FAO Those who own a PS3 AND a 360

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I currently have a PS3, which gets a lot of use.

I'm thinking about getting a 360 alongside that.

But for those who have both, which machine do you use and prefer?
 
I own both (and a wii) and the last machine I got was the 360. I use it way more than the others.

The PS3 as a console seems far more polished, but for gaming the way the xbox handles achievements makes gaming a lot of fun. Xbox LIVE is also a lot better than PSN. Larger community and more features assosciated with your gamertag vs. your PSN ID.

I've even found myself trading in PS3 games (Fallout 3 for example) and getting the xbox version. I just like the way the achievements work a lot better, and being a 'completionist' I get a lot more out of the game this way.
 
I have a PS3 and wee bro has a 360

360 seems to currently being the better gaming console, the PS3 is awesome technically and will kick the Xbox's ass very soon.

I'd go for PS3 just to be future proof and the fact I have 1 :D

you may as well buy one, sure they are cheap as feck at the minute and my brother seems to like his
 
PS3 is a better machine, but I think it missed the boat with this generation of consoles. Xbox got too big of a jump, and even with RROD, the pricing and huge userbase makes it ideal for console gaming imo.

PS3 is probably a little bit too expensive for most people, and for Xmas gifts etc. probably out of reach of most families. It's a shame, because like I stated earlier, it is far more polished and potentially a hell of a lot better.
 
GazM said:
I have a PS3 and wee bro has a 360

360 seems to currently being the better gaming console, the PS3 is awesome technically and will kick the Xbox's ass very soon.

I'd go for PS3 just to be future proof
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Already got the PS3.

If I can get the money together I fancy getting a 360, mainly because there is a vast back catalogue of games on the system. The idea of paying for online gaming sucks though.
 
Yeah it sucks, but honestly it's worth it. A much larger community and the way it handles online gaming is much better than ps3.
 
i own one of the consoles, but ill give you a fair breakdown

but if you're satisfied with your ps3, gamewise and livewise, stick with it and skip the xbox. but if you feel like you're missing out on some games, or live-experience you should take a look at the xbox. the ps3 has stronger hardwares, but both consoles are equal in terms of graphical output. the xbox has been out for a longer time and has signed some exclusive contracts and has therefore, according to many, a better arsenal of games.

if i had a ps3, i would either stick to it, or to sell it and buy an xbox (i won't say what i would have done as im trying to be unbiased). there's no use having both consoles.

if you like to download games, you should definately go for the xbox.
 
Maestro Minded said:
i own one of the consoles, but ill give you a fair breakdown

but if you're satisfied with your ps3, gamewise and livewise, stick with it and skip the xbox. but if you feel like you're missing out on some games, or live-experience you should take a look at the xbox. the ps3 has stronger hardwares, but both consoles are equal in terms of graphical output. the xbox has been out for a longer time and has signed some exclusive contracts and has therefore, according to many, a better arsenal of games.

if i had a ps3, i would either stick to it, or to sell it and buy an xbox (i won't say what i would have done as im trying to be unbiased). there's no use having both consoles.

if you like to download games, you should definately go for the xbox.
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At the minute maybe, not in the near future, the PS3 will kick ass
 
How much of a future is there? People have been saying for ages that the PS3 will vastly improve, but it's just not happened yet. When's the next generation due?
 
GazM said:
At the minute maybe, not in the near future, the PS3 will kick ass
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the ps3 will never be able to outperform the xbox360 graphical wise. it has already been proven many times.

basically the ps3's cpu and memory architecture has too many bottlenecks which limits the amount of textures that can be loaded into the memory at the same time and the amount of polygons that can be renderred.

however, with the errors eventually fixed in ps4 the result will be damaging.

mind though that microsoft will have all the time in the world to counter this with a new xbox release.


i guess now it's obvious what console i have, but you forced my hand.
 
GazM said:
I have a PS3 and wee bro has a 360

360 seems to currently being the better gaming console, the PS3 is awesome technically and will kick the Xbox's ass very soon.

I'd go for PS3 just to be future proof and the fact I have 1 :D

you may as well buy one, sure they are cheap as feck at the minute and my brother seems to like his
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To be fair Sony and their fan boys have been saying that for the last three years.
 
