F1 2022 Season

pauldyson1uk said:
all teams have to give a rookie driver a FP session once a season, well I think that's the reason.
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Oh, I didn't realise that. I guess that guy in Haas won't be driving anymore that's for sure.

Also Sergeant making his debut in USA is gold.
 
Mercedes' front wing, which is yet to be used, is causing a bit of a stir
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Red Bull and Alfa Romeo have opted to introduce fresh engines in Austin for Sergio Perez and Zhou Guanyu that will set both drivers back by five spots on Sunday's US Grand Prix grid.

Both drivers were the recipient of a fifth internal combustion engine (ICE) this season.

The changes won't help Perez' chances of fending off Ferrari's Charles Leclerc in the Drivers' standings, with the pair battling for the runner-up spot behind freshly crowned F1 world champion Max Verstappen.

But it also won't strengthen Red Bull's chances of clinching the Constructors' title, although the Milton Keynes-based outfit still hold a nearly unbeatable lead of 165 points over Ferrari.

The Mexican is current one point ahead of his Ferrari rival with four races to go this season.

Zhou's allocation of fresh power will hopefully boost Alfa Romeo's chances of returning among the top-ten, a position the Swiss outfit has enjoyed only once in the last nine races.
 
What is the Pirelli tyre test?
Martin Brundle explains why we are seeing a Pirelli tyre test in this session.
He said: "Pirelli need some information. They’re going to knock the blanket temperatures down to 50 degrees next year, in anticipation of eventually no tyre blankets, which seems slightly crazy to me. They want to test that, they want to test some compounds.
"Drivers will have to go out on fixed fuel loads, for a fixed number of laps, they won’t know what tyres are on – it’s all about information for Pirelli.
"They also can’t do any setup changes either between the runs, which is really tough for the teams.
"Normally this is a session that’s really important to them, so not the easiest for the teams but it’s information they need for next year."
 
pauldyson1uk said:
What is the Pirelli tyre test?
Martin Brundle explains why we are seeing a Pirelli tyre test in this session.
He said: "Pirelli need some information. They’re going to knock the blanket temperatures down to 50 degrees next year, in anticipation of eventually no tyre blankets, which seems slightly crazy to me. They want to test that, they want to test some compounds.
"Drivers will have to go out on fixed fuel loads, for a fixed number of laps, they won’t know what tyres are on – it’s all about information for Pirelli.
"They also can’t do any setup changes either between the runs, which is really tough for the teams.
"Normally this is a session that’s really important to them, so not the easiest for the teams but it’s information they need for next year."
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Why the feck no tyre blankets? Budget caps on electricity?
 
hobbers said:
No idea but it sounds ridiculous.

If cars are pitting for new tyres and the tyres are always cold, how the feck are you ever going to undercut someone? It won't be possible anymore.
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Its ok, redbull will find a way to cheat the tyre blanket ban and blame it on their catering.
 
Apparently this is the penalty RedBull might appeal. What a load of shit from FIA again. They have as much integrity as the board of enron.

..FIA had already proposed a penalty to Red Bull about a week ago. Reportedly, 25 per cent of the total wind tunnel time will be withheld for next season and a fine will be issued. A retrospective penalty with a points deduction for 2021 would be off the table. However, the team of Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez does not agree with this proposal..

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/148841/this-is-the-penalty-fia-proposed-red-bull-disagrees.html
 
Buster15 said:
Just imagine if this was football.
Referee.. That was a bad foul inside the penalty area. I was going to give a penalty. Are you happy with that. If not, I will not award a penalty?
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In football you can chose to accept or appeal punishments after the match. If you appeal, they can decide to extend or reduce the punishment.

It is almost identical to F1, except the crime and the discussions here are being kept secret, which is ridiculous and undermines confidence in the process.
 
goalscholes said:
In football you can chose to accept or appeal punishments after the match. If you appeal, they can decide to extend or reduce the punishment.

It is almost identical to F1, except the crime and the discussions here are being kept secret, which is ridiculous and undermines confidence in the process.
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But they've not been issued with any punishment yet. So they are able to appeal before any punishment is given. Meanwhile they have developed the fastest car and been awarded the drivers championship by overspending.

Meanwhile, as you say, the FIA, who awarded Red Bull last years drivers championship by effectively cheating in an unprecedented way, are secretly bargaining with the team they favoured (through Masi) last year.

F1 is a joke.
 
goalscholes said:
In football you can chose to accept or appeal punishments after the match. If you appeal, they can decide to extend or reduce the punishment.

It is almost identical to F1, except the crime and the discussions here are being kept secret, which is ridiculous and undermines confidence in the process.
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That would be correct, except for the fact that no punishment has been awarded to RB yet. Has it...
 
