Flamini

apotheosis said:
Did you miss this part of my original post?

'In professional sport if you are not amongst those blessed with the highest quality, then you have to strike while the iron's hot.'

When you are already at one of the biggest clubs why move? You missed the point entirely. The point was when average players have a purple patch in their careers it sometimes elevates their standing so they get offers from big clubs. If they don't move then, the opportunity to play for one of the big guns may never come again.

Sorry, but Arsenal are just not in that elite bracket, and in that regard you simply cannot compare them to a club like Utd.
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Rubbish. We had many clubs ahead of us in the 80s, both in England and Europe, who were winning things, while we were sunk in midtable mediocrity. Ruud was with us during one of our lean stretches in the last few years. Both examples I gave should have moved to clubs challenging for trophies at the very least, by your logic.

And whatever happened to knuckling down and putting in the work needed to elevate your club's fortunes? Are you exempting Hleb and Flamini from Arsenal's failures while they were there? Their attitude/actions say, "well I can't put in the work needed to win trophies here, so I'll just join a big shot and freeload". It's a useless attitude.
 
adexkola said:
Rubbish. We had many clubs ahead of us in the 80s, both in England and Europe, who were winning things, while we were sunk in midtable mediocrity. Ruud was with us during one of our lean stretches in the last few years. Both examples I gave should have moved to clubs challenging for trophies at the very least, by your logic.

And whatever happened to knuckling down and putting in the work needed to elevate your club's fortunes? Are you exempting Hleb and Flamini from Arsenal's failures while they were there? Their attitude/actions say, "well I can't put in the work needed to win trophies here, so I'll just join a big shot and freeload". It's a useless attitude.
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Agreed. I wonder if posters would be as supportive of the attitude if it was a United player in question.
 
Varun_Utd said:
Agreed. I wonder if posters would be as supportive of the attitude if it was a United player in question.
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I wouldn't be supportive but I would understand as after a modern day footballer has got nothing to do with being loyal to a club (most of the time anyway).Times have changed
 
kouroux said:
I wouldn't be supportive but I would understand as after a modern day footballer has got nothing to do with being loyal to a club (most of the time anyway).Times have changed
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Yes, but when a manager brings you from being a nobody and grooms you into a good player, its selfish to run off the first time a bigger club comes calling. Understandable yes, certainly so in modern times, but i certainly see why the gooners arent very happy with him.
 
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