ANY as defence is ridiculously easy to play against, those 80 rated plebs get beaten so easily with skill moves, it's like playing Volta instead of pro clubs.
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ANY as defence is ridiculously easy to play against, those 80 rated plebs get beaten so easily with skill moves, it's like playing Volta instead of pro clubs.
I’d say that’s true most of the time, while if you meet the guys who played any from my old teams you’d be lucky to score once, no matter the division you’re in. The update to possible different tactics a few versions ago made it very possible to adjust for the situations you are talking about. We usually have at least one player in every third of the pitch anyway.
On pro clubs it seems like if you don’t make a key pass every second your rating will stay at 6.0 and continuously decline for NO apparent reason
Yeah it’s stupid. They need to revamp those ratings. Had 4 interceptions, 2 tackles, 1 block and 100% passing. 7.3mr….
Stuck in fut div 6 hell. Getting close to that point every year where I switch over to seasons and career mode. Does anyone now if they fixed the contract issue in be a pro where effectively your contract never runs out.
Honestly stay there. I'm in div 4 atm and all you play are 5 atb bore fest, god knows who's responsible for it but today 6 out of about 9 games where all 5 atb snoozes. Was trying to get div 1 asap but will probably be hard stuck here for a while, fut champs can't come soon enough.
So had a few days to play this. Was only on FUT until yesterday, until I got online with clubs.
FUT positives:
* I like the new chemistry system. Hopefully by having players on 0 chem points when out of position will reduce the number of players having strikers in midfield, Walker at cb etc…
* With the game being less about pace (until the patches change all that) it means being able to try different formations and players
* Moments looks like a good game mode too, although the rewards itself don’t seem too great
Negatives:
* pack luck - this is more personal after seeing some of your pulls but mine have been usless. 1 85 rated (Sule) and 1 87 rated (Maignan). Just makes every objective or milestone completed feel like a bit of a waste of time.
* AI - the ai are useless, always out of position, terrible runs and often static. The goalkeepers spend more time diving the wrong direction than making saves, which makes each game a shoot-out.
As for clubs, we prefer to play with an any. We are normally 2 sometimes 3. Last year my Brother played exclusively as any, with his pro as a striker and me at CAM. This year we have decided to switch every few games. Always tough defending with the non-pro players, especially in the early divisions when they are all such low rated but overall it is a great mode - competitive but also chilled.
FUT positives:
* I like the new chemistry system. Hopefully by having players on 0 chem points when out of position will reduce the number of players having strikers in midfield, Walker at cb etc…
* With the game being less about pace (until the patches change all that) it means being able to try different formations and players
* Moments looks like a good game mode too, although the rewards itself don’t seem too great
Negatives:
* pack luck - this is more personal after seeing some of your pulls but mine have been usless. 1 85 rated (Sule) and 1 87 rated (Maignan). Just makes every objective or milestone completed feel like a bit of a waste of time.
* AI - the ai are useless, always out of position, terrible runs and often static. The goalkeepers spend more time diving the wrong direction than making saves, which makes each game a shoot-out.
As for clubs, we prefer to play with an any. We are normally 2 sometimes 3. Last year my Brother played exclusively as any, with his pro as a striker and me at CAM. This year we have decided to switch every few games. Always tough defending with the non-pro players, especially in the early divisions when they are all such low rated but overall it is a great mode - competitive but also chilled.
Thought the whole point of the position modifyer was that I could put any player anywhere. Kinda dumb you now can't turn a cm.in either cam or cdm. So they took that away? Wth
The idea is that it's now specific to players - so they can swap between positions that they actually play. Turning a CM into a CDM or CF or ST is less important now that player links aren't a thing anymore.
It makes sense how they did it, but they didn't give some players enough options. Basically now you can make someone like Sancho LW or RW, or Rashford LW or ST, but you can't turn a ST into a CDM or vice versa.
Well did some SBCs today and had some good pack luck for my starter PL team. Packed Casemiro, Walker and Bernardo Silva all untradable. Seriously lacking a striker though but still a decent haul.
Ok AI defending on clubs is actually shite because it’s just always perfect. Even with 4 front pressing players they all play out with inch perfect passes. The back four are always in a nice straight line and you’ve never got any space on the wing. If they get near you it’s pretty much an auto tackle so the only way to score is to pass it around multiple times which is too much to ask from a random group of players which includes midgets with afros.
Why would you want to turn a ST into a CDM?
For chemistry purposes - it used to be players had to have links to each other according to their position on the pitch, so having a ST start at CDM would allow him to link to your RB & RCB for instance. They'd actually play striker in game.
