Gaming Football Manager 2009

anyone playing united? I've got a comfortable tactic, Rooney potted something like 34 in 45 however I struggled to get Berbatov involved more. he only scored 12 i believe. Good distribution around the team with the midfielders and wingers chipping in with goals.

look for some suggestions on a Rooney-Berbatov pairing. Got Berbatov on the left pushing the line with Rooney behind him. Berbatov is on high through balls, medium long shots, high RWB and Medium FWR. Low Crossing aswell. Target man is not checked.
 
I don't think I've ever played a United game on '09 where I've not sold Berbatov after one season. He's just shite.

Hilariously, in my main game he got pissy because I wasn't playing him, so I sold him for thirty million (!) to Barcelona, where he immediately got pissy because they weren't playing him. He stayed there for a season before moving for thirty-three million (!!) to AC Milan, where... he got pissy because they weren't playing him.

Over the course of the three seasons with all three clubs I think he had about twenty appearances in total. :lol:
 
I had one decent season out of Berbatov once, before he started going 10-15 game stretches with no goals whatsoever, cut my loses and sold back to Spurs for like £10 million.

My current game, probably the best fun I have had in a long time with 09, Atletico Madrid, currently 1st in La Liga in the second season after a comfortable 4th in the first. But Real are so strong with the likes of Kaka, Ronnie and Raul, Benzema now starting to score for fun too, 1 point ahead at the transfer window.

I always find if I start a new game and do a season or 2 at one team, if I move on I lose interest very quickly, building your own side from day 1 seems to have the best fun to it for some reason.
 
Berbatov is shit in FM 09 for some strange reason..
strange cause his stats are bloody awesome..

But good thing is I always got around 30/35 million for him the couple of times I sold him, either to City or Barca..
 
Berbatov was always shit for me, so I dumped him off to Chelski and he suddenly became amazingly good, was their top scorer for 3-4 seasons I think.

Same annoyingly applied to Tevez. I sold him off to Madrid for £30m or so, they start playing him as a right winger and suddenly he is BPitW (for one season). He was always shockingly bad for me.

Still, I got Huntelaar, who is a beast! ....Until 5 years later when I sold him to Madrid too. He was 30 odd and i got £30m for him, twice what I paid, and Bojan had just started to really come of age, so it was time to promote him to the first choice striker.
 
Berbatov was always shit for me, so I dumped him off to Chelski and he suddenly became amazingly good, was their top scorer for 3-4 seasons I think.

Same annoyingly applied to Tevez. I sold him off to Madrid for £30m or so, they start playing him as a right winger and suddenly he is BPitW (for one season). He was always shockingly bad for me.

Still, I got Huntelaar, who is a beast! ....Until 5 years later when I sold him to Madrid too. He was 30 odd and i got £30m for him, twice what I paid, and Bojan had just started to really come of age, so it was time to promote him to the first choice striker.

Berba yes, Tevez no, he was my star player for 3 seasons, and in fact even when I brought Aguero in he was out scoring him for a while, he's absolutely immense in the game!
 
Brilliant, I bought Fabian Delph in season 1, for 1 million. Sold him for 30 odd million in summer of season 3, by January, he was unhappy, because he couldn't settle there. I bought him back for 5 million
 
I started a season with Tottenham. Have started well, 4/4 wins in the Prem just like real life. All the transfers were updated and I brought in Miguel Veloso, Max Tonetto & Mario Ballotelli. Sold Gareth Bale, David Bentley & a few others.
 
I reckon in some matches the game should just be honest and go, 'Yeah we've decided the other team are going to win this one, there's nothing you can do about it, sorry.'
 
Torres just scored for me (United) against Liverpool, and just kissed the badge, brilliant...lol

Nice way for him to end his goalscoring drought, was almost 9 hours
 
I reckon in some matches the game should just be honest and go, 'Yeah we've decided the other team are going to win this one, there's nothing you can do about it, sorry.'

It doesn't work like that. I know it feels like it does sometimes, but it doesn't. And I've screamed at the monitor my share of times.
 
Right, just to give you gayers an update. Gateshead are in League 2 thanks to playoff wins against Cambridge and Chester City.

I have Tom Heaton by the way :lol:
 
picked up Gourcuff for 8M euros and Mata for 14M euros, they are both class on the wings. sold Nani to the gunners for 35M euros + 15% of next sale and looking to get rid of berbatov this summer. He is fecking annoying, keeps going 8-12 consecutive hours without scoring. Luckily Rooney, Hamsik, Camacho or one of the wingers pull his slack.

