F1 2022 Season

To be honest I didn’t read your post properly, thought it asked how he finished ahead of Russell.
fair enough I can see that.

I do think it's interesting though that the 2 races where there hasn't been big bouncing he's comfortably been faster.

Haven't seen him that happy after a race in a long while
 
Well to be honest I'm currently in Italy with a rubbish connection so I missed most of the race (and qualifying) but from what I saw Sainz, who has shown to be nowhere near Max/Leclerc's level, was able to keep on Max's arse for the final 16 laps. Yes he had DRS but normally I would expect Max to be able to push for a few laps and create enough of a gap to get out of DRS but he couldn't despite driving well by all accounts. That combined with the fact that Leclerc was able to match Max's best lap in P2 and the fact that Ferrari was faster last week (before they all broke down in spectacular fashion of course) leads me to believe that the Ferrari is the car to beat on raw pace. They've just not been reliable enough to profit from that. But I could be wrong of course. Was certainly an entertaining GP :)

The Ferrari doesn't have anywhere near the straight line speed that the Red Bull has - we've seen that a few times this year with the Leclerc/Max battles - and on top of that it's a lot less gentle on the tyres than the Red Bull is. Given that the RB can go faster for longer, and its strength is in overtaking (and defending against overtaking), it's fair to say that it's got better race pace. Added to the lack of reliability, and the country mile between the two teams when it comes to strategy, and the Red Bull is clearly the car to beat.
 
I think overall pace is similar. However Red Bull have the greater straight line speed, which is a huge advantage in the DRS era. Been a fair few races where it’s come down to Max either holding off a Ferrari with DRS or going past using DRS towards the end of a race
Which is what I'm getting at and why I believe red bulls race pace is better and overall the car to beat
The Ferrari doesn't have anywhere near the straight line speed that the Red Bull has - we've seen that a few times this year with the Leclerc/Max battles - and on top of that it's a lot less gentle on the tyres than the Red Bull is. Given that the RB can go faster for longer, and its strength is in overtaking (and defending against overtaking), it's fair to say that it's got better race pace. Added to the lack of reliability, and the country mile between the two teams when it comes to strategy, and the Red Bull is clearly the car to beat.
This sums it up well.
 
fair enough I can see that.

I do think it's interesting though that the 2 races where there hasn't been big bouncing he's comfortably been faster.

Haven't seen him that happy after a race in a long while

I've noticed this as well. I saw some comparison photos of their different setups last couple races and it was quite obvious they both ran completely different setups. Today I read Lewis' setup was similar to George and yes he was faster. Russell still got his top 5 streak going and is doing well, but it will be interesting to see where it goes if they use similar setups more often.
 
The Ferrari doesn't have anywhere near the straight line speed that the Red Bull has - we've seen that a few times this year with the Leclerc/Max battles - and on top of that it's a lot less gentle on the tyres than the Red Bull is. Given that the RB can go faster for longer, and its strength is in overtaking (and defending against overtaking), it's fair to say that it's got better race pace. Added to the lack of reliability, and the country mile between the two teams when it comes to strategy, and the Red Bull is clearly the car to beat.

Technically speaking Red Bull is more unreliable.

4 mechanical DNFs and one race 30hp down for Perez. Also Red bull have had more issues in practice if my memory serves correctly. Max getting next to no practice in Miami for instance.

Versus 3 Ferrari Mechanical DNFs
 
I enjoyed this race. Really wish it was Leclerc battling with Max at the end there though, instead of Sainz.

Max is a fecking impressive bastard though. Consistently excellent.
 
I'm impressed with how reliable the Mercedes engine has been so far. I don't think any of the Mercedes-powered teams have had a single failure yet, have they?

Could put them in good standing later in the season when other teams have to take grid penalties.
 
I'm impressed with how reliable the Mercedes engine has been so far. I don't think any of the Mercedes-powered teams have had a single failure yet, have they?

Could put them in good standing later in the season when other teams have to take grid penalties.
Yeah somebody posted that before, I had not noticed it, last season they had a reliability problem, that's one thing they seem to have sorted.
 
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I use to like lando but he’s suddenly starting to come across as a bit of a brat. Lewis vibes without the points on the board to justify it…

Danny Ric is starting to get to grips with the car which isn’t going to please the man the cars been built for too much.
 
Many drivers would've made a mistake there under pressure, but Max didn't crack. I also take into account the entire weekend tbh.

Charles p5 was to be expected. I actually think first half of the race he was underperforming. Was stuck behind Ocon for ages, but then finally found his pace after a couple of (v)sc's. Decent drive, but nothing spectacular considering the difference in performance with the cars he was racing.

Leclerc was excellent, his strategy was terrible though and there is a reason he was stuck behind the likes of Ocon. Even when they pitted him they made a mistake when to do it and he was stuck in crowd again, absolutwly ridiculous strategy.

Once he got new tires he made two great overtakes against Alpines where no one even tried, I believe Alonso was stunned by that.
 