AI defending does seem v good!
I played a number of drop-in games earlier and actually really enjoyed it. Granted, some players do try and dribble through everyone, but I always tend to stay on the wing in space and then make quick passes anyway
People would put Mbappe as cdm to fit him into their squad for Chem purposes before and then do quick tactics to move him top (or whatever it used to be).
Why do you all keep ploughing money in to FUT?
No wonder there’s been zero motivation for them to make meaningful improvements to the game mechanics and offline play.
Talk about being part of the problem!
No wonder there’s been zero motivation for them to make meaningful improvements to the game mechanics and offline play.
Talk about being part of the problem!
Don't think anyone's mentioned FP once in here.
fifa points.
I understand. I misunderstood you. In my view it isn't needed anymore in Fifa 23. Provided that most players have enough options.
You basically have to attack like it’s Rugby. Playing it sideways across a perfectly straight defensive line.
I used to be quite good at Fifa. I quit the Fifa where Ryan Kent was in every team. Not because of that, I just remember.
I was often close to top 100 and usually Elite in the weekend league. I stopped spending any money though and found it difficult whereas in the past you were rewarded by playing.
I went back to Fifa this year and the game play hasn’t taken a significant improvement for me. There are still significant elements which are annoying although I haven’t conceded a goal from kick off. It has taken 20 years but have they sorted this?
I haven’t lost a game in rivals yet and made my way up to division 5. I had Fifa points at the start as I purchased the Ultimate Edition.
From tradable packs I have packed absolutely nothing. Untradable I have Neymar and Kante. The rest of team isn’t too great though but it’s okay and entirely untradable.
Ramsdale, Mendes (PSG), Akanji totw, Thiago Silva flashback, Reece James. Kante, Soler (PSG) and totw Trossard. Neymar, otw objective Richarlison and Saka.
I don’t really mess about with custom tactics but I’ll have a look into this. I like switching formation though. I like 4222, 433 with a cam and 41212 wide. A lot of auto blocking so wide formations have been great.
My wife is in her final year of Uni so we have scaled back on weekend stays everywhere so this passes time.
Any cheap hidden gems anyone would recommend?
Saka is garbage
Ramsdale is crap
Soler is rubbish
Richarlison is ok but clunky
I probably have about 50k so not much to go with. I won’t play squad battles unless I have objectives to complete. They’re soul destroying. Online rivals or objectives in friendlies. I won 7/8 on that cup for packs which was harder than rivals. Some incredible teams already although the one which beat me was similar to mine, just a better player.
I was often close to top 100 and usually Elite in the weekend league. I stopped spending any money though and found it difficult whereas in the past you were rewarded by playing.
I went back to Fifa this year and the game play hasn’t taken a significant improvement for me. There are still significant elements which are annoying although I haven’t conceded a goal from kick off. It has taken 20 years but have they sorted this?
I haven’t lost a game in rivals yet and made my way up to division 5. I had Fifa points at the start as I purchased the Ultimate Edition.
From tradable packs I have packed absolutely nothing. Untradable I have Neymar and Kante. The rest of team isn’t too great though but it’s okay and entirely untradable.
Ramsdale, Mendes (PSG), Akanji totw, Thiago Silva flashback, Reece James. Kante, Soler (PSG) and totw Trossard. Neymar, otw objective Richarlison and Saka.
I don’t really mess about with custom tactics but I’ll have a look into this. I like switching formation though. I like 4222, 433 with a cam and 41212 wide. A lot of auto blocking so wide formations have been great.
My wife is in her final year of Uni so we have scaled back on weekend stays everywhere so this passes time.
Any cheap hidden gems anyone would recommend?
Saka is garbage
Ramsdale is crap
Soler is rubbish
Richarlison is ok but clunky
I probably have about 50k so not much to go with. I won’t play squad battles unless I have objectives to complete. They’re soul destroying. Online rivals or objectives in friendlies. I won 7/8 on that cup for packs which was harder than rivals. Some incredible teams already although the one which beat me was similar to mine, just a better player.
OTW Sterling is class so far for me and will fit your team, can't recommended him enough and will likely get some upgrades and could go out right to replace Saka. Renato Sanches is stupid too, probably be a bit more than 50k but he'd be a good upgrade on Soler. I bought his OTW and with a upgrade or two he'll be useable for a good couple of months.
From experience don't worry about keepers they're all useless, using Ter Stegen atm and i hate him. Jesus is still a player a face quite a bit too so you could get him, he can also play out right too and could replace Saka.
