Pretty much this.
It's easily the worst Fallout game to date, but not a bad game at all. It's just all a lot of ok to decent elements, but nothing outstanding.
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Pretty much this.
It's easily the worst Fallout game to date, but not a bad game at all. It's just all a lot of ok to decent elements, but nothing outstanding.
Fair enough, will probably get it then. Cheers.
In all the quest's I've had I think I've seen one or two moral choices.
Man, feck bethesda and their dumb games.
Every game seems more catered for the simpleton and it's sad to see that it seems to be a successful model for them. I hope Obsidian are given a chance to make another fallout game considering that they have some respect for the people playing their games
And holy shit is this engine dated. It looks like shit and it runs like shit. Just move on please. I hope the next elder scrolls isn't like this.
Man, feck bethesda and their dumb games.
Every game seems more catered for the simpleton and it's sad to see that it seems to be a successful model for them. I hope Obsidian are given a chance to make another fallout game considering that they have some respect for the people playing their gamesAnd holy shit is this engine dated. It looks like shit and it runs like shit. Just move on please. I hope the next elder scrolls isn't like this.
OK I need some advice. Do I get this or Just Cause?
I have never played either game versions before so I'll have no idea what I'll be doing at the start.
I have never played either game versions before so I'll have no idea what I'll be doing at the start.
I gave up on this in the end. The bugs and dialog killed it for me. The quests and story became ridiculous too, Bethesda aren't even trying anymore. I honestly had heaps more fun in New Vegas.
Depends, which platform?
Depends, which platform?
PS4
Well Just Cause is completely broken on the Xbone, not sure how it holds up on the PS4 (which Fallout 4's version incidentally has problems on).
In short Just Cause is more fun, Fallout has more content. Watch a few streams and clips to get an idea. Though if it were me in hindsight I wish I would have bought JC3 instead of Fallout 4, take that for what its worth.
I'll play devil's advocate in the debate about whether it's a good game or not.
I'd never played a Fallout game before and had read some mixed reviews. I can honestly say it's one of the most enjoyable games I've ever played. I haven't ever really played any RPG before, so maybe it's just that I enjoy the genre but have no experience of what a good or bad RPG actually looks like. In my opinion, it's a great game and well worth getting. Also, my mate who'd equally never played any RPGs before is also really enjoying it.
I'd never played a Fallout game before and had read some mixed reviews. I can honestly say it's one of the most enjoyable games I've ever played. I haven't ever really played any RPG before, so maybe it's just that I enjoy the genre but have no experience of what a good or bad RPG actually looks like. In my opinion, it's a great game and well worth getting. Also, my mate who'd equally never played any RPGs before is also really enjoying it.
It's a very, very weak 'rpg' if it can even be classed as one. If you like this game, you have many far superior ones to go back and play now, lucky you!
It's a very, very weak 'rpg' if it can even be classed as one. If you like this game, you have many far superior ones to go back and play now, lucky you!
Well of course it's classed as an RPG, even if it's not hardcore enough for your requirements.
Well of course it's classed as an RPG, even if it's not hardcore enough for your requirements.
You laughing at something?
On a very simplistic level it's an rpg (then by definition most games are), but considering it's actually more of a shooting game (which Bethseda have said themselves btw) it's at least a hybrid. It's actually better described as an action adventure game, but that's a discussion that has been done a few times before.
Whatever way you look at it, the rpg aspects are very weak. It has nothing to do with 'hardcore' either, it's just heavily dumbed for the masses. Nothing wrong with liking simplistic games of course, and I don't mind this one as a game myself (though it's a poor Fallout).
I'm only saying RPG because I have a character who progresses through levels, which you don't get in Call of Duty or Uncharted, for example. Would the Witcher be described as a more classic RPG and if so, what makes it different or more of a 'hardcore' RPG than Fallout?
I think you progress through levels in Far Cry as well and thats not really a RPG. It's pretty much more like Far Cry than it is to the previous game in the series and as Redlambs said it's more action-adventure with some RPG elements.
I'm not sure if Witcher is more of an RPG but it does manage to beat Fallout 4 in pretty much every area and it's been building on Witcher 1 and Witcher 2. Fallout is going the opposite way and if there's a comparison to be made it's better done with the last fallout which was New Vegas.
It's an interesting discussion actually, but only if you are into that kind of thing
Anyway, forget about labels and play more similar games, that's your best bet mate. Fallout 3 and NV would be natural progression from Fallout4, even though they aren't traditional rpgs either (ignore that silly 'hardcore' comment made above), they have deeper mechanics than 4 and you should enjoy them.
Just got it for €39! Downloading now. Don't give a shit if it's shady, but G2A are fecking awesome. Recently bought the Mass Effect trilogy on there for €15 when it was €40 on EA Origin.
Anyone on PC have this annoying micro stutter when in doors? My frame rate is basically locked at 60fps but when I move or turn the camera it happens and it's really annoying.
I wish lock picks were less common, opening doors on Fallout 3 and New Vegas was a challenge, I have so many that I don't care if I lose a few opening things.
Yep, over 100 now.
I think they have a patch for that exact problem, dude. I'm pretty sure you have to opt in or something. Google Fallout 4 patch and you'll see.
