Its a shame that Robbie Savage wasn't a Mou player. SAF thought he was shite but Big Jose would have loved him
Fellaini | Mou: "It's easier for Galatasaray to get me than Marouane. He is too important to me."
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Its a shame that Robbie Savage wasn't a Mou player. SAF thought he was shite but Big Jose would have loved him
Delighted you're keeping your court jester.
He's not quite as good as bad as the haters make him out to be, but he is vividly symptomatic of what you've become and for that alone has entertainment value.
For non united fans that is.
He's not quite as good as bad as the haters make him out to be, but he is vividly symptomatic of what you've become and for that alone has entertainment value.
For non united fans that is.
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I keep dreaming of the day we sell him and that day isn't still arriving 
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.....Can anyone come up with a sensible reasoning of why Jose likes Fellaini so much ?
Well I'm no Fellaini fans but doesn't hate him either. Just vry curious wat Jose see in this guy.
TBF, performance aside, and despite all the hates towards him, Fellaini is a good lad. At least he doesn't moan when things go wrong. That's the only thing I like about him
Well I'm no Fellaini fans but doesn't hate him either. Just vry curious wat Jose see in this guy.
TBF, performance aside, and despite all the hates towards him, Fellaini is a good lad. At least he doesn't moan when things go wrong. That's the only thing I like about him
I can imagine. We felt the same when you gave new contracts to mignolet and lovren.
Have to say, I am a little bit shocked by Jose's comments.
Outside of a few occasional brain farts near the penalty box he is very disciplined player, a fighter, big game player, unique weapon. I can see why he is not willing to sell him. Also keep in mind that 10 mil is peanuts for established international player in this day and age.
No he does them in matches:
That is the greatest lob over an opponent's head, ever, fact.
Unintentional though it might be!
It's really funny when people praise him for not moaning. Imagine a player like Fellaini kicking up a fuss for not being a starter at one of the biggest clubs in the world.
It's not a big deal. Lot of you don't want him for well explained reasons, lot of us are ok with him staying. The manager is ok as well. He stays. He has his usefulness and we as a team aren't a free flowing fluid best in class United side who can get rid of players of Fellaini's mould right now. Our identity under Jose is a mix of grit and defensive nous rather than swashbuckling beautiful football. When and If we get there whether under Jose or anyone else, he and players like him will be moved on. Not now and rightfully so.
He feels like if he gets him playing well and the fans on his side, that he'll get a lot more credit than if he does the same with another player is the only explanation I see. When its talked about he has said that he follows orders, but when he plays and fails to track midfield runners etc. I cant imagine those are Mourinho's orders
You really believe that? His job is on the line and you think he cares about all these petty things?
Thinking (and hoping) the same
Innit. I do think he is as bad though. That other people seem to be a fan of him so much is a sure sign of fallen expectations for me, and people trying to be positive about anything as it makes them feel like a better fan.
He's had some of his better performances for us, particuarly under LvG playing against you lot, so i'm happy too.
I think he was scarred by his Real Madrid and Chelsea experiences where the players turned on him and now places an inordinate emphasis on loyalty and favours players who he perceives to be unlikely to "rebel". Even if they fail to track a runner or two in a lot of games.
This. He has overcompensated too much. Imagine even with the Trophies last season what we could have established if he knew the fans would back him being ruthless 100%
A player can still be frustrated at not getting consistent game time, regardless of their own ability and the club they are at. Footballers want to play football, and a lot of players don't want to be rotation options. Tomasz Kuszczak being a good example, who left on quite poor terms, claimed the club held his career back, even though he had Van Der Sar ahead of him. He left to play Championship football because he just wanted to play.
Fellaini will want to be playing football in a World Cup year, so if it turns out he feels he's not playing enough and he does want to leave to get that, it would be sensible.
For me, players who are both good enough and are happy to be utility players are very valuable. You need squad players.
I dont understand Jose but ok...
Thing is, Kuszczak was a backup goalkeeper who barely ever played and he wanted to play. Understandable. From both sides, actually, as our number one keeper was in a different dimension compared to him.
Fellaini, however, has no reason to kick up a fuss. He plays a LOT. He plays quite regularly. He starts lots of important games. He's not some patient backup player, happily sitting on the bench waiting for his limited opportunities. He has zero reason to be unhappy with his squad status - so him being content isn't really a virtue per se.
I love that response from Mourinho.
Like most people I'm not a fan of Fellaini as a starter, but as a squad player it's hard to deny that he's very useful. He always gives 100%, doesn't complain, does what he's told, and is a decent goal-threat on top of all this. His technique is also very underrated, imo.
Like most people I'm not a fan of Fellaini as a starter, but as a squad player it's hard to deny that he's very useful. He always gives 100%, doesn't complain, does what he's told, and is a decent goal-threat on top of all this. His technique is also very underrated, imo.