The game is decent at lower ratings when players have weaknesses and strengths. I was hopeful it would last a bit longer this year but those champions league cards feel like it’ll be 22 again and i’ll get bored around November. Every game is the same once you get those mini Gullit cards
Agree with this. I've got a midfield of Eriksen, Kimmich and Verratti right now and can enjoy passing it around nicely. But give it two weeks and there will be loads of cards that pass just as well and are also monsters for pace and power, judging by how it's going.
Also, that dribbling buff for lower rated players has already made half of Verratti's attributes redundant, since I can now pull off the same turns and tight control with just about anyone.
Jumped into a few games of Pro Clubs this afternoon. Was good. Went for CM and was generally averaging between 7 and 8. How does it work when you actually join a random club?
Can imagine 11 human players on the team would be absolute carnage.
Can imagine 11 human players on the team would be absolute carnage.
I started using Areola and he is far better than Ramsdale.
Yeah I need to somehow get Sterling. I want him but don’t have enough coins. I suppose it’ll be a grind and I will attempt to get him.
I’ve purchased 40 x John Stones at 850 coins. Praying for an 83requirement sbc to at least double the coins and go from there.
Hopefully you lot got your free hero card. Can't complain but only got Ljunberg myself.
It's been like this since the last FIFA. What happens is Ultimate Team players wine and complain to EA via twitter, EA make adjustments to the AI defending on the basis of overpowered cards, then when you step away from UT and play against AI defence in more regular modes you realise how OP the defending is because the adjustments are made on the premise of UT cards (97 pace, 90+ shooting etc) and not the general balance of the game overall.
The UT community is the sole reason why the past few titles for FIFA has been terrible. EA consistently patch their feedback into a product that is totally undesirable. Happens year in year out. Their most profitable venture is ultimately a liability when it comes to game dynamics which is why anyone should have remote interest in a footballing game. I hope the new gaming publishers making that upcoming game (UFL) breaks the monopoly that EA contend in.
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I just don't seem to get into this, feels absolutely generic. Hate this shit.
EA messed up and released a hero pack for 25k or 500fp. It was up for about 15 minutes so the market went ape shit, unfortunalty had the majority of my coins tied up in investments but manged to get Cole, Smolarek, Morientes and Gomez for about 300k.
This FIFA is shit. Online games are pretty much decided who gets the lucky break with lag at the right time
Having played this a bit now (until i gave up on it), from a single player point if view it is without doubt THE worst game I've ever spent money on. It is literally broken.
Every single game is 9-2 or 6-5 or something idiotic because you can just score by sprinting up the pitch with literally any player, and can't do anything about it if this happens to you either. You can't even fix it with the sliders.
I'm honestly astonished EA had the nerve to or were dumb enough release this. Not a chance in hell I'll be spending a penny on any of their games for a long long time amd tbh they should really be offering refunds. No Man's Sky for example was significantly less broken than this game.
Every single game is 9-2 or 6-5 or something idiotic because you can just score by sprinting up the pitch with literally any player, and can't do anything about it if this happens to you either. You can't even fix it with the sliders.
I'm honestly astonished EA had the nerve to or were dumb enough release this. Not a chance in hell I'll be spending a penny on any of their games for a long long time amd tbh they should really be offering refunds. No Man's Sky for example was significantly less broken than this game.
Is there any point in manual control players getting this game? FUT still refuses to have a control type filter, seasons the amount of other players is dropped a lot over the years and offline play is always a joke
Hilarious seeing everyone moan about the game and buy it every year. If it’s that predictably bad, why buy it?
I’m actually really enjoying it at the moment
Its effectively the only decent football game. Whilst I think the core gameplay is exactly the same as fifa 21, that its designed for FUT players that want to spam meta, the reality is there is no other football game on the market (lets not mention Efootball....). So if I want to play a football game, be able to play as united etc then this is the only game out there.
There is fun to be had in seasons, career mode and pro clubs. But you always end up realising how little effort they put into things that are not fut. For example not sure if its the same as last year but in career be a pro mode your contract never ran out at a club. Its something so basic yet is a small example of many examples that show EA does the bare minimum outside of FUT. Then when you do open FUT it has the most bells and whistles of any mode.
TLDR its the only playable football game out there and until something else pops up people like me who want to play a decent football game will probably buy it.
For me the money is worth it for the amount of games I get to play with mates in person over a year period. It’s significantly less annoying when you’re playing in that environment. Still allowed to complain about the rest of it though.