Every player's wages

[Rightnr]

He did like so many others, having a great first season.. then it got rough, he was absolutely not continuing hes hot run. By the time he got arrested he was beeing very poor. Very...

Even the likes of Rashford was way ahead when it comes to raw talent.

Im not SAF or anything so i might be wrong, but he would never ever become on the same level as the new boys out there. The Napoli guys, Mbappe, Haaland, Alvarez, Vini, Musliera there raw talent is just completely on another level.

And that is what the big clubs look into. Not a Mason Greenwood.

Someone clearly has never watched us play with Greenwood. The guy was winning us games single-handedly and he wasn't even playing striker.

With someone like EtH in charge, I think he would have been Mbappe level and I don't usually exaggerate.

Shame he turned out to be a scumbag but rewriting history is just plain silly.

 

[bosnian_red]

With all due respect but paying huge salaries for 'potential' is a bit silly. I mean what happens if a player doesn't realise his potential? Would we be saddles with a 200k-350k reserve player for life? What happens if he does achieve that potential? Would we then give him a contract extension of 500k a week?

Oh 100% stupid to give him that wage to start off. I'm saying of those that I highlighted as problem wages, his is the only one where "it might work out" as he has the potential to just meet that salary and he has a long term starting 11 spot. Sancho is on 350k but he's locked behind Rashford long term, so his max is a squad player essentially. Basically 4 of our top 10 earners shouldn't be starting games for us next season and aren't good enough for the roles.

 

[Tom Cato]

How Antony managed to get 200k when no other club was in for him is beyond me, he managed to bump himself up 10 times of his previous wages. Props to him and his agents, they sure rinsed the clueless people in charge of this club.

Antony was a marquee signing. His salary was always going to be respectful of that fact. £200k pw is well, well within the line of the rest of the first team hierarchy. You offer salaries based on the current wage structure of the club, not what other clubs would have given him.

His wages are correct in relation to the rest of the squads salaries.

You cant compare what other clubs are paying their players and use that as any reference.

I dont think Antony is having a good first season, nor that he is delivering at a level that warrants those kind of wages, but the club put themselves in a spot where they offer up high wages to everyone. He wasnt going to be offered less money than bench players ahead of a big money transfer.

The restructure of the salaries need to be done in steps and through re-signing players at a lower rate than they are currently paid if that is the clubs ambition going forward.

 

[top1whoisman]

always question how anyone would know these figures. I imagine even the players don't discuss it with each other for the most part.

Same as how does anyone know transfer fees (outside of some countries that publish them openly). There's always agents, managers and club officials happy to talk to the press anonymous.

 

[DJ Jeff]

He did like so many others, having a great first season.. then it got rough, he was absolutely not continuing hes hot run. By the time he got arrested he was beeing very poor. Very...

Even the likes of Rashford was way ahead when it comes to raw talent.

Im not SAF or anything so i might be wrong, but he would never ever become on the same level as the new boys out there. The Napoli guys, Mbappe, Haaland, Alvarez, Vini, Musliera there raw talent is just completely on another level.

And that is what the big clubs look into. Not a Mason Greenwood.

Greenwood was the most talented youngster this club had since Rooney

 

[Tom Cato]

always question how anyone would know these figures. I imagine even the players don't discuss it with each other for the most part.

There are dozens of people that will be aware of a players salary, from agents to accountants. Its the type of infomation that is about as secure as the US Congress on election day

 

[Ekeke]

4 of the top 5 arent worth it and 6 of the top 10

Dalot and Martinez will get a bump up in the future

 

[harms]

Im not SAF or anything so i might be wrong, but he would never ever become on the same level as the new boys out there. The Napoli guys, Mbappe, Haaland, Alvarez, Vini, Musliera there raw talent is just completely on another level.

You said it, not me. Khvicha at his age was a decent prospect playing at Russia (and he was far from the hottest one), same can he said about a lot of the rest from your list, Mbappé & Haaland excluded.

Muslera is about to retire, I believe.

