Fabian Hürzeler: Brighton Manager (just 31 years old)

Quite excited by this, but nervous as well. I'm just glad the process is over and we know what's happening. However it goes next season, it is a very Brighton appointment!
 
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Disappointed we didn't appoint him as a United manager, although I know absolutely nothing about him. If Brighton appointed him, he's going to be linked to the United/Chelsea job soon anyway by caf posters at least, irrespective of how he performs...so why not do a prempt the hiring to keep this place satisfied?
 
It's an interesting proposition. By all accounts he's very highly rated and has done well in his career so far but the PL is a different beast in terms of ego and quality. You have to be a very assured coach to succeed and it will be a big test of his mental character rather than his coaching methods.

I imagine the money offered is the biggest reason these coaches jump to England so fast. I asked about him in the Bundesliga thread and quite surprised he left St Pauli so quickly, figured he'd be there for a season or two before moving up.
 
I imagine the money offered is the biggest reason these coaches jump to England so fast. I asked about him in the Bundesliga thread and quite surprised he left St Pauli so quickly, figured he'd be there for a season or two before moving up.

Had he stayed he probably would have needed to compromise quite a bit, due to St. Pauli being a huge underdog in the first division and €7m fee would have been too much for most Bundesliga clubs - though even if it wasn't an issue there really aren't any openings in Bundesliga at clubs that are set up to accommodate his tactics.

So given the circumstances Brighton was probably just a good opportunity at the right time. They are already set up to play his football, he won't have huge pressure, if it works out he will have set himself up for the big clubs and if it doesn't the fact that he moved countries and attempted such a big step so early in his career will probably mitigate the damage to his reputation a bit.
 
I think they will struggle. You'd have to be some talent to get away with not having the experience your competitors have if you're a manager at 31.
 
I think they will struggle. You'd have to be some talent to get away with not having the experience your competitors have if you're a manager at 31.
Hürzeler has the best points per game average in the history of the 2nd Bundesliga (only counting manager who had at least 50 matches there, if you look at those who managed at least one season he is 5th best - that statistic is a bit flawed because it contains managers of clubs who were far too good for being in the second tier and just rushed back up).

That puts him directly ahead of a legend like Rehhagel and Rangnick, and far ahead of Klopp who is 9th in that ranking.

He also started with winning 10 games in a row last season and also managed a 25 matches unbeaten run.

Ignoring his age these are quite amazing feats in that competition.

I think it's safe to assume that he is indeed a special talent
 
Hürzeler has the best points per game average in the history of the 2nd Bundesliga (only counting manager who had at least 50 matches there, if you look at those who managed at least one season he is 5th best - that statistic is a bit flawed because it contains managers of clubs who were far too good for being in the second tier and just rushed back up).

That puts him directly ahead of a legend like Rehhagel and Rangnick, and far ahead of Klopp who is 9th in that ranking.

He also started with winning 10 games in a row last season and also managed a 25 matches unbeaten run.

Ignoring his age these are quite amazing feats in that competition.

I think it's safe to assume that he is indeed a special talent

McKenna also has impressive stats in the lower leagues, remains to be seen whether that will continue in the top division. It's the hard times where the experience will count.
 
He'll be great for them and we'll be wishing he was our manager, just like the last two Brighton guys after they had a few good games.
 
Hürzeler has the best points per game average in the history of the 2nd Bundesliga (only counting manager who had at least 50 matches there, if you look at those who managed at least one season he is 5th best - that statistic is a bit flawed because it contains managers of clubs who were far too good for being in the second tier and just rushed back up).

That puts him directly ahead of a legend like Rehhagel and Rangnick, and far ahead of Klopp who is 9th in that ranking.

He also started with winning 10 games in a row last season and also managed a 25 matches unbeaten run.

Ignoring his age these are quite amazing feats in that competition.

I think it's safe to assume that he is indeed a special talent

It's very niche record like you said! You can only really get that record by failing to be promoted during your first season, (not his fault at all on that one looking at 22/23 results and their improvement after he took over), then getting promoted the next. It requires a specific set of circumstances and being at the right sort of club to be able to do it. St. Pauli were 5th in 21/22 so I'm guessing they had a pretty good squad and that Schultz failed to progress which is why Hürzeler got the job in the first place? Other managers would have taken over much worse squads in that division and only just hitting the 50 game mark helps a lot too for that record.

It's cool and I don't know anything about the bloke but it's a strange kind of record to me. Don't want to shit on him but the record itself doesn't massively excite me. I'm in no place to make any predictions as to how well he'll do or not.

It's similar to something I remember being posted about Michael Carrick fairly recently. He has the highest win percentage of all permanant Middlebrough managers. It sounds nice and it is good, but Middlesbrough have spent half their time in each top 2 divisions and never been able to be the near the upper reaches of the top flight. Whenever they've been in the top flight it's negatively affected any of their manager's win rate. Those managers who didn't do well in the 2nd tier would get fired. He's their best manager to have come reasonably close to being promoted without actually doing it.
 
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It's very niche record like you said! You can only really get that record by failing to be promoted during your first season, (not his fault at all on that one looking at 22/23 results and their improvement after he took over), then getting promoted the next. It requires specific set of circumstances and being at the right sort of club to be able to do it. St. Pauli were 5th in 21/22 so I'm guessing they had a pretty good squad and that Schultz failed to take them on which is why Hürzeler got the job in the first place? Only just hitting the 50 game mark helps too for that record.

It's cool and I don't know anything about the bloke but it's a strange kind of record to me. Don't want to shit on him but the record itself doesn't massively excite me. I'm in no place to make any predictions as to how well he'll do or not.

It's similar to something I remember being posted about Michael Carrick fairly recently. He has the highest win percentage of all permanant Middlebrough managers. It sounds nice and it is good, but Middlesbrough have spent half their time in each top 2 divisions and never been able to be the near the upper reaches of the top flight. Whenever they've been in the top flight it's negatively affected any of their manager's win rate. Those managers who didn't do well in the 2nd tier would get fired. He's their best manager to have come reasonably close to being promoted without actually doing it.
All true what you say. It's just the problem with managers who are just starting their careers that they only can get these niche records as they just didn't have the career yet to build anything outstanding.
 
St. Pauli apparently have found Hürzeler's replacement and agreed on a deal: Alexander Blessin

Currently manager of Union St. Gilloise who are owned by Brighton's owners as well.

Apparently St. Pauli insistend on being allowed to approach him as part of the Hürzeler deal. Smart business for all involved I think, as they now get a replacement who should be familiar with the same ideas as part of Brighton's group.
 
St. Pauli apparently have found Hürzeler's replacement and agreed on a deal: Alexander Blessin

Currently manager of Union St. Gilloise who are owned by Brighton's owners as well.

Apparently St. Pauli insistend on being allowed to approach him as part of the Hürzeler deal. Smart business for all involved I think, as they now get a replacement who should be familiar with the same ideas as part of Brighton's group.
I hope he's an utter disaster for them, just so opposition fans can chant "Are you a Blessin in disguise?" to every struggling manager they have in the future.
 
Real deal or honeymoon period?
He's the real deal in that he is a good manager, possibly great for his age. He's not the real deal if you're looking for the next Pep, he does a good job but isn't revolutionary.

That said I think he's still so young and inexperienced one needs to wait for a prolonged barren spell to really judge him.
 
Honeymoon. I thought we should have beaten them last week

Even today they come across as being more aware structurally it's not really anything memorizing just a well organized team.

RDZ start was far more impressive from a performance standpoint but Fabian is significantly more inexperienced.

As a poster mentioned above I don't see anything revolutionary either.