Evan Ferguson - Top Irish Prospect

So far adding Zirkzee to the squad hasn't really worked out.

Adding another prospect in Ferguson feels like a repeat, which doesn't mean it wouldn't work, but I feel it would be safer to add a experience player to be used more as a sub and mentor to Hojlund.
 
I don't think he's favoured at Brighton. If Brighton don't think he's good enough, then why would United think he's good enough?
 
How's his first touch? Can he win headers and bully Defenders? Bring others into play?

I consider these traits to be vital for any striker regardless of scoring record. Hence my not rating of Lukaku and criticism of Hojland.

I guess I'm just used to Rooney, RVP, Ruud.
These are his strengths. He's good in the air, is technically strong and definitely has the ability to link well with others. Played a fantastic through ball for Sammy Smodzics only for the goal to be ruled offside. Bullied Saliba off the ball for one of his first goals last year against Arsenal.

I think he's quite a high IQ player and so expect him to blossom later in his career when he figures out how to cope with his reduced mobility from the injuries he's suffered. He's not even slow when he hits full pace but he's quite slow off the mark.

Would be flabbergasted if this guy ends up in League 1 as one commenter said that half of Ireland is apparently thinking - he's our biggest prospect in decades so wouldn't agree that that's a common opinion at all. Was as certain a prospect for the top as you could have before his recent injuries. Now its on to Mason Melia as the next great Irish hope.
 
These are his strengths. He's good in the air, is technically strong and definitely has the ability to link well with others. Played a fantastic through ball for Sammy Smodzics only for the goal to be ruled offside. Bullied Saliba off the ball for one of his first goals last year against Arsenal.

I think he's quite a high IQ player and so expect him to blossom later in his career when he figures out how to cope with his reduced mobility from the injuries he's suffered. He's not even slow when he hits full pace but he's quite slow off the mark.

Would be flabbergasted if this guy ends up in League 1 as one commenter said that half of Ireland is apparently thinking - he's our biggest prospect in decades so wouldn't agree that that's a common opinion at all. Was as certain a prospect for the top as you could have before his recent injuries. Now its on to Mason Melia as the next great Irish hope.

I see him as a bit of an all-rounder, without being exceptional at any one thing.

He's big and physical, but agile and technical. Quick enough but definitely not pacey.

Good finisher off either foot, good in the air. Good dribbler, good at link up play.

He's also quite handsome and charismatic. He's quite funny in interviews. Also seems laid-back but very disciplined and determined to succeed.

Ideally he'd go on loan to the Championship.

I actually think he'd be perfect for Wrexham although L1 is below his level.
 
Linked with Bayer Leverkusen with Boniface off to Saudi Arabia, would be a real sink or swim move if it comes off.
 
I see him as a bit of an all-rounder, without being exceptional at any one thing.

He's big and physical, but agile and technical. Quick enough but definitely not pacey.

Good finisher off either foot, good in the air. Good dribbler, good at link up play.

He's also quite handsome and charismatic. He's quite funny in interviews. Also seems laid-back but very disciplined and determined to succeed.

Ideally he'd go on loan to the Championship.

I actually think he'd be perfect for Wrexham although L1 is below his level.
He's not really technical.
 
Rumoured price of around £40m from a quick Google. Would he be worth a gamble at that, assuming we manage to find it down the back of the couch?

On the evidence if his breakout form I'd say absolutely, but I believe he's had some recurring ankle injuries since.

Tricky one.
 
Rumoured price of around £40m from a quick Google. Would he be worth a gamble at that, assuming we manage to find it down the back of the couch?

On the evidence if his breakout form I'd say absolutely, but I believe he's had some recurring ankle injuries since.

Tricky one.
however talented, unproven and injury prone youngster that still needs to develop his game big time is the last thing we should spend 40m on.
 
Rumoured price of around £40m from a quick Google. Would he be worth a gamble at that, assuming we manage to find it down the back of the couch?

On the evidence if his breakout form I'd say absolutely, but I believe he's had some recurring ankle injuries since.

Tricky one.
We're not the club for him and he's not the player for us - right now. He needs to go somewhere where the pressure is off, get drip-fed into games with little fanfare and get back to scoring goals. I feel like the Old Trafford gold-fish bowl would be just be a horrific move for him at this point in his career.
 
Ankle injuries affect your mobility a lot and COD/agility.

Not to say he can't return to his previous heights or fulfil his potential but like the above poster said, he's not the player for us right now. We can't gamble on a young, unproven striker who's struggling with injuries that could have impacted his development especially for the expense of £30m+.
 
Rumoured price of around £40m from a quick Google. Would he be worth a gamble at that, assuming we manage to find it down the back of the couch?

On the evidence if his breakout form I'd say absolutely, but I believe he's had some recurring ankle injuries since.

Tricky one.
No way, we need an established striker now. We've spent £100 million on a pair of pups and look how that is going.

The next striker has to be 25/26/27 and have a history of consistent goalscoring.
 
Isn't he basically an injury prone young Harry Kane? I think I'd pass given where we are with building the squad.
 
These are his strengths. He's good in the air, is technically strong and definitely has the ability to link well with others. Played a fantastic through ball for Sammy Smodzics only for the goal to be ruled offside. Bullied Saliba off the ball for one of his first goals last year against Arsenal.