 

[roonster09]

I don't know how clued up Spotrac are on this stuff

One of the worst.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Same as how does anyone know transfer fees (outside of some countries that publish them openly). There's always agents, managers and club officials happy to talk to the press anonymous.

I always take wage with an extra pinch of salt though - the club has no interest to leak it so it’ll come from the agent side and they are heavily incentivised to make out they got their client the best deal.

For all we know someone on 200k a week is on 100k with lots of variable bonus and kickers based on appearances, goals, assists, minutes played, cup appearances etc. I have no doubt we overpay but I doubt those figures are that accurate.

 

[Todd]

Dalot criminally low with how much he has improved

 

[sglowrider]

Dalot criminally low with how much he has improved

Thats criminal? Brandon Williams is paid more than McTom, a full Scottish international versus the current temporary U-21 captain.

 

[FattyFooty]

please explain how the Club could possibly know that there would be a scandal involving Greenwood?

You would be wrong then. By some accounts, he was the most valuable or 2nd most valuable young player in the world. I think I saw figures like £140m.

Yeah, but that was most likely after season 1. And i doubt anyone actually would bid something like that.

 

[arnie_ni]

Someone clearly has never watched us play with Greenwood. The guy was winning us games single-handedly and he wasn't even playing striker.

With someone like EtH in charge, I think he would have been Mbappe level and I don't usually exaggerate.

Shame he turned out to be a scumbag but rewriting history is just plain silly.

He was one of the best finishers I've seen. I discussed multiple times on this board putting on a bet that he'd break Rooneys record.

He had everything to be world class

 

[FattyFooty]

You said it, not me. Khvicha at his age was a decent prospect playing at Russia (and he was far from the hottest one), same can he said about a lot of the rest from your list, Mbappé & Haaland excluded.

Muslera is about to retire, I believe.

Ok. Im sobering up, i still stand that he was atleast how i remeber it better and more valuebal after season 1.

And yeah he might not be far from the others IF you take Haaland and Mbappe out.

I still think its to high sallary for a kid from the academy.

I ment that german guy in bayerns midfield. (My bad)

 

[devilish]

Oh 100% stupid to give him that wage to start off. I'm saying of those that I highlighted as problem wages, his is the only one where "it might work out" as he has the potential to just meet that salary and he has a long term starting 11 spot. Sancho is on 350k but he's locked behind Rashford long term, so his max is a squad player essentially. Basically 4 of our top 10 earners shouldn't be starting games for us next season and aren't good enough for the roles.

In theory your argument makes sense but in practice it's poorly applicable. That's because young talent is unpredictable even when the player does make it to the top (let alone when it does not). Take Scholes for example. He was supposed to become a striker but he ended a CM which meant that Nicky Butt (who was thought to be paul ince's successor) ended a reserve. Our current squad is filled with these sort of players. Rashy started as a striker but he became a LW. Greenwood was supposed to be STK as well but he did better as RW. I am sure that Ole thought that Sancho would sort his RW issues but it didn't work that well so far

As a rule we should have a tier salary system that clearly distinguish between young talent with potential (ex Antony, sancho, Greenwood etc) and regular first teamers/dead certs (ex casemiro, ddg or varane)

 

[bosnian_red]

In theory your argument makes sense but in practice it's poorly applicable. That's because young talent is unpredictable even when the player does make it to the top (let alone when it does not). Take Scholes for example. He was supposed to become a striker but he ended a CM which meant that Nicky Butt (who was thought to be paul ince's successor) ended a reserve. Our current squad is filled with these sort of players. Rashy started as a striker but he became a LW. Greenwood was supposed to be STK as well but he did better as RW. I am sure that Ole thought that Sancho would sort his RW issues but it didn't work that well so far

As a rule we should have a tier salary system that clearly distinguish between young talent with potential (ex Antony, sancho, Greenwood etc) and regular first teamers/dead certs (ex casemiro, ddg or varane)

Yup our wage system is all over the place and really should have tiers as you say. Guys making about 200k should be experienced and important players who have also proven they deserve it. Guys like Antony should be signing between 100-150k. Rashford with this contract now is where it's fair to negotiate for that 250k+ range.