Buster15 said:
That would be correct, except for the fact that no punishment has been awarded to RB yet. Has it...
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I think we agree that they should be transparent about the overspend and the proposed punishment. If it isn't black and white, then F1 has messed up again, by contradicting what they've written in the rules and what they've communicated to the teams.

But in many walks of life, there will be conversations and negotiations between the rule maker and rule breaker, with the neutral invigilator only coming in if the two parties cannot reach an agreement. It is not unprecedented. And it has happened in F1 as long as I've watched it.

The real issue is that no one trusts them to do it correctly after their astounding incompetence last year and the fact that RB continue to benefit from going beyond what other teams see as fair. If they had made good decisions in the past, the fact that there were negotiations wouldn't be seen as much of an issue.
 
hobbers said:
Red Bull broke the F1 cost cap by $1.8m due to four clear reasons, according to reports.

Red Bull were initially $4m inside the $145m F1 budget, according to RacingNews365, before four issues cost them a combined $5.8m, pushing them $1.8m above the cap.

$0.8m in gardening leave for Dan Fellows who left to join AM that for whatever reason RB didn't include.
$1.2m catering costs not included in the spend that FIA say should be.
$1m+ spare parts that should not have counted until a June 22 rule change after submissions were in.
$1m+ tax overpayment that might yet be rebated from HMRC

Storm in a teacup pretty much confirmed. If the spare parts and tax things are excluded then they'd be comfortably under the cap, no wonder they're not accepting the ABA.
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Cool. They still broke it.
 
hobbers said:
Red Bull broke the F1 cost cap by $1.8m due to four clear reasons, according to reports.

Red Bull were initially $4m inside the $145m F1 budget, according to RacingNews365, before four issues cost them a combined $5.8m, pushing them $1.8m above the cap.

$0.8m in gardening leave for Dan Fellows who left to join AM that for whatever reason RB didn't include.
$1.2m catering costs not included in the spend that FIA say should be.
$1m+ spare parts that should not have counted until a June 22 rule change after submissions were in.
$1m+ tax overpayment that might yet be rebated from HMRC

Storm in a teacup pretty much confirmed. If the spare parts and tax things are excluded then they'd be comfortably under the cap, no wonder they're not accepting the ABA.
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Changing the rules a year after is like awarding penalties for var cock ups at the end of the season
 
goalscholes said:
I think we agree that they should be transparent about the overspend and the proposed punishment. If it isn't black and white, then F1 has messed up again, by contradicting what they've written in the rules and what they've communicated to the teams.

But in many walks of life, there will be conversations and negotiations between the rule maker and rule breaker, with the neutral invigilator only coming in if the two parties cannot reach an agreement. It is not unprecedented. And it has happened in F1 as long as I've watched it.

The real issue is that no one trusts them to do it correctly after their astounding incompetence last year and the fact that RB continue to benefit from going beyond what other teams see as fair. If they had made good decisions in the past, the fact that there were negotiations wouldn't be seen as much of an issue.
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Yes. Agree with this. Especially about the astounding incompetence of last year.
To be honest I still find it difficult to accept the outcome of that so called race.
And how do we know whether or not RB overspend has had any influence on this year win.
 
Squeaky bum time for Mick Schumacher, deliver or the F1 dream is dead, immense pressure! (its probably dead anyway, but he might not be aware)
 
Norris through after Zhou has lap-time deleted!
What a reprieve for Lando Norris!
Zhou Guanyu loses his time, not for the first time today, for exceeding track limits.
That means Norris goes through to Q3 in P10.
Tough on Zhou
 
Perez's five-place grid penalty for Sunday's race was confirmed on Friday - along with Alfa Romeo's Zhou Guanyu - while during Practice Three it was revealed that Leclerc and Fernando Alonso, who was sixth, have even bigger drops.
Leclerc has a new Internal Combustion Engine and turbocharge, while Alonso just has a new ICE
 
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Hamilton has beaten Russell a fair few times in qualifying this year I think. What is the head to head?
 
Final Grid with penalties:
With grid penalties factored in, this is what we understand to be the grid for tomorrow's Grand Prix:
1) Carlos Sainz, Ferrari
2) Max Verstappen, Red Bull
3) Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes
4) George Russell, Mercedes
5) Lance Stroll, Aston Martin
6) Lando Norris, McLaren
7) Valtteri Bottas, Alfa Romeo
8) Alex Albon, Williams
9) Sergio Perez, Red Bull
10) Sebastian Vettel, Aston Martin
11) Pierre Gasly, Alpha Tauri
12) Charles Leclerc, Ferrari
13) Yuki Tsunoda, Alpha Tauri
14) Fernando Alonso, Alpine
15) Kevin Magnussen, Haas
16) Daniel Ricciardo, McLaren
17) Esteban Ocon, Alpine
18) Mick Schumacher, Haas
19) Zhou Guanyu, Alfa Romeo
20) Nicholas Latifi, Williams

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