I think he's quite a high IQ player and so expect him to blossom later in his career when he figures out how to cope with his reduced mobility from the injuries he's suffered. He's not even slow when he hits full pace but he's quite slow off the mark.

Would be flabbergasted if this guy ends up in League 1 as one commenter said that half of Ireland is apparently thinking - he's our biggest prospect in decades so wouldn't agree that that's a common opinion at all. Was as certain a prospect for the top as you could have before his recent injuries. Now its on to Mason Melia as the next great Irish hope.

Injuries ruin the best of players and nearly always do for young prospects. He'll be in the Championship/League 1 sooner or later unless a miracle happens unfortunately (and even a minor miracle would be hanging around in lower PL barely starting or scoring).
 
Good signing for Nottingham Forest I reckon, nice backup for Chris Wood with good potential to improve over time
 
I think we should loan him. We desperately need another option and a no obligation loan, on his wages, shouldn't make or break us come summer
 
Fairly sure he'll end up at West Ham as they need that type upfront with all their injuries.
 
Injuries ruin the best of players and nearly always do for young prospects. He'll be in the Championship/League 1 sooner or later unless a miracle happens unfortunately (and even a minor miracle would be hanging around in lower PL barely starting or scoring).
The rubbish people spout so confidently.
 
The rubbish people spout so confidently.

The chances of him cracking on and being brilliant after several injuries as a young prospect are a lot less than him having a middling PL career at best.

No idea why you’re so confident otherwise.
 
Leverkusen might be a good move him would take out of the PL spotlight. Spurs would be a horrendous one. Pressure on him from the get go. Will probably end up at West Ham because of Potter though
 
Leverkusen might be a good move him would take out of the PL spotlight. Spurs would be a horrendous one. Pressure on him from the get go. Will probably end up at West Ham because of Potter though
I think Leverkusen or Marseille are more likely and I pray it's a loan not a sale.
 
The chances of him cracking on and being brilliant after several injuries as a young prospect are a lot less than him having a middling PL career at best.

No idea why you’re so confident otherwise.
Every player gets injuries the worst and the best so you saying that "Injuries ruin the best of players and nearly always do for young prospects" is just waffle. Of course there's a chance this injury can't be overcome but you just confidently claiming he'll be in the Championship/League 1 as if its a fact is proper nonsense. People on here don't rate him that highly anymore but he's a properly gifted player but is just gifted at the sort of unsexy stuff that improves with age like box movement, heading, composure, footballing IQ. He's having a nightmare season but if he chooses his next move wisely and his injury isn't an actual career ender, then I'm confident he can play his prime years at PL level.
 
I think Leverkusen or Marseille are more likely and I pray it's a loan not a sale.
How do the Brighton faithful feel about him these days @The Boy ? Have the injuries ruined your early anticipation and excitement? From an Irish perspective, I'm feeling each new setback like a hammer blow to the star he might have been. Feel so sick for him, so long without a proper run.
 
How do the Brighton faithful feel about him these days @The Boy ? Have the injuries ruined your early anticipation and excitement? From an Irish perspective, I'm feeling each new setback like a hammer blow to the star he might have been. Feel so sick for him, so long without a proper run.
I still have high hopes for him, but he needs a decent run to get his confidence back. With us hoping for Europe that means right now Pedro and Welbeck will be selected above him on current form. I think he has so much potential still and development is never linear, he's hit a big bump, but a good run in a team doing well like Marseille or Leverkusen could do him the world of good and he can come back to us firing on all cylinders again. I'll be absolutely gutted if we sell him.
 
Every player gets injuries the worst and the best so you saying that "Injuries ruin the best of players and nearly always do for young prospects" is just waffle. Of course there's a chance this injury can't be overcome but you just confidently claiming he'll be in the Championship/League 1 as if its a fact is proper nonsense. People on here don't rate him that highly anymore but he's a properly gifted player but is just gifted at the sort of unsexy stuff that improves with age like box movement, heading, composure, footballing IQ. He's having a nightmare season but if he chooses his next move wisely and his injury isn't an actual career ender, then I'm confident he can play his prime years at PL level.

I’m not stating anything as a fact.

But it is backed up by history showing many bright young starlets get chopped down by injuries and not as many overcoming those injuries and being the same player they were before.

Wayne Rooney stands out as a shining example of a young talent getting injured, still having an amazing career and yet having a huge ‘what if’ sentiment hanging over him as he could’ve been potentially even better, so is Ferguson a Rooney level talent or is he lesser? (Which wouldn’t be a knock would it?)

I said it ruins the best of players to suggest that even if Ferguson was absolutely one of the best, he could still be ruined by injuries. Even if he wasn’t, young talents more often fail to live up to the hype than they do maximising their potential.

It’s just more likely that he won’t go on to be as brilliant as you might think, which will be a massive shame, but it happens, regularly. Of he gets over his issues and smashes his career then brilliant, it’s just not as likely to happen.

And no, no facts, but if you want examples there are many more, perhaps you can point to the ones that do make it big after setbacks early on?
 
I think
The chances of him cracking on and being brilliant after several injuries as a young prospect are a lot less than him having a middling PL career at best.

No idea why you’re so confident otherwise.
another situation of a player getting massively overrated and an excused used why they were wrong.