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I fecking hated Denna. Never read a book and invested so much bad feeling towards a character before :lol: she just really grinds my gears, stupid woman.

I really enjoyed he Kingkiller Chronicles and read through them way too fast. Before the third comes out (any news on that, by the way?) I need to sit down and reread them properly giving them the time they deserve.

Mistborn was equally incredible. It dragged a little in the 2nd book but so did the Kingkiller Chronicles with the stuff in the forest with Felurian. I don't know how I'd choose what one would be better... Probably Mistborn by a tiny amount.

Kingkiller, GoT, Mistborn, Powder Mage, Bartimaeus... He'll even Artimis Fowl. Lucky enough to have read some really entertaining fantasy series. Now looking forward to starting Assasins Apprentice next.
 
I fecking hated Denna. Never read a book and invested so much bad feeling towards a character before :lol: she just really grinds my gears, stupid woman.

I really enjoyed he Kingkiller Chronicles and read through them way too fast. Before the third comes out (any news on that, by the way?) I need to sit down and reread them properly giving them the time they deserve.

Mistborn was equally incredible. It dragged a little in the 2nd book but so did the Kingkiller Chronicles with the stuff in the forest with Felurian. I don't know how I'd choose what one would be better... Probably Mistborn by a tiny amount.

Kingkiller, GoT, Mistborn, Powder Mage, Bartimaeus... He'll even Artimis Fowl. Lucky enough to have read some really entertaining fantasy series. Now looking forward to starting Assasins Apprentice next.
I wish I could read the Robin Hobb books for the first time once more, such great books. Really enjoyed Powder Mage and Mistborn as well, haven't read the others you've listed :p
 
I fecking hated Denna. Never read a book and invested so much bad feeling towards a character before :lol: she just really grinds my gears, stupid woman.

I really enjoyed he Kingkiller Chronicles and read through them way too fast. Before the third comes out (any news on that, by the way?) I need to sit down and reread them properly giving them the time they deserve.

Mistborn was equally incredible. It dragged a little in the 2nd book but so did the Kingkiller Chronicles with the stuff in the forest with Felurian. I don't know how I'd choose what one would be better... Probably Mistborn by a tiny amount.

Kingkiller, GoT, Mistborn, Powder Mage, Bartimaeus... He'll even Artimis Fowl. Lucky enough to have read some really entertaining fantasy series. Now looking forward to starting Assasins Apprentice next.
Considering that you loved Mistborn, I don't think there is a single reason why you shouldn't read Wheel Of Time.
 
Considering that you loved Mistborn, I don't think there is a single reason why you shouldn't read Wheel Of Time.

I got one, it is slow-paced (well the first book was). And more books too.
 
Considering that you loved Mistborn, I don't think there is a single reason why you shouldn't read Wheel Of Time.
That's like saying Lord of the Rings and Riyria would appeal to the same people, from what I know of the two series. :confused:
 
Not really. It is like saying that ASOIAF is similar with The First Law.
Hmm... :confused:

What similarities are there between WoT and Mistborn that would make fans of one so likely to enjoy the other? They've always seemed like their appeal is completely different.
 
Hmm... :confused:

What similarities are there between WoT and Mistborn that would make fans of one so likely to enjoy the other? They've always seemed like their appeal is completely different.
Heavily concentrated on building a magic system.

Good vs Evil, not many gray characters.

Prophecies which are important.

The chosen one.

Basically, the same main antagonist.

Mucho violento, no sex, no swearing.

Brandon Sanderson became a writer because of WoT and was influenced from it. In turn, the ending of WoT was influenced from Mistborn. Btw, Sanderson got WoT job cause Jordans widow liked Mistborn and thought they are quite similar.
 
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Heavily concentrated on building a magic system.

Good vs Evil, not many gray characters.

Prophecies which are important.

The chosen one.

Basically, the same main antagonist.

Mucho violento, no sex, no swearing.

