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Rozay

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Thought I'd centralise this issue, seeing as it has been discussed in bits and pieces in many other threads.

It appears likely that David Moyes will be our next manager, so which Everton players, if any, do you think could add to our squad at present?

Personally, I see Barkley as an option, and I think Mirallas may have it in him to be a threat off our left-side.
 
Apart from Barkley being a good prospect, none of them.
 
Barkley, Baines, Fellaini and Mirallas are the players I'd have in our squad. Rest aren't good enough.
 
Why would we be signing Everton players?

We do have a scouting network in place. We don't just sign players the gaffer has managed before.
 
The players that they have that might be good enough for us

Baines - Excellent player but we have Evra, Fabio and Buttner and he's 29 so wouldn't want him

Fellaini - Don't like him

Barkley - Would take him but might be expensive
 
I have seen four players from Everton being mentioned on the forum since yesterday. Fellaini, Baines, Hibbert and Barkley.

Can see Baines coming here, don't want us to sign Fellaini.
 
I could see Baines coming here, which would mean the end for Evra.

Don't necessarily think he's better than Evra, but managers like to bring in their own players so they have someone they are comfortable with and can trust.
 
Barkley could be a good prospect. Fellaini would encourage hoof ball imo.
 
None of them will come if Moyes signs, and I'm sure Moyes would refrain from being that narrow-minded whilst trying to make an impression at such a big club.
 
akash02 said:
The players that they have that might be good enough for us

Baines - Excellent player but we have Evra, Fabio and Buttner and he's 29 so wouldn't want him

Fellaini - Don't like him

Barkley - Would take him but might be expensive
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Fabio?
 
steeeb said:
Why would we be signing Everton players?

We do have a scouting network in place. We don't just sign players the gaffer has managed before.
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I am suprised that this has to be clarified, but seeing as it does, here it goes;

Obviously we will not limit our shopping exclusively to Everton players. That said, it is not unreasonable to consider a manager wanting to work with some players he has worked with before, or perhaps knows better than onyone else and feels has the potential to step up for United.

As for the whole snobbery of 'why would we sign a player from Everton?', may I remind people of the man in the headlines this morning we picked up from there.
 
What are people's views on Mirallas? Our left side has been a bit of a weakness, and he is young and very talented. Could certainly play for a better club I reckon, not sure if that is United though. But then again, we have players of his level/calibre getting regular games for us as it is, so this whole 'United level' thing is subjective.
 
Rozay said:
What are people's views on Mirallas? Our left side has been a bit of a weakness, and he is young and very talented. Could certainly play for a better club I reckon, not sure if that is United though. But then again, we have players of his level/calibre getting regular games for us as it is, so this whole 'United level' thing is subjective.
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I think he's a top player, but he seem to have a few injury problems, right? Though when fit he has proved he's one of the better wingers.
 
francobaresi said:
Fabio?
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Rafael's identical twin brother, played in a champions league final as I recall. Ring a bell?

Rozay said:
What are people's views on Mirallas? Our left side has been a bit of a weakness, and he is young and very talented. Could certainly play for a better club I reckon, not sure if that is United though. But then again, we have players of his level/calibre getting regular games for us as it is, so this whole 'United level' thing is subjective.
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Inconsistent, injury prone and not good enough
 
Rozay said:
I am suprised that this has to be clarified, but seeing as it does, here it goes;

Obviously we will not limit our shopping exclusively to Everton players. That said, it is not unreasonable to consider a manager wanting to work with some players he has worked with before, or perhaps knows better than onyone else and feels has the potential to step up for United.

As for the whole snobbery of 'why would we sign a player from Everton?', may I remind people of the man in the headlines this morning we picked up from there.
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I'm not saying Everton are shit, or I couldn't see any of their players in our squad - I just don't think it'll happen.

I don't think we are any more likely to sign a player from Everton if we had Moyes as our manager - even though that might sound counter-intuative but it opens a whole new world for Moyes - I'm not saying he won't sign players he has looked at for everton but were out of reach for them and may be possible now. I just can't see us getting any Everton players.
 
How often do managers actually go back for their old players? Almost never I'd say.
 
It is utterly absurd that people do not want the best left back in the league, who happens to be English BTW, because he is in the absolute prime of his career. Just retarded.
 
Sixpence said:
How often do managers actually go back for their old players? Almost never I'd say.
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Very often. SAF has done it himself.

Off the top of my head - Ancelotti, Rodgers, Redknapp, Mourinho, Benitez have all done so at big/biggish clubs.
 
Jacob said:
None of them will come if Moyes signs, and I'm sure Moyes would refrain from being that narrow-minded whilst trying to make an impression at such a big club.
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For sure. He'l know the kind of expectations and eyes there are on him. Going to his former club to buy players is something he'l steer clear of imo.
 
francobaresi said:
Plays for QPR, no?
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On loan, surely you knew that?

Jimy_Hills_Chin said:
It is utterly absurd that people do not want the best left back in the league, who happens to be English BTW, because he is in the absolute prime of his career. Just retarded.
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Not retarded at all. Baines is very good and is the best LB in the league but he's not all that better than Evra (Who's been very good this season). And he won't come cheap either
 
akash02 said:
On loan, surely you knew that?



Not retarded at all. Baines is very good and is the best LB in the league but he's not all that better than Evra (Who's been very good this season). And he won't come cheap either
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Nope, I didn't know that. Apologies
 
akash02 said:
On loan, surely you knew that?



Not retarded at all. Baines is very good and is the best LB in the league but he's not all that better than Evra (Who's been very good this season). And he won't come cheap either
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Evra was strangely good forward this year but the defensive brain farts that have crept into his game are still there. At this point Baines offers more than Evra going forward and in defence. He would be a significant upgrade to the squad. Remember that Evra has one year left on his contract and has wanted to leave before. I would welcome Baines to the team.
 