I don't think they've ever been a challenge. I probably broke less than 5 pins in FO3 and NV. It's only when I rush that I lose them.
Maybe not a challenge but you had to take your time, especially for the harder locks.
What are the pro's and con's for joining the Institute over the Brotherhood of Steel?
What is their agenda?
What is their agenda?
Pros: They have cool tech, you get free heals
Cons: They're basically massive cnuts?
Is there any way you can join both? Or it's Brotherhood OR the Institute?
I haven't come across anyone involved in the Institute as yet, bar some Synths who have attacked me. I've rescued Brother Dante and his crew but haven't committed to joining them yet.
I'm not wanting to commit to one without know what the other can offer, or where the story could take me as I don't want to pour all these hours into the game when I think I'll be missing out on a lot. Or is that just the way it is?
Right now the Minutemen are waiting at the Castle for me. Though there is no way I can take on all of those Mirelurks ATM. I've rescued the Synth PI and have activated their first quest (main mission I'm assuming).
I don't want to spoil anything, but you can pretty much do quests for all of them until you get to a certain point in the story where you're forced to pick a side and the other becomes hostile.
You realise there's also a third faction you're missing right?
Yeah I've heard of them on a youtube video I watched yesterday:
railroad?
I haven't heard anything about them in the game so far though.
Yep!
They're a bit dull though, usual sanctimonious do-gooders with no real interesting backstory. Also they don't have cool tech like the institute or motherfeckin gunships like the Brotherhood of Bore, so they're pretty useless.
If you want to find them then finish the quest 'Follow the freedom trail', though if you want the quick answer:
Look for a church
Awesome, thanks for the heads-up. I've activated the 'follow the freedom trail' but haven't gotten any further into it than that. I was doing some side missions so I'll get around to this soon.
The latest patch has been released today on consoles. It fixed my crashes. I can't finally continue playing now.
I hope they haven't fixed the duplication glitch. Useful for getting materials
I found Spectacle Island, which must be the biggest settlement in the game.
I'm pretty close to the end of the game. It's pretty amazing that I don't give a shit about a single character or faction in this game. Everyone is just so... bland. It doesn't help that the the dialogue choices you make all lead to the same thing pretty much. The baron storyline from witcher 3 is honestly by far better than any quest I've played in fallout 4 and that was a sidequest if I'm not mistaken. After playing through the side quests at the beginning of the game I totally gave up on them due to how boring and repetitive they were so I just stuck to the main story and the occasional fast travel to sanctuary and mini nuke preston (you can't even kill him, that's how annoying he is). Jumping off the prydwen with power armor on is fun I guess.
So true. There are maybe two or three characters that are mildly entertaining. Nick Valentine is good and Cait's atrocious Irish accent is entertaining but that's about it. Special mention to Preston Garvey, the most boring video-game character in history.
Agree on The Witcher stuff. The quests in TW3 blow Fallout's out of the water. The Baron stuff, The Ladies of the Wood, Keira Metz, the Gwent heist, Skellige politics. All brilliant, and that's just a tiny few. Not to mention all the interesting characters and genuinely funny scenarios.
Bethesda are so far behind, it's not even funny.
I've given up on the game for pretty much the same reasons you've outlined here.
The lack of choice is bewildering. What I loved about New Vegas is you genuinely could be anyone, I mean heck you could join the raiders and become an outlaw. In Fallout 4 you have a choice of being a valiant hero or a sarcastic hero. Thats it. Agreed on the side quests too, they're also pretty predictable and tedious "go to the other side of the map, kill a few ghouls/mutants and/or bring us back some obscure item". Rinse and repeat. The factions weren't exactly interesting either and were one-dimensional cliches, as were the characters and pretty much the storyline as a whole.
I really hope Bethesda are more ambitious with the next Elder Scrolls game, this one felt so dated and pretty much still stuck in last gen. Now that they've guaranteed millions of copies sold, there's no excuse for them considering CDPR have blown then out of the water with the Witcher 3 with a fraction of their budget.
As someone who never played the previous Fallout games I have to say I'm really enjoying it. That's all I wanted to add!
See that's your problem. You're comparing the greatest videogame of all time to it. It's obviously going to come up way short.
It's not the quantum leap that a lot of people hoped for, but I'm enjoying it as well. I've only gotten as far as The Fens and have put in over 9 hours so far. I've gone for a Sniper build and my Perception is 10 already, so I'm seeing every threat from a mile away and dispatching them accordingly. It's great craic.
Yeah, I actually think comparing The Witcher 3 to this is almost unfair. Both games go about their business very different and I'm not even sure, aside from Morrowind, you'd say Bethesda even make true RPG's.
The Witcher 3 is on another level in terms of what a next gen game should offer though, I agree.
The Witcher 3 is on another level in terms of what a next gen game should offer though, I agree.
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I don't think it's unfair to make comparisons. Bethesda was the big RPG dog in town before Witcher 3 blew everyone away. It's only reasonable to compare the new Fallout to it and see how it stands up.
I wouldn't say Bethesda was ever the big RPG dog in town, their games are more sandboxes than RPG's IMO and on that front, I think they still do a fantastic job.