This is like saying the football is actually more important than all the other issues surrounding the world cup.
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Why don't you just do your work and nothing else?
like I've said in that other thread, all talk. we will fight for opressed... until you threaten us with yellow card. so much for certain things being bigger than football.
The fact that the tournament is being held in Qatar already says that doesn't it?
Spineless cowards. The Iranian Captain literally risking his life to speak up for the Iranian protestors while Kane won't even risk a booking.
Not when it comes to making potentially meaningful statements either by word or act. If Harry Kane decided to swap his official FIFA armband with a rainbow one at the last minute - as a feck you to both FIFA and the FA - that would be a powerful statement under the circumstances.
In any case, the very least one can expect from footballers is that they don't waffle on about things they aren't prepared to truly stand up for.
Why wouldn't I?
I judge people for how they interact etc with me not their personal choices.
Yeah he's working for Bein as he said it's important to go and criticise the government whilst also taking their money. Why doesn't he wear the armband to show support too.
And Gary Lineker… and the others in the studio.
Wear a fecking rainbow suit/dress if you can. Just don’t talk about it then move on like it’s a soundbite.
No, that's actually confirmation that money is the most important
It's really disappointing from England and the players.
What was the official stance for not allowing the one love armband?
I can’t quite fathom how as a human species we still struggle to embrace inclusivity. Despite all the global suffering and wars and senseless blood shed, we continue to blindly grasp onto broken ideologies all for the sake of some pseudo self-righteous validation.
Disgusting move from FIFA. This World Cup is all but dead to me.
I can’t quite fathom how as a human species we still struggle to embrace inclusivity. Despite all the global suffering and wars and senseless blood shed, we continue to blindly grasp onto broken ideologies all for the sake of some pseudo self-righteous validation.
Disgusting move from FIFA. This World Cup is all but dead to me.
How's the English media reporting this? They've been quick with everything remotely negative so far.
Then he will show up in a rainbow suit next time he is on Air over there.
That is a bit pathetic isn’t..
No, that's actually confirmation that money is the most important
If you needed this as confirmation of that then I don't know what to say.
It's been obvious from day one.
I sympathise with the players who are being put in this position.
I want every team to wear the armband but understand the hesitancy that's all.
And I’m sure the vast majority of fans would prefer it.
Its one thing talking out… it’s another thing completely to carry on talking/taking actions regardless of bullying threats. It’s either a cause you believe in or lip service. I’d prefer nothing over lip service.
What a complete shit show.
Talksport said earlier on The Breakfast Show that there is a poster of Harry Maguire been put up in Qutar for the World Cup and he is wearing the armband apparently. They seemed to have missed that.
Some part of me is hopeful he’ll still wear it but then I see Beckham et al. Chowing down on the hush money and realise there’s no chance.
It's an easy cop out for players that most will just accept, they can just say they're there for the football.
What really winds me up is they are quick enough to wear armbands etc when it's easy, but when it gets difficult it's a simple u-turn. It greatly degrades the messages they have sent in the past, and any future ones.
None of my business is the truthful answer.
I live in the UK. UK has certain laws and rights. I signed up to these when I got my passport. I don't judge you individually and wouldn't like to be judged on my sexual preferences. Because basically I am no one in the scheme of things to judge anyone.
I do actually think a number of them care but just aren’t independent/brave enough to say ‘no’. I get everyone dreams of a WC and they’d really be ostracised by the FA but there comes a time you have to stand up for what you believe in.
I always say footballers are one of the few groups of people who can actually live a relatively free life. They can all retire now, they won’t want for anything for generations, so they should be speaking up.
Great point, hopefully people will remember this in the future and call them out.
Kane comes out (not like that) with the FIFA approved armband, as he’s walking onto the pitch he removes it to reveal the OneLove armband. Gets his yellow (again, not like that), takes it off, continues the game as normal. Cameras have already broadcast it around the world. Every game after that it’ll be a question of ‘will he wear it again?’ So the armband is on everyone’s minds constantly. Once the yellow card expires he does it again. Back into the showers with the lads. Bish, bash, bosh. Big finish at the end. Job done.
Yellow cards don't expire this wc.
Taking the knee is going to be awkward, might as well bin that an all because it’s now meaningless.
That's from the Old Testament. The OT is in essence an explanation of history, which puts the New Testament in context (how we came to this point). Christians aren't bound by all the statements in Leviticus (which was basically a ceremonial and moral guide for priests).
The UK LGBT+ community will be wondering if they're standing alone after all. The answer is yes, they are. The push from the FA is obviously coming from the very top (government) because it always is in political issues. Money talks. UK needs the oil money. We're all just Man City really, we just haven't realised it. Until now.
Definitely but they'll make future statements of support because nobody will call them out for it.
I had my reservations about the backbone of the FA and the players, but I'm still disappointed at their decision. The LGBT+ community must feel really let down.
Yeah, the FA have just proven that the one love campaign was just a PR/marketing move that crumbled at the first sign of some pathetic threats. Then they think they can turn around and take the knee at the same time. It will just look off now.
Why are you commenting if people shouldn't be able to talk about anything that isn't job related.
Just saw that news. He’s taking a huge risk and is showing a lot of guts saying it so publicly. Huge respect to him for it.
Meanwhile; Oh no, I might get a yellow card…
Because didn't you also say you wouldn't let someone drinking alcohol into your home?
Sorted.
It’s literally been 30 minutes long surely you can’t be that bored or maybe you’re attention seeking.
So you can dislike something personally but not be unjust or oppressive unless it's transgender which is different?
I am actually bothered it was only seven federations who were going to do this. Why are people not asking questions about them.
So you never talk about anything but work while you are at work. How very dedicated of you. Most people talk about the things we care about while at work as well as when we are on our own time. It's an inalienable right of every body in a free world to be able to discuss things that we fell are important.