Brandon Sanderson became a writer because of WoT and was influenced from it. In turn, the ending of WoT was influenced from Mistborn. Btw, Sanderson got WoT job cause Jordans widow liked Mistborn and thought they are quite similar.
Yeah to me that generally sounds like background stuff. The actual content of the novel and the experience of reading it can still be hugely different, and someone could enjoy one and not the other. :/
 
Yeah to me that generally sounds like background stuff. The actual content of the novel can still be hugely different, and someone could enjoy one and not the other. :/
Probably. Anyway, I think that someone who enjoys Tolkien, has a high chance of enjoying Jordan and Sanderson. Similarily, someone who enjoys Martin, likely will enjoy Abercrombie, Cook, Kay, Erikson and probably Lawrence. And someone who enjoyed Kingkiller Chronicles likely will enjoy The Raven's Shadow or Harry Potter.

They aren't the same and the quality is different (Mistborn/The First law aren't as good/complex/well writen as WoT/ASOIAF) but they share many things.
 
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Which is the best Sanderson book? I've heard high praise for The Way of Kings, but don't know much about the author's works. Really enjoyed the last three WoT books so want to read more by this author.
 
Which is the best Sanderson book? I've heard high praise for The Way of Kings, but don't know much about the author's works. Really enjoyed the last three WoT books so want to read more by this author.
The Gathering Storm and A Memory of Light are far better than Mistborn books (Towers of Midnight IMO is worse). Everyone says that from his original books. The Way of Kings is his best but I am not planning to start an another series which won't finish for another 20 years. I'll read them when he has published at least 5 books (which would be the middle of the series).
 
Sorry @Revan Have to disagree. They are poles apart.

They have vague similarities here and there but you can do that for any series.

The feel and setup of the two are totally different. For every similarity there are probably 2 major differences. Mistborn is a very easy to read series and doesn't require much effort on part of the reader. WoT is the opposite.
 
Which is the best Sanderson book? I've heard high praise for The Way of Kings, but don't know much about the author's works. Really enjoyed the last three WoT books so want to read more by this author.

Mistborn has the advantage to be fast-paced and finished. Well if you don't count the other books coming in other ages of the same world. It's my favourite work of Sanderson, maybe because I am... relatively impatient.

The "one-shots" are interesting but I didn't find them as exciting than Mistborn. One of them Warbreaker can be downloaded free from Sanderson's website. I am probably in the minority by thinking The way of kings was incredibly slow and it didn't help that it has many prologues, so it may not be the best one to start his original stories.
 
Probably. Anyway, I think that someone who enjoys Tolkien, has a high chance of enjoying Jordan and Sanderson. Similarily, someone who enjoys Martin, likely will enjoy Abercrombie, Cook, Kay, Erikson and probably Lawrence. And someone who enjoyed Kingkiller Chronicles likely will enjoy The Raven's Shadow or Harry Potter.

They aren't the same and the quality is different (Mistborn/The First law aren't as good/complex/well writen as WoT/ASOIAF) but they share many things.
I'm definitely with @akash02, to me there's a massive difference. I agree that there are similarities, but there are also major differences. To me, the similarities are superficial, while the differences are in key areas that would make me place them in different categories. For example, I would never recommend Sanderson to someone who wants to read something like Tolkien, there's just too much of a difference between the two.

Which is the best Sanderson book? I've heard high praise for The Way of Kings, but don't know much about the author's works. Really enjoyed the last three WoT books so want to read more by this author.
Start with The Emperor's Soul. It's a novella, and it shows off the same strengths that his novels usually have, without requiring as big a time commitment. If you like it, then Mistborn would be the next stop, then Stormlight. Those three all have the same feel, just with each one becoming more complex and in-depth, and as a result a little slower paced. His standalones aren't as good imo, in particular I really didn't enjoy Elantris.
 
I wish I could read the Robin Hobb books for the first time once more, such great books. Really enjoyed Powder Mage and Mistborn as well, haven't read the others you've listed :p

Sitting on the train about to start Assassins Apprentice now, should be good! Bartimaeus and Artemis Fowl are more teenage fiction but really entertaining nontheless. Bartimaeus in particular I think would make a great film series (the books are far better than the Hunger Games, for instance).

Considering that you loved Mistborn, I don't think there is a single reason why you shouldn't read Wheel Of Time.