I use to like lando but he’s suddenly starting to come across as a bit of a brat. Lewis vibes without the points on the board to justify it…

Danny Ric is starting to get to grips with the car which isn’t going to please the man the cars been built for too much.
This is one of the worst takes I've seen on here and that takes some beating :lol:

Bratty how exactly? becuase he's annoyed at the team being completely amateur and leaving him sat in the pitlane without any tyres? or because the car is dog slow?

No points on the board? he's in 7th place with literally TRIPLE the points of Ricciardo. Perhaps if Ricciardo stopped bumbling around in 10th-15th place all year and actually drove like a lead driver, he wouldn't be in this position. The guy is washed.
 
Commentators were saying Ferrari was 21 kmph quicker than red bull but on the corners, red bull was good. I thought it was the other way around but who am I to question them
 
My thoughts on the race

I am super happy about Hamilton's podium place and especially the timing of it. Here's to hoping he and Mercedes will carry that momentum to Silverstone, because by God we need it.

Super pissed about Ferrari. Power unit problems and 5 second pit stop for tyre change and so many little things went wrong. If not for the safety car at an opportune moment for Sainz, it was not a good performance from the team. Whether Sainz is good enough or not, they are badly letting down their drivers. Red bull consistently makes good decisions on their race although they have DNF problems this season.

World champion like performance from the world champion. Verstappen is approaching zen level performances this season. Thoroughly deserved win and a great driving performance only bettered by his super awesome qualifiying lap in wet conditions this week.

What is going on with Alonso and alpine? He could have tire changes at many points but stayed out. Is it he who stayed out or did his team feck it up? Sky commentators were suggesting that the pit stop was offered to him but he didn't take it. Weird.
 
This is one of the worst takes I've seen on here and that takes some beating :lol:

Bratty how exactly? becuase he's annoyed at the team being completely amateur and leaving him sat in the pitlane without any tyres? or because the car is dog slow?

No points on the board? he's in 7th place with literally TRIPLE the points of Ricciardo. Perhaps if Ricciardo stopped bumbling around in 10th-15th place all year and actually drove like a lead driver, he wouldn't be in this position. The guy is washed.

Calm down, Lando.
 
Commentators were saying Ferrari was 21 kmph quicker than red bull but on the corners, red bull was good. I thought it was the other way around but who am I to question them

Slipstream + DRS.

Max was better in sector 1 + Hairpin which kept him safe in the end.

If the roles where reversed and Max was behind he likely would have got Sainz for those reasons.
 
This is one of the worst takes I've seen on here and that takes some beating :lol:

Bratty how exactly? becuase he's annoyed at the team being completely amateur and leaving him sat in the pitlane without any tyres? or because the car is dog slow?

No points on the board? he's in 7th place with literally TRIPLE the points of Ricciardo. Perhaps if Ricciardo stopped bumbling around in 10th-15th place all year and actually drove like a lead driver, he wouldn't be in this position. The guy is washed.
Ricardo has a win for McLaren… something Lando doesn’t have…
 
I'm calm, it's just a stupid statement to make. There seems to be a running theme in his posts though so i'm not surprised.

my own personal take is that i’d fecking hate to be spoken to like lando and max speak to their pit crews when things are going bad or a decision hasn’t been optimal. all of the drivers are whiny when things aren’t going their way but those two come across as teenagers moaning at their parents for everything wrong in their lives. the majority of the other drivers tend to moan more like disappointed dads at their kids.
 
Ricardo has a win for McLaren… something Lando doesn’t have…
Because the team told them to hold stations and not let Lando attack?

Anyway, even Maldonado and Ocon have wins in f1. Doesn't mean they're better.
 
my own personal take is that i’d fecking hate to be spoken to like lando and max speak to their pit crews when things are going bad or a decision hasn’t been optimal. all of the drivers are whiny when things aren’t going their way but those two come across as teenagers moaning at their parents for everything wrong in their lives. the majority of the other drivers tend to moan more like disappointed dads at their kids.
Yeah I understand that, but I guess it's part and parcel of being their engineer. You have to take it on the chin and remain cool.

I like Verstappens engineer, he seems to have found the right balance of listening but keeping him in his place also. I thought his clap back of 'we didnt have the pace' when Max asked why he got brought out behind the Mercedes was pretty funny.
 
my own personal take is that i’d fecking hate to be spoken to like lando and max speak to their pit crews when things are going bad or a decision hasn’t been optimal. all of the drivers are whiny when things aren’t going their way but those two come across as teenagers moaning at their parents for everything wrong in their lives. the majority of the other drivers tend to moan more like disappointed dads at their kids.

Verstappen is not worse than Schumacher or Hamilton tbh. Maybe all winners are the same
 
Thought that was a great race, enjoyed it. That battle between Sainz and Max was a good one. Was hoping Sainz was going to nick it. Happy for Hamilton and Mercedes. Still think if Perez and Leclerc had been 'normal' then it would of ended up without a Mercedes in the 3-4.
 