One thing I learned, if Rooney plays bad during a half you can tell him your 'disappointed' and he'll improve the second half each time. For Berba, I have to baby him, by telling him 'I have faith in him' or can 'make a difference here' otherwise he cries and does worse.
 
its ridiculous. Bojan has been on an incredible scoring spree, getting 20 in 18 games, and been insanely good for the last year.

my defence has the least goals conceded worldwide, my midfield consists of three players widely regarded as the best in the world (Veloso, De Rossi, Fabregas), and my attack is along the lines of Bojan, Rooney, Ronaldo and Messi (in a 4-2-3-1).

Yet still Arsenal beat me, and at the end of the year, not one of my players wins "player of the year" for their respective positions. Bojan didnt even come within the top 3. Ludicrous.
 
Aguero always wins world player of the year for me and bojan always wins world footballer. Frey wins world keeper, guardado wins world midfielder and sakho wins world defender on a regular basis. I usually have 5 or 6 in world team of the year.
 
Out of interest has anyone had Pavel Pogrebnyak? and has he been good for you?

On mine and my mates game we bought him for our Brighton team (in premiership after 4 seasons) And he's an utter, utter donkey. He's literally not scored one league goal for us in about 20 games.
 
He was shit for me at United. I only bought him because his favourite club was United but he had like a 100 hour goal drought -_-
 
He was shit for me at United. I only bought him because his favourite club was United but he had like a 100 hour goal drought -_-

:lol: Sounds about right. He's probably the worst player i've had in terms of what was spent on him and his return. I remember we got merked on the transfer price as it was last day of the season and are chairman was a nob and excepted a last minute bid for our star striker so we needed him. He cost around £16/17mil. And he really is dog shit.
 
I hope they sort out the take overs in FM 2010. I started a game with Newcastle got a few injures in December had to get a few players in Jan couldn't because the club was being taken over. About 3 months later March I was in 1st place in the Championship 8 points clear just 2 loses still get fired by the new owners for Bryan Robson.
 
It doesn't work like that. I know it feels like it does sometimes, but it doesn't. And I've screamed at the monitor my share of times.

How does it work then?


I just lost the semi of the cup to Fiorentina, with 2 last minutes free kicks.

The first, the game just skipped to the highlight of Montolivo taking a 40 yards free kick along the ground into the corner to make it 3-2 to me.

Then in the 95th minute (only 93 were supposed to be played) Vargas curled a 35 yarder in off the bar to draw 3-3 and win 4-3 on agg.

We've had this debate before niMic, because this kind of shit happens 3000 times a season and you believe the game doesn't predetermine and fabricate bullshit. So if it really doesn't then I must be the unluckiest mother fecker in the world.
 
:lol: Sounds about right. He's probably the worst player i've had in terms of what was spent on him and his return. I remember we got merked on the transfer price as it was last day of the season and are chairman was a nob and excepted a last minute bid for our star striker so we needed him. He cost around £16/17mil. And he really is dog shit.

Yeah, no matter where I played him I couldn't get him to score. I couldn't bare to get rid of him though as he was at his dream club :lol:
 
How does it work then?


I just lost the semi of the cup to Fiorentina, with 2 last minutes free kicks.

The first, the game just skipped to the highlight of Montolivo taking a 40 yards free kick along the ground into the corner to make it 3-2 to me.

Then in the 95th minute (only 93 were supposed to be played) Vargas curled a 35 yarder in off the bar to draw 3-3 and win 4-3 on agg.

We've had this debate before niMic, because this kind of shit happens 3000 times a season and you believe the game doesn't predetermine and fabricate bullshit. So if it really doesn't then I must be the unluckiest mother fecker in the world.

All I know is that I've probably had as many outrageous incidents in my favour as against it. It might be harder to spot if you usually only play top teams, since the difference between performing as expected against Wigan and playing extremely well against Wigan might not be that big. My Lower League experience tells me that I've gotten as much for as against. It's bound to be an overweight one way or the other for someone, though, so maybe you've just got the short end of the stick.
 
All I know is that I've probably had as many outrageous incidents in my favour as against it. It might be harder to spot if you usually only play top teams, since the difference between performing as expected against Wigan and playing extremely well against Wigan might not be that big. My Lower League experience tells me that I've gotten as much for as against. It's bound to be an overweight one way or the other for someone, though, so maybe you've just got the short end of the stick.

Yeah in my Welling game, my squad overall was very determined and always seemed to scored later winners or equalisers.
 
