Yeah he did sell out, when he was hanging with Puff and stuff
but with Stillmtic he came back to his roots and I don't honestly think he sold out since
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Yeah he did sell out, when he was hanging with Puff and stuff
but with Stillmtic he came back to his roots and I don't honestly think he sold out since
Nas compromised his music,earlier fans and the direction and chracter his earlier career projects, in aid to achieve more. More money, more recognition and a bigger platform to sell his music.
Not because he 'couldn't' produce music like Illmatic. That to me is retarded.
Not because he 'couldn't' produce music like Illmatic. That to me is retarded.
every album since Stillmatic, he has kept it real, sacrificing sales in the process
he could still be rapping with Genuine and making songs like 'oochy wally wally'
but he hasn't, and that's why most of his fans from Illmatic still feck with him
These are n't the kind of tracks sell outs make
pure inspiration
So which artists are the exception to the rule then, haven't "sold out" and are still churning out the gold that they did in the '90s?
The artists who rep the Underground.
Thousands of them.
Thousands of them.
But what do you want Nas to do Hectic, not get his voice heard by the masses because it would be deemed not repping the underground
in your opinion, can you be a well known rapper and rep the underground at the same time? and if so, how?
So there's no-one in mainstream who fits your bill?
Come on, that's rubbish though.
Street's Disciple
Hip Hop Is Dead
Untitled
These albums are fillers. Barely anything in there 'kept it real'.
Hip Hop is Dead was wank IMO.
I fecking loved Street's DiscipleThis is that illshit!
Untitled he had some sort of message in there, it certaintly wasn't a commercial project, I didn't like the album much though
although that track Fried Chicken with Busta, I don't know anybody who does't like that
ok Hip Hop is Dead was pretty wank and he actully teamed up with...sigh....WillIAM
Okay, I give you Thief's Theme, yes that was a heavy track.
That's my point, those albums weren't the Nas we grew up with. Fair enough, nothing is like Illmatic, but It was Written, Stillmatic, they still had certain styles and expectations. These albums didn't live up to those at all apart from a couple tracks on each one.
That's my point, those albums weren't the Nas we grew up with. Fair enough, nothing is like Illmatic, but It was Written, Stillmatic, they still had certain styles and expectations. These albums didn't live up to those at all apart from a couple tracks on each one.
Personally I don't really care whether someone is real or not. For me Hip Hop means entertainment and getting into the right mood.
Rappers with good lyrics that use intelligent word games and metaphorical language are as important as good beats.
Their background doesnt really bother me as long as they are not talking about beeing real as feck and beeing underground (and mean it) when they wouldnt lose out any opportunity to make money with their music.
Rappers with good lyrics that use intelligent word games and metaphorical language are as important as good beats.
Their background doesnt really bother me as long as they are not talking about beeing real as feck and beeing underground (and mean it) when they wouldnt lose out any opportunity to make money with their music.
did you like God's Son though?
This track is one of my fave rap songs of all time, a dedication to him mum that died
when I first heard this it almost bought tears to my eyes
and this track is reminscent for that story telling flow people loved Illmatic for
Oh and my Book of Ryhmes! One of the best, original rap songs Nas ever done, God's Son was quite an album when I think about it!
That's why mother feckers like Blaq Poet are immortal and will never die.
He's been doing that shit since the 80's and I been listening since the 90's.
Not a god damn things changed in 2010.
He's been doing that shit since the 80's and I been listening since the 90's.
Not a god damn things changed in 2010.
Selling out or not, well for me it doesnt make any difference.
I just didnt like his style anymore and all his talk about hip hop beeing dead when he sold out himself wasn't right you know?
people in glass houses and so on
I liked about half of it, loved a few songs.
"Made You Look"
Zone Out
Heaven
"Last Real Nigga Alive"
Get Down
Zone out and obviously Made you Look are ridiculous.
Last Real Nigga Alive is just fecking epic!!!!, ok I'm off to Itunes!
I actually like 9th Wonder's remix of Made You Look slightly more than the original.
Yeah I understand
but that Hate me Now track with Puff talking all in the background and duringthe chorus, I'm sure Nas feels embarassed by it
and this stuff
You have to ask Nas what he was smoking! shit, atleast he's still lyrical
Jesus!
I actually like 9th Wonder's remix of Made You Look slightly more than the original.
Who liked Got Yourself a Gun?
Yea that was a banger, but I like most Nas stuff... even some of the 'corny' shit...
That's that Stillmatic shit, that was amazing
but I loved the intro, It just said I'M BACK
All that wack shit I was on, I'm sorry, this is the real me!
'Blood of a slave, heart of a king'
one of my friends actually got that tatted on himself
Banger is the word I would use to describe it too.
Damn, I wish I could go back to that period in rap where Jay Z dropped the Blueprint and Nas dropped Stillmatic in the same damn year!
I came to hip hop late, so I had the joys of listening to all these albums in the last 5-10 years. Its not the same as being there when they first dropped, but its pretty good being able to listen to albums that are considered greats for the first time.
Get Fashawn's - Ode To Illmatic album. It's like listening to the album for the first time and trying to work out what the feck Nas is saying. Only one song on the album that isn't an original.
Sometimes it's better, because nobody is making shit like they used to, I like listening to music that makes you travel back in time
Same as Boss. I feel like sometimes I'm listening to the holy grail of Hip-Hop when I find a certain track I haven't heard in years, or not at all. I would say about 80% of my collection is dated pre-95. I'm sort of glad I didn't grow up with the heart of it, even though I did, I just wasn't aware of it, because it leaves so much left to be found. Rather that, then to think I heard it all back then and things will never be as good, I'm comforted because I know there's so much more to find and even to this day, nearly 20 years later I can still find albums that will amaze me.
Who are you feeling right now?
K-Murdock - We will be calling him the best producer of our generation in 10 years.
Access Immortal
New LMNO - 7th album released this year!
Apollo Brown's not too bad
Some Freddie Gibbs for my daily dose of that real ignorant shit
Some oldies - Roc Marciano, Representativz, Styles of Beyond, Bahamadia, Nick Wiz
Access Immortal
New LMNO - 7th album released this year!
Apollo Brown's not too bad
Some Freddie Gibbs for my daily dose of that real ignorant shit
Some oldies - Roc Marciano, Representativz, Styles of Beyond, Bahamadia, Nick Wiz
The intro to Stillmatic was my favourite bit.
Styles of Beyond!
Bringing that real shit back.
Did you just say 7 albums in one year Hectic?!