I don't know. I've not read WoT (been given the series of books by a family friend though) but they seem very dense. Think I'd rather exhaust all the main series first before giving the first one a try.
 
Most people find the first Mistborn book the best, second worst, and third somewhere in the middle. It's definitely worth reading it imo. Assassin's Apprentice (and the rest of the series) are on a whole different level to Mistborn though, best fantasy books I've read. :)

Definitely it is worth to read it. Better than the second, slightly worse than the first. Very enjoyable and brings closure.

I can't stand leaving something unfinished, so defo read it. Miles better than the 2nd book.

I'm going to read it regardless. Just dependent on the order.
 
I have to agree there. Denna's extremely annoying. Also Kingkiller series is a bit predictable. Name of the Wind was excellent but I didn't like book two half as much. Here's my theory for what's in store in book three.

Kvothe will probably change his own name to Kote because of some tragedy or to avert more tragedy. His obsession with that prescient tree in the fae will probably lead him down this road.

Not much of a spoiler, your told that within the first few chapters of the first book.
Well not the tree part,

Hes telling a story about the chandrian, hes summoning them.

Tbh most of his history has at least been referred to at some point already. Its the details and how the story is told that makes it interesting imo.
His life tends to mimic a lot of the stories and songs that are told throughout the book too, so you could probably guess the vast majority of the events that take place through the rest of his life.
 
I wish I could read the Robin Hobb books for the first time once more, such great books. Really enjoyed Powder Mage and Mistborn as well, haven't read the others you've listed :p
What are the Robin Hobb books?
 
What are the Robin Hobb books?

Realm of Elderlings:

The Farseer, Tawny Man and Fitz & The Fool trilogies all follow Fitz, so they're essentially a continuous narrative. There are fairly big gaps between them, so a lot of stuff changes in the time in between. The first two are really good, and the first book of the third felt the same level of quality imo.

Liveships is set to the south of the Six Duchies, and there are only a small number of crossovers between the two. It's a brilliant series in its own right though, the setting is awesome, the characters and interrelationships are all really complex, and the plot is great. Since it's third-person with many viewpoints set in trading ports and tropical islands infested with pirates, it can be a bit of a jolt after reading Farseer and it's single first-person viewpoint set in a more northerly location!

The Rain Wilds Chronicles are set in (a small part of) the same place as Liveships, but follow new characters. Didn't enjoy them as much to be honest, though they're still fairly decent.
 
Has anyone ever read the Abhorsen books, by Garth Nix? They're great and well worth a read. a trilogy and a prequel book.
 
Sitting on the train about to start Assassins Apprentice now, should be good! Bartimaeus and Artemis Fowl are more teenage fiction but really entertaining nontheless. Bartimaeus in particular I think would make a great film series (the books are far better than the Hunger Games, for instance).
Cool, might give them a go at some point, though I don't usually read much YA. :p

Has anyone ever read the Abhorsen books, by Garth Nix? They're great and well worth a read. a trilogy and a prequel book.
Yeah they're pretty good, really interesting world. Didn't think the prequel was quite as good as the originals, but fairly decent anyway. :)
 
Just finished Assassins Apprentice

Really good read. I thought the very vague blurb made the book sound more dull than mysterious, but 40 pages in and I was hooked. Want to know more about this Wit that Fitz has, I presume his mums identity will be very important.

I was gutted when Nosy died at first, then he was replaced with Smithy but then he died, then they brought Nosy back before he died again too :( They make the connection with animals so human and vivid, it's horrible when they die.

Got the next two books already, going straight into them
 
Just finished Assassins Apprentice

Really good read. I thought the very vague blurb made the book sound more dull than mysterious, but 40 pages in and I was hooked. Want to know more about this Wit that Fitz has, I presume his mums identity will be very important.

I was gutted when Nosy died at first, then he was replaced with Smithy but then he died, then they brought Nosy back before he died again too :( They make the connection with animals so human and vivid, it's horrible when they die.

Got the next two books already, going straight into them

I think I almost cried when Smithy died:(

The human-animal interaction is one of the best things about the books so far. Gets better as well.
 
