If I remember correctly from the autobiography, Sir Alex bought a couple of players over from Aberdeen when he was appointed (Jim Leighton, the man who could not be trusted an inch, the assistant manager).
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
If I remember correctly from the autobiography, Sir Alex bought a couple of players over from Aberdeen when he was appointed (Jim Leighton, the man who could not be trusted an inch, the assistant manager).
Personally I lay the blame on Woodward.
Hopefully, it will take a while to identify the culprit and sack him.
It's far too soon to say. All that matters come the end of this season is that United are top of the Premier League with as many trophies as possible. Fellaini could be an extremely useful purchase, and as pointed out time and time again on here; he is the type of player that we needed. It's a practical bit of business, and if Fellaini performs to the best of his ability and the players around him follow suit I reckon this Summer will have been a complete success.
Spent feck all and reaped the rewards.
Sit back, relax and enjoy the first half of the season and reserve your judgement for in and around Christmas time.
On another note, can Fellaini play bass guitar? He's a dead ringer for Phil Lynott
It cannot just be Woodward, Moyes had a say in things surely.
He has a six year contract, he is not going anywhere soon. We're not going to sack Moyes anytime soon, as long as he qualifies for the Champions League which he will with ease with the squad at his disposal. I will laugh extremely hard when he wins his first titles and you are left with nothing again, still hoping that 'Gollum' will fail big time at Manchester United.
But dude...season in, season out we have seen this type of reaction on the RedCafe. I appreciate yes, the Summer has been quiet and how we dealt with our business in this Summer's window warrants some level of scrutiny, but our players aren't going to be any less eager. If anything it will spur them on. They are professionals, and you just cannot predict the form that certain players might show this season. We might get two younger players who suddenly go up two gears performance wise.
It always goes back to the fact that the Manchester United staff are working with our team weekly and can call shots a whole lot better than we can. Just don't underestimate us
Without Ferguson, we have no managerial advantage. Man for man, I am not convinced we have the best squad. Therefore, I now agree with the bookies assertions of 3rd favourites for us.
Moyes was taken on by the club, under SAF's recommendation in the belief that he was the right man for the job. I would take insider's opinions way before I would take the opinions of fans who are calling for heads after a quiet transfer window and a loss to Liverpool.
You'd swear that Ferguson was a one man army whilst at United. Nobody is questioning his brilliance, but come on....there is a huge input from our training team that keep our style of play Manchester United. It's what makes us unique and it's what has helped / caused us to dominate the Premier League.
So because Lord Fergie chose Moyes instead of say, Mourinho, means that he is a better manager than Mourinho? That probably had more to do with this whole 'United way' stuff I've heard all summer.
And I'm calling for nobody's head, I'm just saying that with the squad we have, I believe 3rd favourites is a fair assessment. With Fergie, I'd expect a bit more, but I genuinely believe our football players are not as good as many make out. We have a couple of real top class ones, a couple of very promising ones that are ready to make a difference thia season, and a few who are past their best or have flattered to deceive. I think we make much mitigation for many, all this 'on their day' kind of stuff - but overall, I don't think they are all that.
As I said before, in my opinion, 4 of the front 6 that started against Liverpool at Anfield, a game in which you would put your best foot forward, would not be playing Champions League football if they were not at United. And then there is no Fergie.
Due to the smirk smiley rarely being used I'm struggling to understand the response message you're trying to give off
Of course he does, Dave shouldn't be getting off scot free here. But the majority of the blame goes to Eddy for being a bit rubbish at this transfer lark.
I'd say if Moyes uses the squad well and gets his big game team selections spot on (which he hasn't against Liverpool to be fair), we're favourites. Not convinced by Chelsea and City so far, and despite adding Ozil Arsenal don't worry me in the slightest. Key is keeping Kagawa, Rooney, RVP, Carrick and Vidic fit, and we'll be there again at the end of the season. Patience is required ATM.
Several members of the technical left also this summer, it can also give a perspective as to why fans are impatient with Moyes and his boys. Arguably all the club's most important positions have new people.
In bold I have highlight what is speculative.
My point all along is that because it is so early in the season a lot of people are jumping the gun. Chill the feck out and see how it pans out mate. We don't know who would have been more suited to the job. We don't know whether a couple of young players or 5 young players will burst through. Who knows....maybe none of them will.
And how do you know that 4 of the front 6 that started against Liverpool would not be playing Champions League football if there weren't at United? How can you say that when you simply don't know?
You are being speculative, and as said above, I would trust those involved at Manchester United before I would trust the speculation of a football fine, despite being entitled to your opinion.
You don't become a coach at Manchester United unless you have a certain level of expertise. I accept we have lost coaching staff, but it's like any company; staff come and staff go and it is down to the structure and strength of a club to make sure that the replacement staff are of a certain caliber.
I am happy to accept that change in management has a history of having a declining effect on certain clubs. Liverpool would be a very good example of this, but I am also willing to argue that Manchester United have a knack of overcoming change. We have seen this down through the years, and whilst this year it's sans Fergie, I don't think we are facing the disaster that many are expecting / hoping for.
I see you did not bold the bit before when I said 'in my opinion'. My view is that Cleverley, Welbeck, Giggs or Young would not be playing CL football if they were not here. RVP would walk into a top team, and Carrick would probably be signed by a CL team, although not one with any real ambitions of winning it.
With regards to the Mourinho bit, all I am saying is that I don't think it's necessarily enough to imply 'nothing has changed with our managerial standard, seeing as it was the great Fergie himself who chose Moyes'. So does this mean that because he didn't recommend Jose, we still have the best manager? Despite all Jose has won?
And regarding the above, I am trying to find one of those stat sites to give an accurate response. Obviously Meulensteen, Steele and Phelan are no longer there, but Phil Neville and Giggs have been moved into training roles. I realize it could be argued that they are unproven, but again...this is the whole speculative thing that remains to be seen.
But in relation to keeping things the Manchester United way, you're not going to do much better than having the likes of Neville and Giggs involved. And then there is McClair at the youth academy
...and I see you missed the fact I included right at the end of my post that you are "entitled to your own opinion." Keep up slow boy
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We'll see Peter. Lets see how the season pans out; but certainly from my years on the Caf, you have a nasty habit of ending up with egg on your face don't you?
Your defence and strike force are still Everton level. Not much to brag about.
Its very normal for a new manager to bring his own staff. Quit talking like what Moyes did was something out of the ordinary.
Not saying it wasn't normal. But it hardly backs up arguments about institutional continuity that he did so.
It was very much a Manchester United result and performance, unfortunately. Liverpool regularly hand us our arse at Anfield.
As was said, that was sadly a very United-like Anfield performance. What was very Everton-like was the manager taking a load of positives from the game and thinking we did well.
I dunno man, I take your point, but sometimes games just don't go your way. Every team has those games. There were a few great saves and goal mouth scrambles that could have crossed the line on another day. And one goal makes a huge amount of difference to the sway of a game. I felt that despite the result we played better football than we did against Chelsea.
As I've said previously, come Christmas if things are in the shite and we're in 8th position I will be the first on here asking questions, but I think we should all give it a while.
On that we don't agree. For I can't see how any CEO worth his salt would allow letting a buy out clause for a player expire and then paying above that fee for that same player. Going on just a manager's input. I can't say your view is wrong though.