Yeah I understand that, but I guess it's part and parcel of being their engineer. You have to take it on the chin and remain cool.

I like Verstappens engineer, he seems to have found the right balance of listening but keeping him in his place also. I thought his clap back of 'we didnt have the pace' when Max asked why he got brought out behind the Mercedes was pretty funny.

yeah, thought that was great and what’s been missing for a while with max, i think he’d have benefitted from being put back in his box a little more often when he’s ranting and raving.

Verstappen is not worse than Schumacher or Hamilton tbh. Maybe all winners are the same

winners don’t like losing and hamilton of yesteryear was as bad, i thought ron dennis did a good job of sorting him out though. he still moans now but it’s done with a far more level head and it’s not a ranting and raving scream about how his engineer has ruined his life/race. it’s a “guys, why did we make that call, i said we should have stayed out.” he’s clearly pissed off but it’s done in a way where i’d respond to it better if i was in his team. half of max’s are silent because the expletives have been cut by the race director and it’s hard to pick up the other part as it’s just a scream.
 
I'm 34 and I still lose my shit at people if they misplace an easy pass to me during our casual five a side game of astro. If anything it impresses me that the worst young professional f1 drivers do is curse at their team. I'd probably have gone full on Mr. Mercedes if I was Lando yesterday.
 
Lando has always been entitled and a but nobbish. It's a shame he's half decent and so will be sticking around.
 
Pretends to be shocked that the son of a multi millionaire can come across as entitled and arrogant.
 
Leclerc was excellent, his strategy was terrible though and there is a reason he was stuck behind the likes of Ocon. Even when they pitted him they made a mistake when to do it and he was stuck in crowd again, absolutwly ridiculous strategy.

Once he got new tires he made two great overtakes against Alpines where no one even tried, I believe Alonso was stunned by that.

They made a good call when to bring Leclerc in but they screwed it all up by having a 5.8sec pitstop or something along those lines.

I'd give anything to have 2-3 races in a row where drivers and crew all performed, the team made good strategy calls and the cars stayed in one piece, but since this is Ferrari we're talking about I'd probably be better off asking for a unicorn.
 
At least he's not a robot like Russell, though.
Yeah, this! Russell bothers me way more due to his lack of emotions. And his PR like response everytime. Same with Rosberg. Seems so fake.

Anyway, I wouldn't take anything that's said on radio too seriously. These guys are driving insane speeds, and competing with each other. It's not like they have a lot of time to logically think things through before speaking. If anything, just fecking remove publicising it so that fans can moan less.
 
Yeah, this! Russell bothers me way more due to his lack of emotions. And his PR like response everytime. Same with Rosberg. Seems so fake.

Anyway, I wouldn't take anything that's said on radio too seriously. These guys are driving insane speeds, and competing with each other. It's not like they have a lot of time to logically think things through before speaking. If anything, just fecking remove publicising it so that fans can moan less.
Agreed, not sure it really adds anything unless it's a tactical radio call.

Imagine if footballers were mic'd up :lol:
 
They made a good call when to bring Leclerc in but they screwed it all up by having a 5.8sec pitstop or something along those lines.

I'd give anything to have 2-3 races in a row where drivers and crew all performed, the team made good strategy calls and the cars stayed in one piece, but since this is Ferrari we're talking about I'd probably be better off asking for a unicorn.

I think he lost lot of time behind Ocon(?) and couple of other drivers when he was already on old tires and it was time to pit. And again lost lot of time after pitting because he was again stuck in the crowd, but I think those 10-15 laps before first pit stop was when he lost at least 10-15 seconds for nothing.
 
Yeah, this! Russell bothers me way more due to his lack of emotions. And his PR like response everytime. Same with Rosberg. Seems so fake.

Anyway, I wouldn't take anything that's said on radio too seriously. These guys are driving insane speeds, and competing with each other. It's not like they have a lot of time to logically think things through before speaking. If anything, just fecking remove publicising it so that fans can moan less.

Bit surprised that young George Russell seems to be getting so much stick here.
To me, he comes across as highly professional. Both as a driver, as well as the way he handles himself.
It he lacks emotion, that is just how he is.
I just think that he is being a bit guarded in his first full year as a Mercedes driver. He was markedly less so with Williams.

Anyway, I prefer to judge him on his driving performance. And that has been exceptional this year. Especially with such a difficult car.
Give the guy some credit.
 
Bit surprised that young George Russell seems to be getting so much stick here.
To me, he comes across as highly professional. Both as a driver, as well as the way he handles himself.
It he lacks emotion, that is just how he is.
I just think that he is being a bit guarded in his first full year as a Mercedes driver. He was markedly less so with Williams.

Anyway, I prefer to judge him on his driving performance. And that has been exceptional this year. Especially with such a difficult car.
Give the guy some credit.
He's an awful boring cnut, though.