Just finished Assassins Apprentice

Really good read. I thought the very vague blurb made the book sound more dull than mysterious, but 40 pages in and I was hooked.
I think I read somewhere that two ideas sparked off the whole series/setting: "What if magic was addictive, and the addiction was totally destructive?" and "Cliches exist because on a very deep level they speak to all of us". The second of those means that any attempt at summarising will make it sound like a really shallow and stereotypical story, when in fact it really isn't. :D

Want to know more about this Wit that Fitz has, I presume his mums identity will be very important.

I was gutted when Nosy died at first, then he was replaced with Smithy but then he died, then they brought Nosy back before he died again too :( They make the connection with animals so human and vivid, it's horrible when they die.

Got the next two books already, going straight into them
I think I almost cried when Smithy died:(

The human-animal interaction is one of the best things about the books so far. Gets better as well.
Yeah same, and it definitely does get stronger and stronger as the series goes on. In some ways Fitz's story is one of the most painful to read, because you end up really caring about the characters and then horrible stuff happens to them. There are a couple of scenes in one of the later books where it's almost impossible not to cry, and big sections of the third book make me feel incredibly sad. So worth it though.

I'm reading Retribution Falls, which is the first steampunk book I've bothered to try. Really good so far. It's basically about a group of pirates who fly around in an airship. Tons of action and conflict, generally a hell of a lot more fun than I expected. :)
 
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I don't remember a cover getting me so hooked:

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I don't remember a cover getting me so hooked:

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Meh, the fire is too saturated, doesn't match the rest of the cover. Plus it'd be better if it didn't have shadows within the flames (unless weapons that are made out of shadow and flame exist in the book, which I doubt). Also, the title doesn't line up with the author's name. The typography doesn't really match what I've heard of Abercrombie either, I think the Half The World cover is much more polished and suits him a lot more. Fairly cool otherwise. :p

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Endymion (Hyperion Cantos #3) - I liked the first third of the book. It was quite nice to see how that part of the universe has evolved since the second book (250 years time difference). I also thought that the religion part of the book was excellently writen. I also quite liked Raul.

The main problem was that after a hundred of pages or so Raul meets Aenea (seriously what the hell is that name), the book goes to shit. The same repetitive boring stuff, all over again. It became quite a challenge to finish it considering that pretty much nothing happened until the end. Not sure that I liked the ending, neither the downgrade of The Shrike.

Father Captain De Soya was easily my favorite character on the book. Aenea should have been a few years older IMO (something like 16 instead of 12).

4/10

Now started the fourth book on the black company (first book on the south). Liking it so far. Will go back to Hyperion (final book) when I finish books of the south.
 
I gave up Red Rising. I found the hero too bland, then too annoying and I absolutely didn't care about the story. And though I usually rarely notice it in english books since english is my second language, I found the writing is sometimes awkward. It would be more entertaining for me to even reread any of the books Red Rising may have borrowed bits from Hunger Games to Harry Potter, Ender's games to Dune.
 
To be fair I think it's really quite difficult to write a fantasy story these days that doesn't borrow parts of its story from somewhere. Social castes, settings, good vs evil mechanisms, magical systems... It's hard to be fully original.

Spoken by a complete nobody who just has an idea for a fantasy plot and is trying to flesh it out without making it sound exactly like the latest book he's read.
 
Actually, the lack of originality wasn't the thing that annoyed me (or I would have been fed up way sooner with YA books), it was more the story was too forced for me at first, then I was more beginning to hate the main character who is such a special snowflake but has times when he's more a jerk.
 