For the last year I wasn't sure whether to buy a 360 seeing as I had a PS3, but once I made my purchase (after the price cuts) I honestly don't regret it one bit. I get much more enjoyment out of my 360 than I ever did out of my PS3. Xbox LIVE and achievements are just so much better on xbox than the ps3 equilivant.
 
Maestro Minded said:
i own one of the consoles, but ill give you a fair breakdown
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This proves to be anything but 'fair', if we're being honest.
but if you're satisfied with your ps3, gamewise and livewise, stick with it and skip the xbox. but if you feel like you're missing out on some games, or live-experience you should take a look at the xbox.
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So you're saying people should take a look at the 360 so they can pay £40 for an online service, and play a few games that are not available on the PS3? How about not paying to play online, and experiencing games owners of the 360 will not play?

the ps3 has stronger hardwares, but both consoles are equal in terms of graphical output. the xbox has been out for a longer time and has signed some exclusive contracts and has therefore, according to many, a better arsenal of games.
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Again, Uncharted looks better than anything I've seen on 360, and KillZone 2 will outdo anything the 360 does by far.

if you like to download games, you should definately go for the xbox.
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This is just retarded. The PS Store may not have as many games as Marketplace does, but the quality of games on offer are much better; and at a reasonable price.
 
esmufc07 said:
So you're saying people should take a look at the 360 so they can pay £40 for an online service, and play a few games that are not available on the PS3? How about not paying to play online, and experiencing games owners of the 360 will not play?
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Of course it would apply both ways, he is speaking from the perspective that the OP has a PS3 and is thinking about getting a 360.

This is just retarded. The PS Store may not have as many games as Marketplace does, but the quality of games on offer are much better; and at a reasonable price
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I think he is talking piracy here.
 
ps3 is a great machine, however, the 360 is much more fun...which i guess is the point of a console?
 
I wouldn't pay 50 quid for an X Box 360 because it will break. Irrespective of anything else. The PS 3 may be shorter on games (Little Big planet is great mind) at the moment but it gives so much more with the BluRay player and the excellent media steaming abilities which I use all the time.

I can't actually believe that game gimps have allowed Microsoft to get any sort of lead in the current console "wars".

you all claim to hate Microsoft but then happily shell money out to them for a substandard (in terms of hardware reliability) item and then stick with them when they eventually deign to fix the problems they created (until it breaks again). Any other consumer item would have died a death if someone had released something so unreliable.

I suppose the only parallel was when people kept buying ipods early on when they were restrictive and unreliable (battery issues mainly).
 
Problem is people were itching for a new gaming console after the PS2, and at the time, the 360 blew anything else out of the water. Sony released the PS3 too late, and the majority of people couldn't wait so they got an xbox. If they had simultaneous releases, the PS3 would've murdered it based on reputation alone.

By now people have already built up their game libraries, and with the relative cheapness of the Xbox vs. the PS3, people are happy to accept their console "might" break as the pro's outweigh the con's. RROD is horseshit and totally unacceptable, but for now it's a gamble a lot of people are willing to take due to PS3's absurd price, and honestly, substandard game library (mostly due to the jump MS got on the PS3), and poor online capabilities.

As previously stated, the PS3 is a much better console/entertainment unit, but for gaming the Xbox wins. I think PS3 missed the boat, imo, and the only thing that can save it now is a comparable price to the Xbox. But with the hardware in the PS3, is that possible? Families, young adults and kids simply cannot afford the PS3 for the most part - and it's killing Sony and a trajedy for the gaming industry.
 
All good points. I think the PS3 is a superior machine to the 360, but in terms of games available, the 360 beats it hands down, hence why I'm thinking about getting one. I do seriously resent having to pay to play online though, no matter how high the standard is.
 
Leethal said:
Problem is people were itching for a new gaming console after the PS2, and at the time, the 360 blew anything else out of the water. Sony released the PS3 too late, and the majority of people couldn't wait so they got an xbox. If they had simultaneous releases, the PS3 would've murdered it based on reputation alone.
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This.

I owned a PS2 and the sheer playability and reliability (had it for 5 years and didn't have a single problem) of the machine would have meant that I wouldn't have even considered buying an xbox 360 when I eventually did in 2006 if the PS3 had come out at the same time. Unfortunately it was delayed and by the time it was released, considering it's collosal price tag as well, I just wasn't prepared to purchase that as well as the Xbox.
 
esmufc07 said:
This proves to be anything but 'fair', if we're being honest.


