Florian Wirtz | Leverkusen player

The second goal was Grimaldo, flash score also thought it was Wirtz though

I didn't think it was him, I've just said "you've scored again" because Zehner is a Leverkusen fan :)
 
Or, you know, we just extend Musiala.
You sure about that?

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2 DAYS AGO
Bayern Munich director of sport Max Eberl has admitted the club are finding contract talks with star player Jamal Musiala “difficult”.
Musiala has become a key man at Bayern since leaving Chelsea in 2019, but his current deal is due to expire at the end of next season.
The 21-year-old shone for Germany at Euro 2024 this summer, finishing the competition as joint top-scorer and being named in the team of the tournament.
Musiala is attracting interest from the likes of Manchester United and Manchester City in the Premier League, but Bayern are determined to overcome any hurdles to keep him.
“It’s difficult, but not impossible - as Jamal knows what he has at Bayern Munich,” Eberl told German TV channel Sport1.
“He grew up here and has brought himself to this level. Talks are intensifying. We are extremely ambitious and he knows that he wants to win titles.”

- That´s your director of sport talking to German newspaper 18th September.


The article also mention that Bayern have more important players that wants new contract, like Kimmich, Sane, Davies, Dier, Neuer, Muller all in 2025 and Musiala, Goretzka, Gnabry, Upamencano, Guerreoiro, etc etc. And there is zero chance that you can offer all them what they believe they deserve, some because they are in their prime, some because its their last big contract, some because they are one of the best in world in their position, some because big clubs with a lot of money and attract power will take advantage of your shitty contract situation and some will have a big contract because they have been in Bayern for a long time and want a reward for their loyalty.

And if you dont win the league this year, and in CL you have at least 4-5 much better teams with higher chance of winning it - you will lose A LOT of the attract power you had the last 10-15 years when you were winning the league for like 10 years and where a contender for the CL every year, so the best players will seek for either A LOT of money to stay or you bringing in like 5-6 world class players because you will need to replace at least 4-5 positions where you had players who were one of the best in their position in their prime (Neuer, Muller, Goretzka, Kimmich) and if players like Davies, Musiala, Gnabry and Sane decides to leave - you will need to build a new team while not being the Bayern 2013-2018 who could attract the best players in Germany at least (Wirtz is one you would need to sign to start with) and even bring in some big names from other leagues like you used to (Kane, Sane, Davies, Musiala).

I am only saying this because you club have made some weird decisions the last 4-5 years (sacking Nagelsmann was the maybe the worst), second one is to hang on with players who you should have replaced already (Neuer, Muller etc) and third the most worrying is having so many important players with 9-24 months left on their contract and mot having extremely much money to extend and make all of them satisfied and at the same time having 3-4 important players entering their last years of their carrier.

And if any fans understands your situation, then its us, we have been in problems with overpaying old players and paying fees 3 times more then the players were worth and not having a board who pulled the team in the same direction - and it took us 12 years (at least we have world class people working for us in almost every position and we are finally not paying fantasy fees just because we are Manchester United and they knew that we were desperate and would eventually pay what ever they asked just because we believed "superstars" who only joined the club for money would be the solution (Di Maria, Alexis, Maguire, Mount, ANTONY etc are some players we either signed them for their "name" or because plan A, B, C failed so we went in for them last days of the transfer window and paid what ever the club asked.

You guys have to be prepared for some less fun years, hard goodbyes, not getting players you really want to join etc but hopefully the guys running the club have a 3-4 year plan for have you will solve all these problems and again be force to count with - GOOD LUCK!
 
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You sure about that?

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2 DAYS AGO
Bayern Munich director of sport Max Eberl has admitted the club are finding contract talks with star player Jamal Musiala “difficult”.
Musiala has become a key man at Bayern since leaving Chelsea in 2019, but his current deal is due to expire at the end of next season.
The 21-year-old shone for Germany at Euro 2024 this summer, finishing the competition as joint top-scorer and being named in the team of the tournament.
Musiala is attracting interest from the likes of Manchester United and Manchester City in the Premier League, but Bayern are determined to overcome any hurdles to keep him.
“It’s difficult, but not impossible - as Jamal knows what he has at Bayern Munich,” Eberl told German TV channel Sport1.
“He grew up here and has brought himself to this level. Talks are intensifying. We are extremely ambitious and he knows that he wants to win titles.”

- That´s your director of sport talking to German newspaper 18th September.


The article also mention that Bayern have more important players that wants new contract, like Kimmich, Sane, Davies, Dier, Neuer, Muller all in 2025 and Musiala, Goretzka, Gnabry, Upamencano, Guerreoiro, etc etc. And there is zero chance that you can offer all them what they believe they deserve, some because they are in their prime, some because its their last big contract, some because they are one of the best in world in their position, some because big clubs with a lot of money and attract power will take advantage of your shitty contract situation and some will have a big contract because they have been in Bayern for a long time and want a reward for their loyalty.

