F1 2022 Season

Latifi is still an awful driver, really shouldnt be in F1.

Pretty impressive from leclerc, the ferrari had some porposing on the back straight after T9 and still got pole with 0.3 ahead of max.

Interesting that Sky F1 mentioned that this years RB has a tendency to oversteer which Perez likes but Max doesnt. No dobut RB working to sort that out. Their suspension setup is really impressive you hardly see any porposing on the onboards for max and perez.

Mercedes got lucky that Sainz and Alonso messed up (alonso could have been top 4). Thry will be delighted with p5 and p6. That car looks undriveable at times. Martin Brundle mentioned that in the slow mo's you could see the contact patch of the tyre leaving the ground. They need the new floor asap, not sure if it will be ready for imola.

Good to see McLaren up there, though they may slip back down the order for imola as their boss said that Melbourne circuit layout is hiding some of their deficiencies.

Will be interesting to see if Haas and Alpha Tauri lack of competitiveness is due to this track or that others have made more improvements/starting to understand their cars better.
 
I think Mercedes are at their level P5 and 6, still shocked they brought no upgrades.
Alonso was on a good lap and would have been top 4, but race pace I don't think he would beat either Russell or Lewis. Agreed that car looks horrible at time, but I think the power is there, just cant put it all down with the aero they are running.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
I think Mercedes are at their level P5 and 6, still shocked they brought no upgrades.
Alonso was on a good lap and would have been top 4, but race pace I don't think he would beat either Russell or Lewis. Agreed that car looks horrible at time, but I think the power is there, just cant put it all down with the aero they are running.
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Alonso said afterwards he thinks he could have gotta pole. Not sure about that, but its a shame we wont find out. On a sidenote, Alpine boss mentioned that they have one of the strongest/rigid floors on the grid as it was designed like that from the beginning so they didnt need to use stays like many other teams have done. What that has mean is that the Alpine is heavier than it should be and as they reduce the weight of the car with upgrades it should get quicker.

In regards to Mercedes, there was talk at the start of the week of updates being brought to this GP but they didnt materialise. Maybe they weren't ready? Or decided to delay till imola?

There were three teams affected by the DHL issues this week. Basically the DHL ships taking parts to Australia were delayed. They docked at Singapore and the F1 containers transferred to, some jumbo jets by DHL and flown to Australia to get to the GP in time. It affected, three teams on the grid but they werent named. Could have been the teams that brought no upgrades to this gp.

I agree there is a quick car in there somewhere, but until the porposing is resolved we wont know. One of the analysts on The Race website mentioned that the Mercedes is producing alot of downforce, hence the extreme porposing. Get the porposing resolved and they will be quick as they will be able to run the car with less wing and therefore less drag.
 
dinostar77 said:
Alonso said afterwards he thinks he could have gotta pole. Not sure about that, but its a shame we wont find out. On a sidenote, Alpine boss mentioned that they have one of the strongest/rigid floors on the grid as it was designed like that from the beginning so they didnt need to use stays like many other teams have done. What that has mean is that the Alpine is heavier than it should be and as they reduce the weight of the car with upgrades it should get quicker.

In regards to Mercedes, there was talk at the start of the week of updates being brought to this GP but they didnt materialise. Maybe they weren't ready? Or decided to delay till imola?

There were three teams affected by the DHL issues this week. Basically the DHL ships taking parts to Australia were delayed. They docked at Singapore and the F1 containers transferred to, some jumbo jets by DHL and flown to Australia to get to the GP in time. It affected, three teams on the grid but they werent named. Could have been the teams that brought no upgrades to this gp.

I agree there is a quick car in there somewhere, but until the porposing is resolved we wont know. One of the analysts on The Race website mentioned that the Mercedes is producing alot of downforce, hence the extreme porposing. Get the porposing resolved and they will be quick as they will be able to run the car with less wing and therefore less drag.
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I posted about the DHL problem, yeah may be the reason some had no upgrades, in Mercedes case maybe just not ready.
Solving the proposing is the crux of the Mercedes problem, I think , get that sorted and like you say, they can run with less wing, I do think we will see the real Mercedes this season , but not in time for Lewis to get number 8, but win races later in the season, yes I think so.
Alonso thinks he could have got pole, I don't think so.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
I think Mercedes are at their level P5 and 6, still shocked they brought no upgrades.
Alonso was on a good lap and would have been top 4, but race pace I don't think he would beat either Russell or Lewis. Agreed that car looks horrible at time, but I think the power is there, just cant put it all down with the aero they are running.
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Great to see Mclaren competing a little more. Lando said it might just be because this track suits their car rather than any changes. Will be interesting to see.