Yeah, no matter where I played him I couldn't get him to score. I couldn't bare to get rid of him though as he was at his dream club :lol:

:lol: well he's somehow managed to get a second season here. This is down to the fact that no one was offering even a quarter what a i paid for him and i didn't want another proper flop so i thought i'd give him another chance. I seriously think he's trying to miss sometimes with the chances he gets :D

Anywho i'm off out down ze pub to watch the England game :D
 
on pogrebnyak on my inter game he got signed by another bought out club in reggina in the january window, he went on to play every game and score 1 goal, then the next season when they were relegated he got a fair few in serie B when AC signed him in january, he is yet to score for them, at the start of the next season that is
 
The Football Manager engine predetermines the score before you load the match and then fits the highlights around that score. It's been confirmed by SI that's how it works - it would require far too much processor power and genuine artificial intelligence to actually play it out on the fly.
 
The Football Manager engine predetermines the score before you load the match and then fits the highlights around that score. It's been confirmed by SI that's how it works - it would require far too much processor power and genuine artificial intelligence to actually play it out on the fly.

That is just a huge let down if it is true. :mad:
 
That is just a huge let down if it is true. :mad:

I don't mean it goes, "2-0" and then gives you that result no matter what happens. What I mean is that you select your team, the opposition selects there's and then it instantly does the maths on determination, skill, works out the tactics etc. and then comes up with the result. The highlights are then made to fit around that maths.

So if you selected a different lineup you'd get a different result, and you might get a different result if you just replayed it (as it would have to redo the maths), but it does take away the joy from that last minute goal somewhat when the computer has known that it's coming the entire time, eh?
 
The Football Manager engine predetermines the score before you load the match and then fits the highlights around that score. It's been confirmed by SI that's how it works - it would require far too much processor power and genuine artificial intelligence to actually play it out on the fly.

It computes ahead until you change tactics.
 
Anyone else buy some expensive signings and then get bored? That always happens to me, I wanted Patrik Helmes and some other fella, spent about £30 mill combined and now I cba to play anymore.

This happened to me, im trying to sell Miguel Veloso at the moment, hes good but hes 29 and my new tactic in 2015 is to try and blood kids from the youth academy. Currently have a RB, LM, RM, 2 CM and a CB waiting in the wings. Bought a scotting left back, and according to redcafe thats ok.
 
I don't mean it goes, "2-0" and then gives you that result no matter what happens. What I mean is that you select your team, the opposition selects there's and then it instantly does the maths on determination, skill, works out the tactics etc. and then comes up with the result. The highlights are then made to fit around that maths.

So if you selected a different lineup you'd get a different result, and you might get a different result if you just replayed it (as it would have to redo the maths), but it does take away the joy from that last minute goal somewhat when the computer has known that it's coming the entire time, eh?

It makes perfect sense that it does it this way, though. And like Addis said, the instant you change anything it recalculates.
 
I don't mean it goes, "2-0" and then gives you that result no matter what happens. What I mean is that you select your team, the opposition selects there's and then it instantly does the maths on determination, skill, works out the tactics etc. and then comes up with the result. The highlights are then made to fit around that maths.

So if you selected a different lineup you'd get a different result, and you might get a different result if you just replayed it (as it would have to redo the maths), but it does take away the joy from that last minute goal somewhat when the computer has known that it's coming the entire time, eh?

The fact you dont know that the last minute goal isnt coming means that it hsouldnt take away any joy. Substitutions can cause it to recalculate.

I was winning in the second leg of the champions league semi final 0-2 to man city.(first one ended 1-0 so i was up 3-0).

City scored 4 goals in the second half to win 4-2. That is bs and when it feels rigged.

Ive hardly conceded 1 goal per game all season let alone 4 in the second half.
Mark hughes was declared leader of the universe by their fans.
 
The fact you dont know that the last minute goal isnt coming means that it hsouldnt take away any joy. Substitutions can cause it to recalculate.

I was winning in the second leg of the champions league semi final 0-2 to man city.(first one ended 1-0 so i was up 3-0).

City scored 4 goals in the second half to win 4-2. That is bs and when it feels rigged.

Ive hardly conceded 1 goal per game all season let alone 4 in the second half.
Mark hughes was declared leader of the universe by their fans.

pretty much the same thing here. In the FA cup Semis I beat chelsea 3-0 at the bridge, then went up 2-0 at OT, only for chelsea to storm back by scoring 7, yes thats right, 7 straight goals regardless of me going from an attacking 4-4-2, to a more defensive countering 4-3-3 to a complete turtle 4-5-1. I was in utter disbelief, especially that fooking Kalou finished me off, which is second only to being beaten by Eboue. This from only losing 2 games all season and not conceding more than 2 goals per game.
 
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Just seen this! Why have I never hired him before?
 
I would like to recommend to those battling it out in the English lower leagues a one Jamie Ward. English-born NI International. Most likely at Sheff Utd at the start of the game. Cost me roughly 250k and is the white Jermaine Beckford. Tends to play better with an athletic/tall striker partnered alongside him. Him and Péricard worked wonders for my Gateshead team.