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Finished Farseer:

Assassin's Apprentice:9/10
Royal Assassin:10/10
Assassin's Quest:8/10

I have to say I never got the feeling this was a trilogy. It reads like one big story broken down into three for the sake of convenience of readers. There's no specific plot threads in any of the books. None that I could grasp anyway. I was reading the Omnibus edition and was genuinely shocked when the the epilogue popped up in Assassin's Apprentice. I honestly thought I was about half way through the book at that point:lol:

The writing was superb. Had me hooked right from the off. Fitz's development was brilliant from start to finish was superb. He's a bit thick at times gets kicked all over the place by literally everyone but it doesn't feel like an overkill at any point. I liked the irony of how every single Farseer warned him about how he might be used by their enemies and yet the only one's to use him for their purposes were the Farseers. The best thing about the way he's written though is how it's allowed Robin Hobb to flesh out all the other characters without the need for separate PoV's (Though that might have made the story even better imo). One flaw/plot hole I thought was how the Rurisk death was handled. It was swept under the carpet way too easily. Because of the first person format of the books there were a few other characters I'd liked to have read more about. Patience wasn't in the 3rd book at all which was disappointing. Chade was another one who we didn't see much off.

Fitz's relationship with animals is astoundingly well written. Honestly, the Fitz-Nighteyes combo is perhaps the best thing about the series. The relationship between them is so wonderfully written and I swear Nigheyes is the funniest character in the series (Between him and fool anyway). Comes up with some hilarious one liners! Another relationship I liked in the series was the Fitz-Verity. A nice mixture of genuine affection for each other mixed with a great deal of loyalty.

The scene in the 2nd book where two forged one's are fighting over a baby and rip it apart:( Had to put the book down for a bit after that. Brutal stuff. The deaths of Nosy and Smithy were almost as bad. Was fearing the worst for Nighteyes while reading the 3rd book but that ended well!

The 3rd book is probably the worst of the lot. Really enjoyed reading it but I thought it could have been a wee bit shorter without losing anything plot wise. I liked the ending. Can't say I cared too much about Molly but was glad for Burrich. If anyone in the books deserved that, he was the one. The scene where he confronts Molly with the King's pin genuinely believing that Fitzi is dead was really sad.

The magic was nice. It looked very basic in how it was laid out in the first book but that's until we find out Galen was pretty much a fraud. This is the kind of magic I like best. Not very quantifiable (i.e x happens if you do y), mysterious and still powerful. Most of all, it was very well used in the books. A lot like ASOIAF I might add.

The plot was nothing special imo but did it's job. The dragons in the end was a nice touch and I liked how they went back to being stone after it was all done until the next time. A nice cyclical touch to the story re- Forging was initially done by the Elderlings albeit unintentionally. Verity disappearing into the dragon and Kettricken crying was a nice scene was well. Verity fecking Kettricken using Fitz's body on the other hand was creepy.

The politics is done very well. Only behind ASOIAF in that respect. The politics in most books is laughably crap i.e Mistborn or even WoT.

I love the naming system of Duchies:lol:

Hmm...that's all I can think off right now. Excellent series!
 
Finished Farseer:

Assassin's Apprentice:9/10
Royal Assassin:10/10
Assassin's Quest:8/10

I have to say I never got the feeling this was a trilogy. It reads like one big story broken down into three for the sake of convenience of readers. There's no specific plot threads in any of the books. None that I could grasp anyway. I was reading the Omnibus edition and was genuinely shocked when the the epilogue popped up in Assassin's Apprentice. I honestly thought I was about half way through the book at that point:lol:

The writing was superb. Had me hooked right from the off. Fitz's development was brilliant from start to finish was superb. He's a bit thick at times gets kicked all over the place by literally everyone but it doesn't feel like an overkill at any point. I liked the irony of how every single Farseer warned him about how he might be used by their enemies and yet the only one's to use him for their purposes were the Farseers. The best thing about the way he's written though is how it's allowed Robin Hobb to flesh out all the other characters without the need for separate PoV's (Though that might have made the story even better imo). One flaw/plot hole I thought was how the Rurisk death was handled. It was swept under the carpet way too easily. Because of the first person format of the books there were a few other characters I'd liked to have read more about. Patience wasn't in the 3rd book at all which was disappointing. Chade was another one who we didn't see much off.

Fitz's relationship with animals is astoundingly well written. Honestly, the Fitz-Nighteyes combo is perhaps the best thing about the series. The relationship between them is so wonderfully written and I swear Nigheyes is the funniest character in the series (Between him and fool anyway). Comes up with some hilarious one liners! Another relationship I liked in the series was the Fitz-Verity. A nice mixture of genuine affection for each other mixed with a great deal of loyalty.