So you're saying people should take a look at the 360 so they can pay £40 for an online service, and play a few games that are not available on the PS3? How about not paying to play online, and experiencing games owners of the 360 will not play?



Again, Uncharted looks better than anything I've seen on 360, and KillZone 2 will outdo anything the 360 does by far.



This is just retarded. The PS Store may not have as many games as Marketplace does, but the quality of games on offer are much better; and at a reasonable price.
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how stupid can you be?? re-read my post carefully.

I don't know if Uncharted looks better on the PS3, but i know this:

Round 1, December 2006, XBOX WINS
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6162742/index.html

Round 2, June 2007, XBOX WINS
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6171831/index.html

Round 3, May 2008, XBOX WINS
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6191251/index.html

Round 4, November 2008, XBOX WINS
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6201700/index.html

So far:

Xbox360 - PS3 = 4-0


The "victories" werent by a very big margin though, BUT the XBOX continues to show better graphics on multi platform games.

Remember though that I implied that graphics-wise they were equal. If i was a "fanboy" i would have nailed this post on everybody's face the moment i saw this thread.

btw.. do you really not understand what i mean with "download games"...? i dont feel like spelling it out.
 
Uncharted and KZ2 aren't cross platform mate, multi-platform games tend to look better on the 360 (can explain why if necessary). Comparing 1st party games, PS3 wins on quality and 360 wins on quantity.

To the OP, if you can afford it go for it. I don't think it will be the 'top' console for much longer though.
 
Leethal said:
Debatable. And that's down to the art team, not the console's capabilities.
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Dynamic full world soft shadows in an HDR environment at 720p are not down to art teams. Halo 3 couldn't do it. It's all too easy to put things down to "art" when it has nothing at all to do with art. The XB360 could pull of Uncharted, but I've not seen a game on the XB360 yet that has the texture resolution of Uncharted in an HDR environment at 720p and 2xAA (Gears of War 2 is the closest up to now, but still not quite). Killzone 2 is a totally different matter.
 
Leethal said:
Problem is people were itching for a new gaming console after the PS2, and at the time, the 360 blew anything else out of the water. Sony released the PS3 too late, and the majority of people couldn't wait so they got an xbox. If they had simultaneous releases, the PS3 would've murdered it based on reputation alone.
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I would rather Sony released the PS3 late, treat their customers with respect, and released a top quality console, rather than buy a console which was rushed to market purely for money. Ironically, they've probably lost all that money due to the RROD.

By now people have already built up their game libraries, and with the relative cheapness of the Xbox vs. the PS3, people are happy to accept their console "might" break as the pro's outweigh the con's. RROD is horseshit and totally unacceptable, but for now it's a gamble a lot of people are willing to take due to PS3's absurd price, and honestly, substandard game library (mostly due to the jump MS got on the PS3), and poor online capabilities.
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You consider £299 absurd? With the VAT Cut a bit cheaper aswell. You can even buy it direct from Sony for £249, yet you think that is absurd? Consider what you get, it's a fantastic price.

Substandard games library; what a joke. What does the 360 have the PS3 does not? Halo? Fable? Gears? Both consoles have a fantastic and varied library. And, if anything, Sony have by far the better exclusives available to the PS3.

I don't know if Uncharted looks better on the PS3, but i know this:

Round 1, December 2006, XBOX WINS
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6162742/index.html

Round 2, June 2007, XBOX WINS
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6171831/index.html

Round 3, May 2008, XBOX WINS
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6191251/index.html

Round 4, November 2008, XBOX WINS
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6201700/index.html
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December 2006:lol:

Mind telling me how long the PS3 had been out for then? Even in June 2007, it had been available barely 6 months. Of course games are going to look slightly better on the 360 you numpty.

btw.. do you really not understand what i mean with "download games"...? i dont feel like spelling it out.
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My apologies, I misunderstood.
 
esmufc07 said:
I would rather Sony released the PS3 late, treat their customers with respect, and released a top quality console, rather than buy a console which was rushed to market purely for money. Ironically, they've probably lost all that money due to the RROD.