350k+ is just unnecessary unless they're an undisputed one of the best in the world and bring marketing boosts.

 

[Lee565]

It's only until number 10 on this list where I start to think the wages aren't crazy, rashford may be good this season but he was not 200k a week when he signed the contract for them wages and as good as casimero and varane are they are ridiculous wages for a defender and defensive midfielder

 

[Kush]

I don't quite understand why we needed to pay Sancho so much to get his signature. If we'd offered him half that, it would still have been far more than his Dortmund pay.

Sancho was earning £190,000 a week at Dortmund, they weren't paying him pennies over there.

 

[devil99]

Ok. Im sobering up, i still stand that he was atleast how i remeber it better and more valuebal after season 1.

And yeah he might not be far from the others IF you take Haaland and Mbappe out.

I still think its to high sallary for a kid from the academy.

I ment that german guy in bayerns midfield. (My bad)

He is on 75k, not 175k or 275k. How much was Haaland and Mbappe when they were in BVB and Monaco respectively ? They were also of similar potential with their previous clubs. And remember MG play for Man United, so gonna earn little better

 

[shamans]

Damn Elanga doesn’t make all that much? Surprising to me I sort of assumed someone with that many caps is making typical footballer F U money

 

[Smores]

Dalot getting a third of Jones salary. Imagine how frustrating that would be

 

[shamans]

It's only until number 10 on this list where I start to think the wages aren't crazy, rashford may be good this season but he was not 200k a week when he signed the contract for them wages and as good as casimero and varane are they are ridiculous wages for a defender and defensive midfielder

yes but let’s be real. Player of their caliber going to join Man United of today will have to be convinced somehow.

 

[PSV]

I feel this list tells a tale about when their wages get pumped, it's usually when signing and not when extending:

Player	Club	Old Wage	New Wage	Increase
Sancho	Dortmund	£2 830 768,00​	£18 200 000,00​	542,94 %​
Casemiro	Real Madrid	£9 677 688,00​	£18 200 000,00​	88,06 %​
Varane	Real Madrid	£15 109 224,00​	£17 680 000,00​	17,01 %​
Martial	Monaco	£505 115,00​	£5 720 000,00​	1032,42 %​
Fernandes	Sporting CP	£2 538 845,00​	£9 360 000,00​	268,67 %​
Antony	Ajax	£1 344 615,00​	£10 400 000,00​	673,46 %​
Maguire	Leicester	£4 680 000,00​	£9 880 000,00​	111,11 %​
Eriksen*	Inter	£8 509 996,00​	£7 800 000,00​	-8,34 %​
Eriksen*	Brentford	£3 120 000,00​	£7 800 000,00​	150,00 %​
Shaw	Southampton	£1 300 000,00​	£5 720 000,00​	340,00 %​
Fred	Shakhtar	£1 750 044,00​	£6 240 000,00​	256,56 %​
Lindelof	Benfica	£337 038,00​	£3 900 000,00​	1057,14 %​
Martinez	Ajax	£1 061 538,00​	£6 240 000,00​	487,83 %​
van de Beek	Ajax	£2 211 538,00​	£6 240 000,00​	182,16 %​
Wan-Bissaka	Crystal Palace	£780 000,00​	£4 680 000,00​	500,00 %​
Malacia	Feyenoord	£345 000,00​	£3 900 000,00​	1030,43 %​
Heaton	Aston Villa	£2 080 000,00​	£2 300 000,00​	10,58 %​
Dalot	Porto	£137 115,00​	£1 300 000,00​	848,11 %​

Given Antony and Martinez' wages you start to wonder if anything has really changed.

(Note: The weird numbers are because they were paid in euros, source is www.capology.com, its probably as good a guess as the rest)

 

[Jim Beam]

Sancho's contract is pure madness (leaving transfer fee aside). Those kind of figures are reserved for a very few, proven world-class players that come at their very peak. There was zero sense in making him the best paid outfield player from day 1.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Dalot getting a third of Jones salary. Imagine how frustrating that would be

Jones has a league medal.