The scene in the 2nd book where two forged one's are fighting over a baby and rip it apart:( Had to put the book down for a bit after that. Brutal stuff. The deaths of Nosy and Smithy were almost as bad. Was fearing the worst for Nighteyes while reading the 3rd book but that ended well!

The 3rd book is probably the worst of the lot. Really enjoyed reading it but I thought it could have been a wee bit shorter without losing anything plot wise. I liked the ending. Can't say I cared too much about Molly but was glad for Burrich. If anyone in the books deserved that, he was the one. The scene where he confronts Molly with the King's pin genuinely believing that Fitzi is dead was really sad.

The magic was nice. It looked very basic in how it was laid out in the first book but that's until we find out Galen was pretty much a fraud. This is the kind of magic I like best. Not very quantifiable (i.e x happens if you do y), mysterious and still powerful. Most of all, it was very well used in the books. A lot like ASOIAF I might add.

The plot was nothing special imo but did it's job. The dragons in the end was a nice touch and I liked how they went back to being stone after it was all done until the next time. A nice cyclical touch to the story re- Forging was initially done by the Elderlings albeit unintentionally. Verity disappearing into the dragon and Kettricken crying was a nice scene was well. Verity fecking Kettricken using Fitz's body on the other hand was creepy.

The politics is done very well. Only behind ASOIAF in that respect. The politics in most books is laughably crap i.e Mistborn or even WoT.

I love the naming system of Duchies:lol:

Hmm...that's all I can think off right now. Excellent series!
Glad you liked them, pretty much exactly the same thoughts I had about them I think - it'll be interesting to see what you think of Liveships if you do get around to reading them! For me Liveships has most of the strengths of the Fitz books with added depth and complexity due to the multiple viewpoints - Hobb manages to make the characters just as deep as the ones in Farseer even though there are a lot more of them. Since you liked both Farseer and ASOIAF I reckon you'd enjoy them a hell of a lot.

Couple of replies to the bit in the spoiler, since I can't resist talking about these books! :p
I have to say I never got the feeling this was a trilogy. It reads like one big story broken down into three for the sake of convenience of readers. There's no specific plot threads in any of the books. None that I could grasp anyway. I was reading the Omnibus edition and was genuinely shocked when the the epilogue popped up in Assassin's Apprentice. I honestly thought I was about half way through the book at that point:lol:
Yeah there really isn't any sense of the story being wrapped up and complete like there often is in some books, but I think that's one of the things that makes it feel more real. There's a lot of unfinished business, but without it leaving the sense that the author just wanted an excuse to write sequels, if you get what I mean. Feels like there's a main story for each trilogy, without any real plot specific to each book, and there's always a load of stuff going on alongside the main story.

The writing was superb. Had me hooked right from the off. Fitz's development was brilliant from start to finish was superb. He's a bit thick at times gets kicked all over the place by literally everyone but it doesn't feel like an overkill at any point. I liked the irony of how every single Farseer warned him about how he might be used by their enemies and yet the only one's to use him for their purposes were the Farseers. The best thing about the way he's written though is how it's allowed Robin Hobb to flesh out all the other characters without the need for separate PoV's (Though that might have made the story even better imo). One flaw/plot hole I thought was how the Rurisk death was handled. It was swept under the carpet way too easily. Because of the first person format of the books there were a few other characters I'd liked to have read more about. Patience wasn't in the 3rd book at all which was disappointing. Chade was another one who we didn't see much off.
Completely agree with all of that. Fitz is infuriating at times, but it comes across as just a part of his character for some reason, rather than just characters being stupid for the sake of the plot. You see a lot more of Chade and I think a bit more of Patience in the Tawny Man trilogy, Chade takes a much more active role since he's no longer skulking inside the walls of the castle all the time.