And if you dont win the league this year, and in CL you have at least 4-5 much better teams with higher chance of winning it - you will lose A LOT of the attract power you had the last 10-15 years when you were winning the league for like 10 years and where a contender for the CL every year, so the best players will seek for either A LOT of money to stay or you bringing in like 5-6 world class players because you will need to replace at least 4-5 positions where you had players who were one of the best in their position in their prime (Neuer, Muller, Goretzka, Kimmich) and if players like Davies, Musiala, Gnabry and Sane decides to leave - you will need to build a new team while not being the Bayern 2013-2018 who could attract the best players in Germany at least (Wirtz is one you would need to sign to start with) and even bring in some big names from other leagues like you used to (Kane, Sane, Davies, Musiala).

I am only saying this because you club have made some weird decisions the last 4-5 years (sacking Nagelsmann was the maybe the worst), second one is to hang on with players who you should have replaced already (Neuer, Muller etc) and third the most worrying is having so many important players with 9-24 months left on their contract and mot having extremely much money to extend and make all of them satisfied and at the same time having 3-4 important players entering their last years of their carrier.

And if any fans understands your situation, then its us, we have been in problems with overpaying old players and paying fees 3 times more then the players were worth and not having a board who pulled the team in the same direction - and it took us 12 years (at least we have world class people working for us in almost every position and we are finally not paying fantasy fees just because we are Manchester United and they knew that we were desperate and would eventually pay what ever they asked just because we believed "superstars" who only joined the club for money would be the solution (Di Maria, Alexis, Maguire, Mount, ANTONY etc are some players we either signed them for their "name" or because plan A, B, C failed so we went in for them last days of the transfer window and paid what ever the club asked.

You guys have to be prepared for some less fun years, hard goodbyes, not getting players you really want to join etc but hopefully the guys running the club have a 3-4 year plan for have you will solve all these problems and again be force to count with - GOOD LUCK!
Not sure. But quite optimistic. His extension is by far our biggest priority and we will do whatever we can to pull it off. We’ve done extensions that were even more difficult in the past. So I see no reason as to why it shouldn’t happen. Sure, some players want to leave, no matter what (Ballack). But I don’t worry about that.
 
You sure about that?

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2 DAYS AGO
Bayern Munich director of sport Max Eberl has admitted the club are finding contract talks with star player Jamal Musiala “difficult”.
Musiala has become a key man at Bayern since leaving Chelsea in 2019, but his current deal is due to expire at the end of next season.
The 21-year-old shone for Germany at Euro 2024 this summer, finishing the competition as joint top-scorer and being named in the team of the tournament.
Musiala is attracting interest from the likes of Manchester United and Manchester City in the Premier League, but Bayern are determined to overcome any hurdles to keep him.
“It’s difficult, but not impossible - as Jamal knows what he has at Bayern Munich,” Eberl told German TV channel Sport1.
“He grew up here and has brought himself to this level. Talks are intensifying. We are extremely ambitious and he knows that he wants to win titles.”

- That´s your director of sport talking to German newspaper 18th September.


The article also mention that Bayern have more important players that wants new contract, like Kimmich, Sane, Davies, Dier, Neuer, Muller all in 2025 and Musiala, Goretzka, Gnabry, Upamencano, Guerreoiro, etc etc. And there is zero chance that you can offer all them what they believe they deserve, some because they are in their prime, some because its their last big contract, some because they are one of the best in world in their position, some because big clubs with a lot of money and attract power will take advantage of your shitty contract situation and some will have a big contract because they have been in Bayern for a long time and want a reward for their loyalty.

And if you dont win the league this year, and in CL you have at least 4-5 much better teams with higher chance of winning it - you will lose A LOT of the attract power you had the last 10-15 years when you were winning the league for like 10 years and where a contender for the CL every year, so the best players will seek for either A LOT of money to stay or you bringing in like 5-6 world class players because you will need to replace at least 4-5 positions where you had players who were one of the best in their position in their prime (Neuer, Muller, Goretzka, Kimmich) and if players like Davies, Musiala, Gnabry and Sane decides to leave - you will need to build a new team while not being the Bayern 2013-2018 who could attract the best players in Germany at least (Wirtz is one you would need to sign to start with) and even bring in some big names from other leagues like you used to (Kane, Sane, Davies, Musiala).

I am only saying this because you club have made some weird decisions the last 4-5 years (sacking Nagelsmann was the maybe the worst), second one is to hang on with players who you should have replaced already (Neuer, Muller etc) and third the most worrying is having so many important players with 9-24 months left on their contract and mot having extremely much money to extend and make all of them satisfied and at the same time having 3-4 important players entering their last years of their carrier.

And if any fans understands your situation, then its us, we have been in problems with overpaying old players and paying fees 3 times more then the players were worth and not having a board who pulled the team in the same direction - and it took us 12 years (at least we have world class people working for us in almost every position and we are finally not paying fantasy fees just because we are Manchester United and they knew that we were desperate and would eventually pay what ever they asked just because we believed "superstars" who only joined the club for money would be the solution (Di Maria, Alexis, Maguire, Mount, ANTONY etc are some players we either signed them for their "name" or because plan A, B, C failed so we went in for them last days of the transfer window and paid what ever the club asked.