 

[AbusementPark]

I might be underating hes talent a bit.

But i also think people are overating hes talent a bit.

I doubt anyone can change my mind, especially not with: dude! You know knothing about football!

Explain to me why he was considered world talent. Why is he in the same bracket as: Haaland, Mbappe, Ronaldo, Messi and the likes of those who also been called world talents. What is Greenwood doing there?

But yeah im open for changing my mind. But can anyone explain to me why he is conisdered to have been one of the biggest talents in the world?

His shooting ability was phenomenal, power and accuracy of his shots was fantastic. He was still raw and needed a lot of guidance and to play in a more structured team. If he was available this season with ETH then you would have seen the best of him. No one compares to Haaland or Mbappe, these guys have played regularly in well coached teams.

If his legal problems had arisen then his career would be on a different trajectory but as it didn’t then we will never know how it would have shaped up. I’m not advocating that he’s the worlds best player or anything like that but based on the talent he has he could be considered one of the best in the right environment.

 

[AbusementPark]

Rashford is the least of our worries with some of the contracts other players have.

Yes but we have to start as we mean to go on, rewarding Rashford for a very good season is important but overpaying isn’t the way forward. Negotiating new signings and associated contracts, would compare to what is currently being given out rather than what is historically being paid.

The board have recognised that inflated wages are an issue amongst the team and are looking at reducing that, starting with renewals including Shaw, Rashford and DDG.

 

[devilish]

Yup our wage system is all over the place and really should have tiers as you say. Guys making about 200k should be experienced and important players who have also proven they deserve it. Guys like Antony should be signing between 100-150k. Rashford with this contract now is where it's fair to negotiate for that 250k+ range.

350k+ is just unnecessary unless they're an undisputed one of the best in the world and bring marketing boosts.

The trouble is that these things don't work in isolation. Take the RW as an example. United chased Sancho for an entire year when we ended up signing him for 73m. Which meant that

a- we forced the kid in an uncomfortable situation for an entire year
b- with was evident that we were desperate for him
c- he was set to become a big name signing with United which in turn would result to ridiculous heat on him

in such circumstances it would be stupid for his agent not to ask for silly money

Then Sancho failed to reach the expectations set and we got Antony on similar terms. In such circumstances it would be stupid for the Brazilian not to ask a huge salary especially considering the salary his reserve was going to get.

That's the reason why the usually well run Shitty had backed off from going toe to toe on the likes of Maguire, Ronaldo and Sancho with us despite being richer then we are. Certain battles aren't worth to win.

 

[Leftback99]

Sancho's contract is up with Sanchez as the worst value for money in recent years.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

Sancho and Antony transfer fees and wages are crazy especially with their little contribution to the team.

Greenwood wages is fair considering he was going to be one of the world hottest striker. His finishing is just something else. I feel his finishing was even better than Robin Van Persie.

 

[weizxx]

Phil Jones - £75,000（ Pension）

 

[Red Rash]

1. David De Gea - £375,000
2. Jadon Sancho - £350,000
3. Raphael Varane - £340,000
4. Casemiro - £300,000
5. Anthony Martial - £250,000
6. Bruno Fernandes - £240,000
7. Antony - £200,000
8. Marcus Rashford - £200,000
9. Harry Maguire - £189,904
10. Christian Eriksen - £150,000

Does this also consider the salary reduction after missing out on CL football?

The bolded players are on too much. That's not to say they don't have talent but not enough to justify those wages bases on recent performances. Bruno may be contentious but for me after his first 6 months his overall form has dropped off quite substantially and he isn't currently worth 240k per week

 

[FattyFooty]

His shooting ability was phenomenal, power and accuracy of his shots was fantastic. He was still raw and needed a lot of guidance and to play in a more structured team. If he was available this season with ETH then you would have seen the best of him. No one compares to Haaland or Mbappe, these guys have played regularly in well coached teams.

If his legal problems had arisen then his career would be on a different trajectory but as it didn’t then we will never know how it would have shaped up. I’m not advocating that he’s the worlds best player or anything like that but based on the talent he has he could be considered one of the best in the right environment.