You consider £299 absurd? With the VAT Cut a bit cheaper aswell. You can even buy it direct from Sony for £249, yet you think that is absurd? Consider what you get, it's a fantastic price.

Substandard games library; what a joke. What does the 360 have the PS3 does not? Halo? Fable? Gears? Both consoles have a fantastic and varied library. And, if anything, Sony have by far the better exclusives available to the PS3.



December 2006:lol:

Mind telling me how long the PS3 had been out for then? Even in June 2007, it had been available barely 6 months. Of course games are going to look slightly better on the 360 you numpty.



My apologies, I misunderstood.
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how about june 2007, may 2008 and november 2008 (which is only 1 month ago)...?:rolleyes:
 
Maestro Minded said:
how about june 2007, may 2008 and november 2008 (which is only 1 month ago)...?:rolleyes:
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June 2007 the PS3 had been available for 7 months, whereas the 360 had been out approaching 2 years. If games are being developed on the 360 first, then ported over to a console developers are still getting used to, do you honestly think the PS3 is going to out-perform it?
 
Do I really have to explain why multi platform games for the most part perform better on the XB360 at the current moment?

Hint: It has nothing to do with the actual power of either console, but rather the way that they are set up in terms of architecture.
 
esmufc07 said:
June 2007 the PS3 had been available for 7 months, whereas the 360 had been out approaching 2 years. If games are being developed on the 360 first, then ported over to a console developers are still getting used to, do you honestly think the PS3 is going to out-perform it?
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multi platform games are NOT ported to the PS3. They were ported between november 2006 and beginning of 2007 since companies didn't have the time to write all codes from zero for the PS3 launch. Basically, the multi platform games that came with the launch were ported.

How about 2008?? ??

even if i follow you logic you're implying that ps3 will never reach xbox360's level on the multi platforms because of whatever reason you want to state.
 
Maestro Minded said:
multi platform games are NOT ported to the PS3.
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So, they write two completely different versions at the same time do they now at the end of 2008? No they don't. The problem becomes even worse if the game is to get a PC release at the same time.

Sorry, but you are talking a lot of nonsense here, probably most of which you have picked up over time from various internet forums with people talking an equal amount of similar nonsense.

The first thing to grasp here are the differences between the XCPU and the Cell on their basic design level. The XCPU (Xenon) consists of 3 identical run of the mill out of order Power cores each with 2 hardware threads on a single memory pool. This follows the model of symmetrical multi processing. The Cell on the ther hand consists of 1 run of the mill Power core called a PPE with 2 threads and 8 (in the PS3 it's actually 7) asymmetric cores called SPEs with their own 256KB of embedded RAM that are connected to each other on a ring bus.

The SPEs (the processor in these is called an SPU) cannot access the main memory for themselves, they cannot address the main RAM at all, and can only use their own 256KB blocks to store their own programs and the data those programs work upon. To get data to and fro from the main RAM they have to put in a DMA request. What this means is that you cannot simply write a program for the XCPU and PC type arcitecture and expect to recompile it and get it to work well on a CPU such as the Cell. Yes, it will work, but you will come seriously undone. Because each SPU can only work on the data and program running in its own 256KB of RAM, software has to be specifically designed to deal with those limits. If it is not, half the time (if the software is using the SPUs at all) will be spent on dumping data in and out of the SPU 256KB RAM in some kind of random fashion. It's also not the data but the code, but that's a bit complicated for a forum such as this.

Now, before someone brings up bandwidth or something similar to argue that the Cell is broken, they should first tell me this. The XB360 video codecs run on both XCPU and XGPU (Xenos) - the whole system, and it currently cannot decode a 1920x1080 video stream at 60 frames per second. Cell on its own can decode 12 FULL HD video streams at 30 frames per second, which would be 6 at 60 frames per second. Not many 60fps video exist as it's not in the Blu-ray specifications (mainly due to films being shot at 24fps), but that is beside the point. Getting data in and out of the SPUs is not slow, but the trick is getting it in and out in the most optimal manner, and it is this where multi platform games totally fail due to them being designed in software engineering terms for a symmetrical model of multi-processing. In fact it's a testiment to how good the PS3 is that under such circumstances it competes with XB360 on such a level at all and that multi-platform games are so close to each other now.

If you require any clarification of the above then I'm happy to provide it.
 
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