Lewis commented that if you push the Mercedes too hard it is spiteful and bites back "like a viper or a rattlesnake" :lol:. Sounds tetchy.
According to Toto, they are working on a long term solution because until the fundamental problem(s) are fixed there is no point looking at small gains.

One another note, what was Stroll doing!

And congrats to Leclerc. I like him but I feel like he lacks the nastiness/ruthlessness to win a close title battle with the likes of Verstappen or Hamilton (unlikely).
 
I think Imola is a defining moment for Mercedes this season. They need to show some forward development. If the upgrades they bring doesn't bring them closer to RB and ferrari then its hard to see this season being anything more than a failure from a design and performance point of view.
 
Will you lot wake up early for this race, stay up super late or just miss it and watch the highlights?
 
Alex Albon has been disqualified from the results of qualifying for the Australian Grand Prix, after his Williams team were unable to provide the FIA with a sufficient fuel sample from his FW44.

Albon took P16 in qualifying in Melbourne, faring better than his luckless team mate Nicholas Latifi, who was swiped by Aston Martin’s Lance Stroll into a heavy crash in Q1, for which Stroll received a three-place grid drop.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...-fuel-irregularity.PUsXr9QdhRWPRivVAgDWl.html
 
They did some sectors time checking on sky italy and came to the conclusion that Sainz's red flagged lap would have been good for pole(and P3 by the end)...
 
WeePat said:
Will you lot wake up early for this race, stay up super late or just miss it and watch the highlights?
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If i can get away with having the tv to myself at 6am till the race ends then yes, watch it live though my toddler might disagree. Otherwise as with the races this season so far, i watch them after 7pm when my toddler has gone to bed so i can relax and watch and chill without distraction.
 
flameinthesun said:
I think Imola is a defining moment for Mercedes this season. They need to show some forward development. If the upgrades they bring doesn't bring them closer to RB and ferrari then its hard to see this season being anything more than a failure from a design and performance point of view.
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I would have said race 6 at Barcelona would be the one to aim for. One of those circuits that tests every aspect of your car (as boring a circuit as it is to watch). Mercedes need to get ontop of the porposing by then because the race after that is Monaco, where you definitely eventually crash out if your car is bouncing under braking. Then we have three superfast circuits, Azerbaijan (you dont want to be bouncing up and down at 190mph), canada and Silverstone.

So for me Spainish gp is key, if they miss that window, then Silverstone must be the last chance before you give up and work on next seasons car (if there are any small tweaks to the rules for next seasons car).
 
According to Adam Cooper, Alpine were the team asking for the new DRS zone to be removed. It looks like they've got a rocket in a straight line and benefitted from it being removed.

According to Viaplay (Finland) Alonso was the most vocal one to ask it to be removed.

Let's hope there's just one zone at Imola.
 
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Alonso Onboard Q3 lap. See how negligible porpoising is on his car.

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It still does bounce a fair amount down the straight but it's working very well. Alonso seems very at home with it. Nice to see him in a fast car again, a shame for him he didnt get top 4 like he should have today.
 
Adam-Utd said:
It still does bounce a fair amount down the straight but it's working very well. Alonso seems very at home with it. Nice to see him in a fast car again, a shame for him he didnt get top 4 like he should have today.
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That onboard footage of Sainz’s head bobbing up and down was scary, this can’t be good long term for any of the drivers.
 
pacifictheme said:
Yeah agreed. Unlucky for latifi to be involved. Stroll has a history of this and his interview after qualifying was class. A man who knows he is very much in the wrong.

He's done this sort of thing so many times. Worst driver on the grid, especially when it comes to awareness.
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dinostar77 said:
Latifi is still an awful driver, really shouldnt be in F1.

