Thanks. Looking forward, what do you think the likelihood is now that Barcelona have signed Neymar that Fabgregas will a) play deeper and b) play as much as he did last season? If he has a chance to play where he's most comfortable next season then he'd surely stay at Barcelona, I just wonder if he's been given a nudge by the management there that that might not be the case?
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Thanks. Looking forward, what do you think the likelihood is now that Barcelona have signed Neymar that Fabgregas will a) play deeper and b) play as much as he did last season? If he has a chance to play where he's most comfortable next season then he'd surely stay at Barcelona, I just wonder if he's been given a nudge by the management there that that might not be the case?
You can just see how nervous Pete is getting with every post
This is beautiful.
So true!Storey knows this is most likely not going to amount to anything, but the doubt is slowly creeping in. RvP has left some lasting scars.
Just seen this news now. We're not falling for this one so soon after Thiago, are we? There's no way Barca will do this deal, especially at the price quoted. If it's true that Arsenal have a 50% sell on clause, this would only happen at around the £50-60 mill mark.moyes prefers fabregas over thiago. Looks like he didnt go all out and go for the riskier option Thiago.
Davis Dein's son i take it Steve?
This is kinda what I've heard from randoms on the internet... It sounds like Fabregas has been corrupted by his time in England.
They won't have a 50% sell on clause. I'd be surprised if they even had a first refusal clause!
They have. Widely reported.
Considering our recent dismal record in the transfer market, I wouldn't at all be surprised if Barca and Fabregas came out and ridiculed the story. Besides, we're probably past the stage of embarrassing ourselves now, lets just bid £25+ million plus for every good midfielder out there and see what sticks.
Yeah, that's my only reservation. He's got a lot of miles on the clock for a 26 year old. The good thing is he hasn't actually won much, so there should be no lack of ambition.
I don't know if anybody has mention this and it's a long shot but my thought is that our connection to Fabregas is going via RvP. It would be natural if Robin had spoke to Cesc and ask if he's interested before we make a bid. Another thing as that we need someone close to him who speaks well about us. I can't see Moyes and the club make a bid if there weren't a possible chance to get him, otherwise we look stupid.
I go all in on this one too, full muppet approach. Life is to short to be negative.
I go all in on this one too, full muppet approach. Life is to short to be negative.
Sound like a plan!
By who?
Dismal? We signed RVP and Kagawa last season. The best young goal keeper in Europe, and one of the highest rated young centrebacks in England the season before. Dismal indeed.
Isn't that basically what I said? I think Thiago's youth, promise and cheap price balances out with Fabregas' certainty of being a success, making them equally good buys.
The dismal record in the transfer market?
Some people don't know they're born.
Some people don't know they're born.
Could be a naive move to think both are going to leave though.
Yeah but he always got a nice break between Mid February and June when he was at Arsenal.
There's a tried-and-tested rule of thumb for potential United signings: if the targets suffer from Sneaky Face Syndrome™, then we won't sign them & should carry on hating them.
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So we did we - it seems - wait until Thiago was officially off to make a bid for Cesc?
Would love it if this goes the way the VP transfer went. Ie, complete disbelief and "that'll never happen" from everyone at the start, to a concrete bid, to it escalating and finally done.
Would be an incredible transfer, a star player,and in the key position we lack in!
There must have been some kind of openness to the deal from either Barce or Fabregas. Team of United's size don't just slap bids in randomly.
Would be an incredible transfer, a star player,and in the key position we lack in!
There must have been some kind of openness to the deal from either Barce or Fabregas. Team of United's size don't just slap bids in randomly.
I was referring to our long chases of high profile names - Thiago, Sanchez, Lucas, Sneijder, Nasri, Benzema etc etc. Which is dismal.
Is it really a co-incidence that we've put in a bid for him on the same day RVP arrived in Australia?
kidding you cnuts
kidding you cnuts
Yeah, I see they've reported it but I always find it hard to believe. Seems to be automatic for the media to say some kind of clause exists for buy-back, sell on fee etc whenever a player is sold.
Looking at that list now, I'm not at all unhappy at missing out on Sneijder, Nasri, Benzema and probably Sanchez. Funny how things work out.
Yes mate. He's the curse of Gooners everywhere.
Can't really remember other cases than Bojan, Rossi and C. Ronaldo(which was subsequently denied by Gill I believe).
Who gives a feck who we didn't get? And who even knows to what extent our interest in any of those players ever went? We signed the top striker in England and one of the best players in the Bundesliga last season, and they've both now got a league winners medal.
fecking dismal.
Can't believe people are believing that we weren't interested in Thiago. Fabregas is our fallback option, by the looks of it. Personally, I'm not that fussed about Fabregas. He'll always be an Arsenal or Barcelona man, he's just hired help if he comes here. I'd rather see players come here that can make a name and a legacy for themselves here. Basically, what most Manchester United signings are supposed to be about.
Dunno, I was okay with hiring Van Persie's help for last season. It turned out reasonably well.
Have a seat & get into semi-full-muppet mode for Christ sake man
Yeah, as regards to Pete, its Karma after all his jibes yesterday about United losing most of our first 5 games in the new season - if not all of them etc.. and Moyes bein a disaster for us blah blah blah!
I think Arsenal probably do have first option, but Fabregas wanted to go and win things. He's not going to settle for 4th place mediocrity now
I'd be incredibly surprised if they agreed to a 50% clause. Then again, the clause for Thiago was mental too, so Barca don't seem to make the wisest decisions as a business.
Even with first refusal, Cesc would have to actually want to go to Arsenal. He might not want to.
Don't get any more hired gun than Henrik Larsson for the short period we had him for. But, at 26 Fabregas could definitely make his name (even more than it is now) - possibly even leaving a legacy behind.
Yeah it's worked out pretty well
I reckon Sanchez would of been a hit here though. We love old fashioned wing play and Sanchez fits us more than he does Barca.
I'm very happy with our transfer activity over the past few years. However our record in signing these types of players - i.e. Fabregas is dismal for whatever reason. So therefore I wouldn't be surprised if Barca come out and say he isn't for sale, move on United because we don't seem to have much strategy with these high profile foreign signings. Continually repeating that we signed so and so last year or the year before is irrelevant as I am not referring to these players.
It sort of is but I mainly disagreed with the part you said that they're equal. They're not for me. Fabregas would be an even better signing as far as I'm concerned.
Hired help?
What can't you believe? That some of us don't buy into the idea of just throwing money at the best players to come here, which is something our supporters have said 'is not the Manchester United way' many times over the years, even criticising other clubs for doing so.
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