Barkley has looked bright on the occasions I've seen him but he wouldn't be cheap. I like that he has a little experience in the lower leagues, even if Neil Warncock didn't use him. Moyes gave him a couple of starts recently too, once at the Emirates. He's a big lad too
 
Jimy_Hills_Chin said:
Evra was strangely good forward this year but the defensive brain farts that have crept into his game are still there. At this point Baines offers more than Evra going forward and in defence. He would be a significant upgrade to the squad. Remember that Evra has one year left on his contract and has wanted to leave before. I would welcome Baines to the team.
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Evra is slightly better than Baines ofensively and Baines is slightly better than Evra defensively. The difference between them is nowhere near big enough to justify spending a load of money on Baines.
 
I think the only real 2 are Baines and Fellaini but I don't want either. We don't need a left back, let alone a 29 year old who will cost in the region of 17-20m and Fellaini while he's a decent player there's probably better options within his price range.
 
steeeb said:
Why would we be signing Everton players?

We do have a scouting network in place. We don't just sign players the gaffer has managed before.
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Baines is arguably the best left back in the league - and we've been linked before.

Fellaini is a handful and I can see Moyes wanting to bring himn in because he's unlike anything we have.

Barkley seems a good prospect. I'd take any of them.
 
akash02 said:
Evra is slightly better than Baines ofensively and Baines is slightly better than Evra defensively. The difference between them is nowhere near big enough to justify spending a load of money on Baines.
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Havent watched much of Everton this season but unless he's improved a lot, he isnt someone I'd classify as better than the Evra we saw this season defensively either.
 
akash02 said:
Evra is slightly better than Baines ofensively and Baines is slightly better than Evra defensively. The difference between them is nowhere near big enough to justify spending a load of money on Baines.
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I'm not having that. I recall Baines having created more chances than any player in the league this season according to the statisticians not that long ago? Also takes a mean free-kick.

I see this one happening. Not too long left on his contract and has one big move ahead of him.
 
akash02 said:
Evra is slightly better than Baines ofensively and Baines is slightly better than Evra defensively. The difference between them is nowhere near big enough to justify spending a load of money on Baines.
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I don't think that Evra is better than Baines going forward, and Evra had a freak season for him this year in that regard. I would not expect him to repeat it. Evra has one year left on his contract too, now might be the time to take a fee for him, considering his age and his patchy form over the past few years.

Baines is three years younger, three years is a long time in football. I would concede that it does depend on how much Baines will be available for though.
 
Jimy_Hills_Chin said:
It is utterly absurd that people do not want the best left back in the league, who happens to be English BTW, because he is in the absolute prime of his career. Just retarded.
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How exactly is it retarted? :wenger: Has he been better that Evra this season? No!

He has the exact same weaknesses as Evra defensively. Ive seen Lennon rip him a new one as well as SWP on a number of occasions . Hes 29 before xmas. He wont age well either imo (unlike Evra). Lots of big reasons to not want.

Obviously he'd provide a different attacking dimension for us but its not like we are struggling to score goals or anything. Our set pieces have been fine this season as well.

I think we would be far better off waiting another season and see where Fabio is at. Id also keep a close eye on the Shaw off Southampton.
 
Barkley was excellent on loan at Wednesday. Best player on the pitch pretty much at all times, by quite some distance. He's a fair stocky lad n'all, so he could look after himself against those Championship bruisers. The kid looks class. I never really saw the hype in Rodwell, but I can certainly see alot of promise in Barkley.


I also disagree about Baines being an upgrade on Evra. Baines is a decent free kick taker, but other than that, I believe Evra is better both going forwards and on an equal par defensively. He looks stronger and also better in the air. His experience is also invaluable. He's captained United more than anyone else over the last 2 or 3 years. His winning mentality and his drive, as well as his motivation in the dressing room has been lauded by alot of our players, and is probably the reason why he's vice captain, though in reality he is essentially our primary captain. He's got experience of playing in huge games, Champions League finals and such He seems to genuinely love the club, and is very vocal about his love for the club. I think he's hugely important to our team. Even at 32, he doesn't look like slowing down.
 
The creating chances stat is a load of bollocks. Baines despite taking pretty much all of Everton's set pieces and penalties only has one more goal than Evra. Evra in terms of productivity has had a freak season but he has always been a big threat down the left with his link up play and bursts forward.

We should not even consider selling Evra imo.
 
Just looked up their stats

Baines

Goals:5
Assists:5
Pass Success Ratio:82
Aerial Duels Won Per game:0.3
Tackles per game - 2.4
Interceptions per game - 1.4
19 players have dribbled past him

Evra

Goals:4
Assists:5
Pass Success Ratio:87
Aerial Duels Won Per game:2.1
Tackles per game - 2.1
Interceptions per game - 1.5
21 players have dribbled past him

And keep in mind Baines takes nearly all Everton's set pieces
 
Is it a "freak season" though, rather than a realisation that Evra is a huge threat from set pieces as he is a little guy who nips between markers, but also has an outrageous leap? Before this season, Evra would pretty much always remain back in defence or outside the box during set pieces. As a result of being more advanced for corners and free kicks, he's got more goals.

Playing a player in a more attacking position more often which results in more goals doesn't sound very freakish. It sounds downright logical.
 
Evra is miles better at carrying the ball forward, playing quick 1-2's and keeping the ball under pressure, which is what we all fawn over on the continent isn't it? He's a huge part pf our attack. Baines has remarkably good delivery.
 
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