Pretty impressive from leclerc, the ferrari had some porposing on the back straight after T9 and still got pole with 0.3 ahead of max.

Interesting that Sky F1 mentioned that this years RB has a tendency to oversteer which Perez likes but Max doesnt. No dobut RB working to sort that out. Their suspension setup is really impressive you hardly see any porposing on the onboards for max and perez.

Mercedes got lucky that Sainz and Alonso messed up (alonso could have been top 4). Thry will be delighted with p5 and p6. That car looks undriveable at times. Martin Brundle mentioned that in the slow mo's you could see the contact patch of the tyre leaving the ground. They need the new floor asap, not sure if it will be ready for imola.

Good to see McLaren up there, though they may slip back down the order for imola as their boss said that Melbourne circuit layout is hiding some of their deficiencies.

Will be interesting to see if Haas and Alpha Tauri lack of competitiveness is due to this track or that others have made more improvements/starting to understand their cars better.
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Agreed with both of the bolded here - Latifi is definitely a poor driver, but at the same time this is somehow Stroll's 6th season in F1 and as such he really should be doing better.

I don't personally think Stroll is the absolute worst driver on the grid on any given weekend, but I do think he's the worst when career experience and trajectory are taken into account. The number of absurd and ridiculous mistakes he is still making is astonishing.
 


Confirmation of no penalty for Checo for possible infraction of the Russell yellow flag in Q2 - seems like the right decision given the telemetry data.
 
Dan said:
That onboard footage of Sainz’s head bobbing up and down was scary, this can’t be good long term for any of the drivers.
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Crazy isnt it. No idea how they manage to pick braking zones at that sort of speed while bouncing like that. His vision must be ruined surely.

I'm surprised F1 is allowing it to happen really.
 
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Adam-Utd said:
Crazy isnt it. No idea how they manage to pick braking zones at that sort of speed while bouncing like that. His vision must be ruined surely.

I'm surprised F1 is allowing it to happen really.
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Its a catch 22 situation. Simulations and CFD work cant replicate the porposing effect. The only way to understand it, is to run the cars on the circuit and trial and error etc. Therefore the drivers have to suffer through it.

FIA could raise the ride height of all the cars to a minimum but that doesnt fix the underlying issue. Active suspension which would fix it in a heartbeat is banned as are mass dampers.

Its pretty ridiculous F1 have found themselves in this situation but short of a huge accident caused by porposing or health issues caused by it affecting drivers i dont think they will do anything.
 
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dinostar77 said:
I expect Alonso and Sainz to get b

Its a catch 22 situation. Simulations and CFD work cant replicate the porposing effect. The only way to understand it, is to run the cars on the circuit and trial and error etc. Therefore the drivers have to suffer through it.

FIA could raise the ride height of all the cars to a minimum but that doesnt fix the underlying issue. Active suspension which would fix it in a heartbeat is banned as are mass dampers.

Its pretty ridiculous F1 have found themselves in this situation but short of a huge accident caused by porposing or health issues caused by it affecting drivers i dont think they will do anything.
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The effect is nothing new and I think all expected some element of it - but as you say the adaptive suspension of previous years basically eliminated it.

i'm sure they'll get round it eventually but it's not really a great look for the formula IMO. They should change the rules next year IMO.
 
Adam-Utd said:
The effect is nothing new and I think all expected some element of it - but as you say the adaptive suspension of previous years basically eliminated it.

i'm sure they'll get round it eventually but it's not really a great look for the formula IMO. They should change the rules next year IMO.
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the solution might be as simple as looking at MotoGP and their right height devises. Not actually an electronic aid but mechanical which involves moving the gas around in the shock absorbers to increase and lower ride height etc.

Works the same way as adaptive suspension but is operated by the riders not electronics.
 
Oil leak on Fernando's car this morning.
Can this guy not get a break.


Maybe Alonso should try sacrificing some goats....
 
Why is everyone just blaming Stroll? Latifi is as much to blame for being an idiot. Who the feck lets a guy overtake during qualifying only to try and overtake the next turn.
 
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