Fantastic Five coming to Manchester United

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PlayerOne said:
Fabregas is a good player but I'm not so sure on him anymore. He has had a poor season and we would have to change to a 4-3-3 to fit him in.
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We need to change to a 4-3-3 anyway... This team can not play a rigid 442 as this season has proven. Cesc needs to premierleague however i don't see Moyes been the change he needs.
 
If Fabregas was available, Arsenal would be first in line. They have shown they are willing to spend big too.
 
The defence and attack has carried the midfield for years...and unfortunately for DM this summer will see more that a few departures in all areas of the team, which means his task has become far greater.

I'd work on the biggest weakness first and buy 2 central midfielders, even if United get screwed again and end up blowing all the budget on the CM. I'd accept starting the season with a few defenders light knowing the likes of Carrick/Valencia can cover for the odd match.

The reported £200 million (which i see has been reduced to £150 million :rolleyes: in the last few days) is just another story dreamed up by the media. I would think a more realistic budget would be around £60 million for 3 players.

Which would take Moyes total spend so far to around £125 million.
 
prateik said:
If Fabregas was available, Arsenal would be first in line. They have shown they are willing to spend big too.
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I think we'd have a chance. There must have been positive contact with his agent (at least initially) last year for us to bother making a bid.

Arsenal need a forward far more than they need another midfielder.
 
Eugenius said:
I'd sign two midfielders and a left back at leave it at that. Fix the glaring deficiencies with the team and focus on getting those three signings right and fitting into the team rather than trying to bed 5 players into the first XI. No point ending up like Spurs with wholesale changes. Then we need to see how well Moyes is able to motivate the team and make the best out of what we've got.
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That would leave us very light at the back.

Need at least one centre half as well for me.
 
How amazing will it be when Liverpool being the Champions of England trump us (the middle-table plodders) to these big names. The summer's setting up for this to happen.
 
prateik said:
If Fabregas was available, Arsenal would be first in line. They have shown they are willing to spend big too.
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Arsenal surely need a striker this summer, and to improve on what they've got will take big money.

Surely they won't go for yet another midfielder, with Ozil, Cazorla, Ramsay, Wilshere, Flamini already to fit in?
 
RuudTom83 said:
The reported £200 million (which i see has been reduced to £150 million :rolleyes: in the last few days) is just another story dreamed up by the media. I would think a more realistic budget would be around £60 million for 3 players.
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The problem is, 60m for 2, maybe in 3 players will not fix anything
20m does not get you a lot these days unless you get very lucky finding a gem

It looks like Evra, Ferdinand, Vidic, Anderson will definitely be leaving
There are also question marks over Young, Nani, Cleverley and to an extent RVP

If the board wants to spend 60m, thats fine, but they will see the club go down hill, and lose value on their investment
 
prateik said:
If Fabregas was available, Arsenal would be first in line. They have shown they are willing to spend big too.
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Why should the get a world class player in the only position where the have already probably better players (Ramsey, Özil) Ramsey was the most complete midfielder in the league before his injury and Özil is probably better as a 10 than Fabregas.

Would take him in a heart beat at United. Would be quite expensive though.
 
Could see Fabregas going to Serie A for some reason.

Hopefully he'll join us with Mata and De Gea though :drool:
 
Having LVG as manager wouldn't harm our chances on getting Kroos..
 
Mainoldo said:
We need to change to a 4-3-3 anyway... This team can not play a rigid 442 as this season has proven. Cesc needs to premierleague however i don't see Moyes been the change he needs.
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We don't have any effective wide forwards/wingers to play 4-3-3. Our best bet is 4-2-3-1 with 2 solid central defensive midfielders brought in over the summer
 
United22 said:
We don't have any effective wide forwards/wingers to play 4-3-3. Our best bet is 4-2-3-1 with 2 solid central defensive midfielders brought in over the summer
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Seriously what is this belief with this two solid defensive midfielders. Its too rigid, one is enough.. We need fluid football. Two Makelele's does not give you that.
 
Mainoldo said:
Seriously what is this belief with this two solid defensive midfielders. Its too rigid, one is enough.. We need fluid football. Two Makelele's does not give you that.
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My bad, I don't literally mean it as in two Makelele's who sit back completely. More of a Alonso/Khedira type partnership , so a deep lying playmaker next to a defensive destroyer type player who is energetic but can break up play.
 
United22 said:
My bad, I don't literally mean it as in two Makelele's who sit back completely. More of a Alonso/Khedira type partnership , so a deep lying playmaker next to a defensive destroyer type player who is energetic but can break up play.
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Fair enough... That would work
 
New five if we adopt a 4-3-3 under a new manager!