Fitz's relationship with animals is astoundingly well written. Honestly, the Fitz-Nighteyes combo is perhaps the best thing about the series. The relationship between them is so wonderfully written and I swear Nigheyes is the funniest character in the series (Between him and fool anyway). Comes up with some hilarious one liners! Another relationship I liked in the series was the Fitz-Verity. A nice mixture of genuine affection for each other mixed with a great deal of loyalty.
Fitz and Nighteyes is a great relationship, and I remember really liking that the other characters start to discover Nighteyes for themselves - Kettricken and the Fool do in particular iirc. Makes him feel a lot more real since he has relationships outside of the wit bond. Verity's fate always makes me feel really melancholy. Such a great character, always find his sacrifices heartwrenching.

The 3rd book is probably the worst of the lot. Really enjoyed reading it but I thought it could have been a wee bit shorter without losing anything plot wise. I liked the ending. Can't say I cared too much about Molly but was glad for Burrich. If anyone in the books deserved that, he was the one. The scene where he confronts Molly with the King's pin genuinely believing that Fitzi is dead was really sad.
Yah third book is a bit of a chore at times, particularly the travelling bits. Definitely could've done with a lot cut out of it. Molly's definitely a weak point throughout the series for me, never really liked her much.
 
Finished Farseer:

Assassin's Apprentice:9/10
Royal Assassin:10/10
Assassin's Quest:8/10

I have to say I never got the feeling this was a trilogy. It reads like one big story broken down into three for the sake of convenience of readers. There's no specific plot threads in any of the books. None that I could grasp anyway. I was reading the Omnibus edition and was genuinely shocked when the the epilogue popped up in Assassin's Apprentice. I honestly thought I was about half way through the book at that point:lol:

The writing was superb. Had me hooked right from the off. Fitz's development was brilliant from start to finish was superb. He's a bit thick at times gets kicked all over the place by literally everyone but it doesn't feel like an overkill at any point. I liked the irony of how every single Farseer warned him about how he might be used by their enemies and yet the only one's to use him for their purposes were the Farseers. The best thing about the way he's written though is how it's allowed Robin Hobb to flesh out all the other characters without the need for separate PoV's (Though that might have made the story even better imo). One flaw/plot hole I thought was how the Rurisk death was handled. It was swept under the carpet way too easily. Because of the first person format of the books there were a few other characters I'd liked to have read more about. Patience wasn't in the 3rd book at all which was disappointing. Chade was another one who we didn't see much off.

Fitz's relationship with animals is astoundingly well written. Honestly, the Fitz-Nighteyes combo is perhaps the best thing about the series. The relationship between them is so wonderfully written and I swear Nigheyes is the funniest character in the series (Between him and fool anyway). Comes up with some hilarious one liners! Another relationship I liked in the series was the Fitz-Verity. A nice mixture of genuine affection for each other mixed with a great deal of loyalty.

The scene in the 2nd book where two forged one's are fighting over a baby and rip it apart:( Had to put the book down for a bit after that. Brutal stuff. The deaths of Nosy and Smithy were almost as bad. Was fearing the worst for Nighteyes while reading the 3rd book but that ended well!

The 3rd book is probably the worst of the lot. Really enjoyed reading it but I thought it could have been a wee bit shorter without losing anything plot wise. I liked the ending. Can't say I cared too much about Molly but was glad for Burrich. If anyone in the books deserved that, he was the one. The scene where he confronts Molly with the King's pin genuinely believing that Fitzi is dead was really sad.

The magic was nice. It looked very basic in how it was laid out in the first book but that's until we find out Galen was pretty much a fraud. This is the kind of magic I like best. Not very quantifiable (i.e x happens if you do y), mysterious and still powerful. Most of all, it was very well used in the books. A lot like ASOIAF I might add.

The plot was nothing special imo but did it's job. The dragons in the end was a nice touch and I liked how they went back to being stone after it was all done until the next time. A nice cyclical touch to the story re- Forging was initially done by the Elderlings albeit unintentionally. Verity disappearing into the dragon and Kettricken crying was a nice scene was well. Verity fecking Kettricken using Fitz's body on the other hand was creepy.

The politics is done very well. Only behind ASOIAF in that respect. The politics in most books is laughably crap i.e Mistborn or even WoT.

I love the naming system of Duchies:lol:

Hmm...that's all I can think off right now. Excellent series!
Geez, that is a great rating.

