballooned that sitter over the bar yesterday
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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Do you think so? Interesting...

It doesn't matter what else he does mate, he can only be judged by how many "goals he scores"...

This is the RC way</strong><hr></blockquote>

well - if we'd shelled out a major transfer fee for him and he was our first choice striker i'd agree with you... but we're not that short of goals :D
 
Who gives a F***, We have Ruudi and Ole scoring for fun, unlike Liverpool who have to relay on Heskey for goal. We have a great striker in Ole Gunner Solskjear and a WORLD CLASS striker in Ruud Van Nistelrooy, so what's the problem?? :D
 
Originally posted by sa77:
<strong>We have a great striker in Ole Gunner Solskjear and a WORLD CLASS striker in Ruud Van Nistelrooy, so what's the problem?? :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Did you know that Ruud and Raoul are the two best strikers in Europe?

<img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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Did you know that Ruud and Raoul are the two best strikers in Europe?

<img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I have to disagree i think Vieri is the best the Ronaldo then Ruudi.
 
Originally posted by sa77:
<strong>Who gives a F***, We have Ruudi and Ole scoring for fun, unlike Liverpool who have to relay on Heskey for goal. We have a great striker in Ole Gunner Solskjear and a WORLD CLASS striker in Ruud Van Nistelrooy, so what's the problem?? :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Them being decent doesn't change the fact that Forlan couldn't score in a brothel tho, does it?
 
SkySports make a good comparison <a href="http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,3360-1059975,00.html" target="_blank">here</a> between Forlan and Cole.
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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Nah, they're not up for the European player of the year award

;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

who is up for European player of the year?
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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Them being decent doesn't change the fact that Forlan couldn't score in a brothel tho, does it?</strong><hr></blockquote>

its not the end of the world, Forlan will come good in time, just give hime the time he needs and as i said he is not first choice so dont rush him.
 
Nice one Davo, you hooked um... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>SkySports make a good comparison <a href="http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,3360-1059975,00.html" target="_blank">here</a> between Forlan and Cole.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Good article. Him moving in January sounded very ambitious for someone with no international and European experience let alone the EPL race being red hot. Being next in the firing line if such consistent players as RVN and OGS aren't fit is a fecking Everest to climb.

I don't think he will be an RVN, he is more suited to supporting the strikers as a link-up or winger. That said, I would not be surprised if when he gets his first "official" goal he goes a step further and bags two.
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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What is it with me?

I post an article quoting your manager and have the audacity to question the brillance of a striker who has been dire in front of goal, after hearing the Manc view that an attacker is judged by his goals?

Hyprocrital you mancs..good at dishing it out but don't like it back

Its getting to the stage where I'm hoping Forlan scores because its becoming painful, I cringed before laughing when he ballooned that sitter over the bar yesterday</strong><hr></blockquote>

I made a comparison between Forlan and Heskey, how similar they played with a lack of confidence, it's a fair comparison, as is Owen and RVN, two strikers who don't lack confidence, so who's dishing what. All I see in you is a clockwork scouser who knows feck all about anything, so do me a favour, sling your fecking hook
 
Give Forlan some time. Baros spent a whole season at Pool and now looks a totally different player. He may even push Heskey out.
 
I think fergie will play him in the midfield his wide play is great he looks nervous in front of goal but id be disapointed if he didnt get 15 goals this season
 
Originally posted by redfan:
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I made a comparison between Forlan and Heskey, how similar they played with a lack of confidence, it's a fair comparison, as is Owen and RVN, two strikers who don't lack confidence, so who's dishing what. All I see in you is a clockwork scouser who knows feck all about anything, so do me a favour, sling your fecking hook</strong><hr></blockquote>


Why can you never defend Forlan without bringing someone else into it?

Is it because otherwise its impossible..

Would you live next to a Uruguayan?
 
Originally posted by finto:
<strong>I think fergie will play him in the midfield his wide play is great he looks nervous in front of goal but id be disapointed if he didnt get 15 goals this season</strong><hr></blockquote>

Don't set your targets so low..

He should be good for a good 30 goals, despite the fact that he's never scored in a competitive game for you
 
<img src="graemlins/yawn.gif" border="0" alt="[Yawn]" /> You are right of course again.
 
Originally posted by reddermo:
<strong> <img src="graemlins/yawn.gif" border="0" alt="[Yawn]" /> You are right of course again.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Good response

You cheeky little Irish scoundrel