1.) Mangala or Larporte(£20m -£35m)
2.) Kevin Strootman or Ross Barkley or Mateo Kovacic(£20m -£50m)
3.) William Carvalho(£37m)
4.) Luke Shaw (£25m)
5.) Viktor Fischer or Lazar Markovic(£20m) dependant on if some of our attacking players leaves[/QUOTE]

De Gea(Lindergaard)
Rafael(Janko/Varela) - Mangala(Evans) - Jones/Evans(Smailing) - Shaw(Büttner)
Carvalho(Carrick)
Strootman(Cleverley/Powell) - Mata(Kagawa)
Januzaj(Nani) - Van Persie*(Hernandez/Wilson/Henriquez) - Welbeck(Fischer)​

*or Rooney
 
De Gea
(Lindegaard)
Rafael -- Garay -- Hummels -- Shaw
(Varela -- Jones -- Evans -- Buttner)
Carvalho -- Kroos
(Fellaini -- Carrick)
Mata
(Kagawa)
Welbeck -- Rooney -- Reus
(Somebody -- RVP -- Januzaj)
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I can only dream :lol:. But if we really are spending 150-200m
Garay: 18m
Shaw: 25m
Hummels/Mangala/Benatia: 25-30m
Kroos: 30m
Carvalho: 25m
Reus: 40m
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Sorry, but I really don't see the potential in Smalling like the rest of this place does....I'd keep him as a squad player, but I don't have the believe in a Jones Smalling partnership
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Manchester United set sights on Paris Saint-Germain's Edinson Cavani
• Managerial turmoil fails to deter club over transfer targets
• United confident of landing Shaw and still want Fábregas
Daniel Taylor

Manchester United intend to plough ahead with their transfer business during the potentially long process of waiting for a new manager to start – almost three months in Louis van Gaal's case – and their extensive inquiries include exploring the possibility of whether Paris Saint-Germain might sell Edinson Cavani.

United confidently expect to close a deal of around £30m for Luke Shaw, offering the teenage Southampton full-back a lucrative financial package that could be worth as much as £100,000-a-week over five years. The offer will be difficult for Chelsea to match bearing in mind their issues over keeping in line with Uefa's financial fair play rules. Ed Woodward, United's chief executive, has been made aware that Cavani might be available and is also tempted to look again at Cesc Fábregas's position at Barcelona, despite the unsatisfactory way it turned out when they tried to sign him last summer.

Although United were accused of handling the process badly at the time, the club remain convinced that Fábregas was keen to join them only for the proposed move to break down because of the politics and sensitivities that surround his association with Barcelona. Their interest is sustained in part because Robin van Persie, Fábregas's close friend, has reported that the former Arsenal midfielder wanted the move to happen, using the striker as an intermediary, and Woodward was told exactly the same by the relevant agents.

United failed with bids of £25m and £30m, as well as making a verbal offer in the region of £35m, and could not persuade Fábregas to go public or try to force the issue. This time they will approach it more cautiously but, again, with the sense that both Fábregas and Barcelona are more open to the idea than their public utterances might lead people to suspect.

What is increasingly clear is that United realise they will have to spend significant sums of money if one of Van Gaal or Carlo Ancelotti, the two managers uppermost in their thoughts, is to repair the damage that was caused in the David Moyes era. The team, who are out of next season's Champions League, lie seventh in the Premier League, 23 points off the top, and are about to be deposed as champions.

Woodward is confident that two deals have already provisionally been put in place, though those names have not been revealed. Their interest is known in several high-calibre players such as Marco Reus and Ilkay Gundogan at Borussia Dortmund, Toni Kroos at Bayern Munich and Sporting Lisbon's William Carvalho.

Chelsea were considered favourites to land Shaw, a lifelong Chelsea supporter whose parents live near the club's Cobham training centre in Surrey. Yet the terms plus the lure of becoming Patrice Evra's instant successor at left-back have boosted confidence at Old Trafford that the 18-year-old England prospect will join, becoming the highest paid teenager in English football.

The priority for United is in midfield, as well as finding replacements for the departing Nemanja Vidic and Rio Ferdinand, but United have already held preliminary talks to ascertain whether Cavani might be prised away from PSG. The fee would be high, potentially £60m for a 27-year-old, in complete contrast to the policy that existed at Old Trafford a few years ago whereby the club simply would not countenance, post-Dimitar Berbatov, paying huge amounts for a player of that age.

Cavani signed from Napoli for £52.7m last summer, making him the sixth most expensive player in the world. His introduction to Ligue 1 was hugely impressive at first but the Uruguayan's form has diminished in the second part of the season and he was unable to exert any real influence in either leg of the Champions League quarter-final against Chelsea.