Yeah.

His shooting ability was phenomenal, power and accuracy of his shots was fantastic. He was still raw and needed a lot of guidance and to play in a more structured team. If he was available this season with ETH then you would have seen the best of him. No one compares to Haaland or Mbappe, these guys have played regularly in well coached teams.

If his legal problems had arisen then his career would be on a different trajectory but as it didn’t then we will never know how it would have shaped up. I’m not advocating that he’s the worlds best player or anything like that but based on the talent he has he could be considered one of the best in the right environment.

Yeah. I also remeber he was so good with hes weak foot that i didnt really knew what foot he was.

 

[Suedesi]

Problems when relating wage vs what they bring on the pitch in bold:

Man Utd's New Weekly Wages
1. David De Gea - £375,000
2. Jadon Sancho - £350,000
3. Raphael Varane - £340,000
4. Casemiro - £300,000
5. Anthony Martial - £250,000
6. Bruno Fernandes - £240,000
7. Antony - £200,000
8. Marcus Rashford - £200,000
9. Harry Maguire - £189,904
10. Christian Eriksen - £150,000
11. Luke Shaw - £150,000
12. Fred - £120,000
13. Victor Lindelof - £120,000
14. Lisandro Martinez - £120,000
15. Donny van de Beek - £120,000
16. Aaron Wan-Bissaka - £90,000
17. Mason Greenwood - £75,000
18. Phil Jones - £75,000
19. Tyrell Malacia - £75,000
20. Brandon Williams - £65,000
21. Scott McTominay - £60,000
22. Marcel Sabitzer - £55,000
23. Tom Heaton - £41,923
24. Diogo Dalot - £25,000
25. Facundo Pellistri - £20,000
26. Anthony Elanga - £5,000
27. Teden Mengi - £5,000

Antony really the only one who you could say could be worth that in the future and has a long term starter spot, it's just a stupid amount for his first contract here when he was desperate to come. The others we'd all be better off getting rid of. Sancho is a squad player best case here IMO, i do think he has huge potential but if he doesn't develop into a world class #10 to replace Bruno, then he's just a squad player. He's not getting ahead of Rashford on the left and Antony on the right is what Ten Hag prefers. Williams, Jones, Greenwood and Donny is all wasted wages with 0 playing time. Says a lot of our problems the past years that half of our top earners should be sold/on half the wages that they are.

Some of those numbers seem off. In what universe would we pay Brandon Williams more than McTominay? Or Dalot a fraction of Bissaka or Malacia. Martinez on par with Lindeloff. Elanga on peanuts, err.

 

[Todd]

Thats criminal? Brandon Williams is paid more than McTom, a full Scottish international versus the current temporary U-21 captain.

That's bad too, but McTominay isn't nailed on as a starter when he's fit like Dalot basically is.

 

[Gavinb33]

It was always going to end this way ultimately. Unfortunately, his tenure will always be remembered for what he couldn’t achieve than what he did. 5th place finish for Leicester is no joke and would be considered a bigger achievement had it not be a bottle job for the 4th position two seasons in a row. Again, he remains one of the few to win a trophy outside of the big clubs. Should’ve gone sooner but overall his tenure was a successful one.

You don't buy a player for 80+ million and then not pay them like they didn't cost 80+ million

 

[zaafi]

Can someone please explain why Sancho is on £350.000? There were no other clubs close to signing him and he really wanted to join us.

 

[bosnian_red]

Some of those numbers seem off. In what universe would we pay Brandon Williams more than McTominay? Or Dalot a fraction of Bissaka or Malacia. Martinez on par with Lindeloff. Elanga on peanuts, err.

Dalot/Elanga never signed new contracts. Dalots contract when he signed from Porto is still what he's on isn't it? Think he's about to expire. Williams vs McTominay feel off for sure. Martinez is fine, Lindelof was always on pretty big wages.

 

[horsechoker]

Can someone please explain why Sancho is on £350.000? There were no other clubs close to signing him and he really wanted to join us.