If you think Sir Alex would of backed a player who wasn't trying, just because they had talent, your living in a dream world
I think what's most depressing about this thread are the number of people saying it's a good option to have a big lump to come on and boot the ball up to. We are one of the richest clubs in the world, with a reputation for playing eye-catching football. In no way should we ever be keeping a player to give us a hoof ball option.
Fellaini leaving now is the right decision, once Matic has signed. If we get £10 million for him then that would be fantastic. Sadly, I think we will still be stuck with him (and the poor quality football he tends to cause) once the season starts.
Fellaini leaving now is the right decision, once Matic has signed. If we get £10 million for him then that would be fantastic. Sadly, I think we will still be stuck with him (and the poor quality football he tends to cause) once the season starts.
This thread just keeps delivering, all these posters now doing mental gymnastics to justify why Mourinho wants to keep him, so their opinion that he's useless can continue.
So now its, Mourinho wants to prove he can win with shit players like Fellaini is it? right, right.. thats why he's spent about 300mill on 7+ players and counting in the 1 season he's been here so far.
Ps. He's well aware a lot of Man Utd fans intensely dislike Fellaini, if the booing wasnt obvious enough a hint.
"With Fellaini I always have the feeling that he was not loved by the general Red people," Mourinho said. "But, if he plays like he’s playing now, they have to love him because he’s being so important for us."
So no, it's infact the opposite, he'd know he'd gain immediate brownie points shipping him out rather than keeping him/playing him.
The actual and only reason he's keeping Fellaini, is simply, since Mou's arrived, the player has put in more than a fair number of decent performances under him and has specific qualities that Mourinho finds useful to win games.
Simple as.
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Have I said that?
Just hope his contract doesn't get extended, I think he is entering his final year with us.
I do agree that Mourinho has placed a lot of importance and he has become a fairly prominent figure. I was speaking more generally that if Fellaini, or anybody, wanted to leave to be a start-every-game sort of player, then I don't think that would be that ridiculous. He gets his fair amount of game time, but you'd think he would be the main-man if he went to Turkey. I wouldn't blame him if he wanted to make that move. I don't think it's crazy for any player to want to be that sort of option, regardless of their own ability or the club they are currently at.
Last season, Fellaini played a lot at the beginning and at the end of the season, but there was a stretch between late October to March where he was only getting 10 minutes here and there, and the occasional last half hour. With Matic coming in and Pereira returning, Fellaini may think he might get less minutes (though Mourinho's quotes don't suggest that will be the case, but there's the possibility he's trying to ramp up the fee, who knows...).
In general, if Fellaini wanted to drop down a level and be the main man somewhere, playing every game with the team built around him, possibly even the captain, then I just don't think that would be that crazy. He's certainly good enough to do that at one of the Turkish clubs or elsewhere.
Whenever he plays, we end up pinging balls onto his head. And it so rarely works, it's painful.
I have constant flashbacks to Liverpool with Crouch
I have constant flashbacks to Liverpool with Crouch
I think he cares about the limelight more than other managers yes. He's the special one afterall.
Actually, he said “please don’t say I’m arrogant, because what I say is true. I am European champion, so I’m not…one of…of the bottle. I’m a…I think I’m a special one.”
The rags then altered this to "I'm the special one" and still use it to this day. Embarrassing, but that's the British media for you.
You completely ignored the point, congratulations.
If he can get the fans to like and appreciate Fellaini, he gets far more "genius points" than if he just took him out and didnt use him. If he did the latter all those fans would say finally, he'd get no credit for that because even the fans would do it.
If on the other hand he gets him playing very good football, even if it takes a long time with poor performances, eventually there would be a narrative that it was worth the wait and Mourinho was right.
Its not beyond the realms of possibility that Fellaini can play good football, in the right role. He's had a few games where he has done so. But the likehood of him doing it consistantly at this stage? Not so good and a little bit frustrating that some other players didnt get so many chances. But thats not Fellainis fault, hes only really responsible for what happens to himself.
Right. And the point is that thats his nickname, nothing more. He has that nickname because of how he behaved, taking the limelight as much as any of his stars.
He has that nickname because the British media twisted what he said and gave it to him. That, and being one of the most successful managers of all time.
So why didnt Sir Alex have a nickname like that? Or Wenger?
Its because hes different.
Late in a game when pumping the ball into the box is plan B, name me a more effective option from the bench.
Whether it's him on the end of the cross, him trapping a long ball with his chest or him just dragging defenders out of position at corners due to the threat he possesses, there's nobody like him!which makes £10 Million offers for him not worth listening to.
Whether it's him on the end of the cross, him trapping a long ball with his chest or him just dragging defenders out of position at corners due to the threat he possesses, there's nobody like him!which makes £10 Million offers for him not worth listening to.
Because neither had their words twisted by the British media and had a nickname bestowed upon them obviously.
I dont mind keeping him for the cup games here and there and for bullying some teams, plan D and limited use please
Thats a lot of strange rationalization just because you don't agree with the manager. Couldn't just be that your evaluation is wrong?
Moyes, LVG and now Mourinho all seem to appreciate him. It can't be a coincidence.
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