Although United are not short of forwards, the reason for their interest is two-fold. First, there is a recognition at Old Trafford that the team have lacked dynamism and need an injection of directness and pace in attack. Second, Woodward wants to bring a superstar to the club and his ambition of bringing Cristiano Ronaldo back to Manchester seems a long way away.

Whoever takes over from Ryan Giggs – who will hold his first press conference as interim manager on Friday – will be involved in the process as soon as it becomes possible. In Ancelotti's case, the earliest that could happen would be the end of May. However, United have to establish the chance of him leaving Real Madrid and a lot depends on how his team finish the season.

For Van Gaal, it would be even longer, as he prepares to take Holland to the World Cup finals. United, deliberating between the two, intend to make their first approaches in the next two weeks.

The debate over Adnan Januzaj's international future appears to have been settled after the Belgium coach, Marc Wilmots, took to Twitter to announce the teenager has committed himself to the land of his birth. The 19-year-old – who was born in Brussels to Kosovar-Albanian parents – is eligible to play for up to five countries, with Turkey and England also believed to have registered an interest. However, with Belgium preparing to take part in their first World Cup finals since 2002, Wilmost has confirmed that Januzaj will be avaialble for selection in Brazil.
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http://www.theguardian.com/football...nited-edinson-cavani-cesc-fabregas?CMP=twt_gu

Taylor is pretty reliable which makes this story a bit odd IMO. How is the manager going to fit Rooney, RVP and Cavani into one team? Also, who's going after all these player? Is SAF acting as a DoF now?
 
Why Cavani? Makes absolutely zero sense. Daniel Taylor is very reliable so I'll assume that the club is at least looking at the possibility of signing him but I fail to see the rationale behind it.
 
This Cavani story keeps coming up, I think another couple of papers have it despite it seeming implausible that PSG would sell someone they paid so much for and it surely being completely unnecessary to bring in another striker especially if we're going to employ a manager who plays 1 up front.
 
PlayerOne said:
http://www.theguardian.com/football...nited-edinson-cavani-cesc-fabregas?CMP=twt_gu

Taylor is pretty reliable which makes this story a bit odd IMO. How is the manager going to fit Rooney, RVP and Cavani into one team? Also, who's going after all these player? Is SAF acting as a DoF now?
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Ridiculous posturing by Woodward. If he signs Cavani he's just a poor man's Florentino Perez, if he fails he's a parody of Garry Cook. There's a total lack of planning behind these targets. Yay lets buy strikers! Whoohoo that'll make the world notice us. Its like watching a schoolchild assemble a dream team on FIFA. Stupidity personified. Where's David Gill to stop this nonsense?
 
I can see us wanting a pacey, direct attacker but surely if we were going to spunk £60M it would be better done so on Reus than Cavani.
 
Can you not see that we will have the following players:
Alaba (performed super bad lately, will be pretty cheap).
Reus (No future in Dortmund, a big team is right for him).
Messi (His best days are over and he need to move on).
Ronaldo (His ties with United will ensure he comes back).
Fabregas (Should be easy target, after all there are many Barca fans who are ok with him leaving),
Kroos (With an already overfilled midtfield on Bayern, he can be first choice in United!)
Gündogan (Great CM, probably a bit expensice, but we can do it).
Hummels (Same as above, just CB).
Meyer + Goretzka(Very promising midtfielders. Must get now before others!)
Pogba (Cash decides where this guy ends up, and it might as well be United again).
+ som more!
 
quackattack said:
Can you not see that we will have the following players:
Alaba (performed super bad lately, will be pretty cheap).
Reus (No future in Dortmund, a big team is right for him).
Messi (His best days are over and he need to move on).
Ronaldo (His ties with United will ensure he comes back).
Fabregas (Should be easy target, after all there are many Barca fans who are ok with him leaving),
Kroos (With an already overfilled midtfield on Bayern, he can be first choice in United!)
Gündogan (Great CM, probably a bit expensice, but we can do it).
Hummels (Same as above, just CB).
Meyer + Goretzka(Very promising midtfielders. Must get now before others!)
Pogba (Cash decides where this guy ends up, and it might as well be United again).
+ som more!
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many quotable sources are mentioning the same list of names:

Shaw, Carvalho, Kroos, Fabregas, Cavani.

The above list lacks a world class centre back and and extra central midfielder vs requirements …. but if we get anywhere close to such a list of acquisitions, it would be the most amazing summer of transfer muppetry in our history!

Assuming Cavani signs, then who from Rooney, RVP & Hernandez leaves? We cant accommodate all 4 + welbeck!
 
I'd rather have Shaw, Coleman, some centre-half, Carvalho and Memphis Depay. Cavani isn't needed even if Hernandez leaves and Fabregas can waste his career furthermore at Barcelona for all I care.
 
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