You guys have to be prepared for some less fun years, hard goodbyes, not getting players you really want to join etc but hopefully the guys running the club have a 3-4 year plan for have you will solve all these problems and again be force to count with - GOOD LUCK!

While I agree with the general sentiment that Bayern faces more urging issues than a Wirtz signature and an overall difficult contract situation, this is a bit exaggerated, IMO. Bayern is hesitant to spend but they still have big reserves. Their finances will take a hit when some of the players you mentioned sit out their contracts or get the extensions they want but they'll be able to make huge investments nonetheless - the question is rather if they are willing to. Anyway, matches like yesterday will only make it more difficult for Bayern to get Wirtz since his price will only increase with such performances. And let's be real, as long as they have Musiala, Bayern don't really need Wirtz. When you have your squad sorted out, you can go for such a transfer but in this situation his signature would likely mean that more urging issues won't be solved.




Anyway, back to actual football: I think his first UCL goal summed Wirtz up very well. Not because he always scores like this but it brillantly showcased his situational awareness which IMO is what distinguishes him from other world class talents. He's always aware of his surroundings and reacts in split seconds to opponent movements and space that opens up. In this case, he received the ball and everybody expected the through ball to Boniface in typical Wirtz fashion but he recognizes immediately that the defender overcommits to cover the striker's run and the goal keeper already positions himself in expectation of the pass so he seamlessly takes the shot with his weak foot into the open corner of the goal. Wirtz' technique, dribbling, passing, even his pace are fantastic but this level of situational awareness is often overlooked and very rare. He processes these situations and anticipates space as quickly as I have only seen Messi do it.
 
You sure about that?

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2 DAYS AGO
Bayern Munich director of sport Max Eberl has admitted the club are finding contract talks with star player Jamal Musiala “difficult”.
Musiala has become a key man at Bayern since leaving Chelsea in 2019, but his current deal is due to expire at the end of next season.
The 21-year-old shone for Germany at Euro 2024 this summer, finishing the competition as joint top-scorer and being named in the team of the tournament.
Musiala is attracting interest from the likes of Manchester United and Manchester City in the Premier League, but Bayern are determined to overcome any hurdles to keep him.
“It’s difficult, but not impossible - as Jamal knows what he has at Bayern Munich,” Eberl told German TV channel Sport1.
“He grew up here and has brought himself to this level. Talks are intensifying. We are extremely ambitious and he knows that he wants to win titles.”

- That´s your director of sport talking to German newspaper 18th September.


The article also mention that Bayern have more important players that wants new contract, like Kimmich, Sane, Davies, Dier, Neuer, Muller all in 2025 and Musiala, Goretzka, Gnabry, Upamencano, Guerreoiro, etc etc. And there is zero chance that you can offer all them what they believe they deserve, some because they are in their prime, some because its their last big contract, some because they are one of the best in world in their position, some because big clubs with a lot of money and attract power will take advantage of your shitty contract situation and some will have a big contract because they have been in Bayern for a long time and want a reward for their loyalty.

And if you dont win the league this year, and in CL you have at least 4-5 much better teams with higher chance of winning it - you will lose A LOT of the attract power you had the last 10-15 years when you were winning the league for like 10 years and where a contender for the CL every year, so the best players will seek for either A LOT of money to stay or you bringing in like 5-6 world class players because you will need to replace at least 4-5 positions where you had players who were one of the best in their position in their prime (Neuer, Muller, Goretzka, Kimmich) and if players like Davies, Musiala, Gnabry and Sane decides to leave - you will need to build a new team while not being the Bayern 2013-2018 who could attract the best players in Germany at least (Wirtz is one you would need to sign to start with) and even bring in some big names from other leagues like you used to (Kane, Sane, Davies, Musiala).

I am only saying this because you club have made some weird decisions the last 4-5 years (sacking Nagelsmann was the maybe the worst), second one is to hang on with players who you should have replaced already (Neuer, Muller etc) and third the most worrying is having so many important players with 9-24 months left on their contract and mot having extremely much money to extend and make all of them satisfied and at the same time having 3-4 important players entering their last years of their carrier.

And if any fans understands your situation, then its us, we have been in problems with overpaying old players and paying fees 3 times more then the players were worth and not having a board who pulled the team in the same direction - and it took us 12 years (at least we have world class people working for us in almost every position and we are finally not paying fantasy fees just because we are Manchester United and they knew that we were desperate and would eventually pay what ever they asked just because we believed "superstars" who only joined the club for money would be the solution (Di Maria, Alexis, Maguire, Mount, ANTONY etc are some players we either signed them for their "name" or because plan A, B, C failed so we went in for them last days of the transfer window and paid what ever the club asked.

You guys have to be prepared for some less fun years, hard goodbyes, not getting players you really want to join etc but hopefully the guys running the club have a 3-4 year plan for have you will solve all these problems and again be force to count with - GOOD LUCK!
It‘s the hope that kills you.