Need to check this books, but I have another 6 Black Company books in line.
 
Glad you liked them, pretty much exactly the same thoughts I had about them I think - it'll be interesting to see what you think of Liveships if you do get around to reading them! For me Liveships has most of the strengths of the Fitz books with added depth and complexity due to the multiple viewpoints - Hobb manages to make the characters just as deep as the ones in Farseer even though there are a lot more of them. Since you liked both Farseer and ASOIAF I reckon you'd enjoy them a hell of a lot.

Was planning to read Liveships straight away but since it's not linked to Farseer at all I'm going to read up First Law and then return to the Elderlings. Multiple viewpoints is pretty much my favourite thing about ASIOAF so Liveships sounds very promising. I rated Farseer for what it was but multiple pov's would have made it even better.
Couple of replies to the bit in the spoiler, since I can't resist talking about these books! :p
Fitz and Nighteyes is a great relationship, and I remember really liking that the other characters start to discover Nighteyes for themselves - Kettricken and the Fool do in particular iirc. Makes him feel a lot more real since he has relationships outside of the wit bond. Verity's fate always makes me feel really melancholy. Such a great character, always find his sacrifices heartwrenching.

That's a good point re:nighteyes. It wasn't solely about Fitz and nighteyes towards the end. Kettricken could communicate with him via wit and fool via the skill bond. Definitely made him a lot more complete as a character. And yeah, Verity is a said character alright. Even more sad that people didn't really appreciate his sacrifices. Until he became a dragon of course...

Yah third book is a bit of a chore at times, particularly the travelling bits. Definitely could've done with a lot cut out of it. Molly's definitely a weak point throughout the series for me, never really liked her much.

I didn't mind the traveling bits to be honest. I love a good old travelogue. I thought the "Fitz going to Tradeford to kill Regal" plot was unnecessary. Hobb could have skipped that entirely and had Fitz head straight to the Mountains to find Verity.

btw, did we ever find out who killed Chivalry? Also thought we might find out about his mum but turns out that wasn't really important.
 
Was planning to read Liveships straight away but since it's not linked to Farseer at all I'm going to read up First Law and then return to the Elderlings. Multiple viewpoints is pretty much my favourite thing about ASIOAF so Liveships sounds very promising. I rated Farseer for what it was but multiple pov's would have made it even better.
Definitely your kind of thing then! I wish she'd write more like that. Was hoping Rain Wilds would be, but it would need a major edit to get to that level I think.

I've had First Law on my to-read list for aaages, keep pushing it down the list and reading something else instead. Don't know why I seem to keep avoiding it. :confused:

I didn't mind the traveling bits to be honest. I love a good old travelogue. I thought the "Fitz going to Tradeford to kill Regal" plot was unnecessary. Hobb could have skipped that entirely and had Fitz head straight to the Mountains to find Verity.
Yeah that section is what I meant rather than all the travelling, plus the bit with the caravan getting attacked. Seemed like it was there to raise suspense, and it just utterly failed for me and slowed everything down too much.

btw, did we ever find out who killed Chivalry? Also thought we might find out about his mum but turns out that wasn't really important.
Nope, it's still a mystery after reading all the books - I'm fairly sure it was Queen Desire, but I doubt we'll ever find out. Yeah I was expecting that too when I first read it. I completely missed that the woman who shouted at him in the Buckkeep market is his mother, really sad that they came so close to meeting again.

Question re the Fool: male or female? :D
 
Yeah that section is what I meant rather than all the travelling, plus the bit with the caravan getting attacked. Seemed like it was there to raise suspense, and it just utterly failed for me and slowed everything down too much.

Nope, it's still a mystery after reading all the books - I'm fairly sure it was Queen Desire, but I doubt we'll ever find out. Yeah I was expecting that too when I first read it. I completely missed that the woman who shouted at him in the Buckkeep market is his mother, really sad that they came so close to meeting again.

Question re the Fool: male or female? :D

Wait, what? What women? Must have completely missed that!

Male and bisexual. If he's to be believed he has a gigantic cock down there:lol: