To be fair, the vast majority of Brits/Irish definitely don’t care about it, in fact many see the passion in these moments as a positive. It’s a throwback to the prim and proper BBC speak days where if you’re being broadcast one must be speaking “the queen’s English” when like I say, the reality is your layperson doesn’t have any issueDespite all that though - it will never stop being hilarious to me how much consternation this word causes among anglos. Just the expression 'f bomb' already cracks me up. I can just picture people covering up their kids' ears!
Not just Brits; it's the same in the US and English Canada. French Canadians aren't bothered by cursing though (in French or English), so I guess it's really an anglophone thing.
ETH dropped the F-Bomb live on Sky Sports - ''f*cking good play football''
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He's even worse than pep, pep looks like a confused puppy most if the time while with ten hag you genuinely feel he might shank you at any moment .
Definitely unsettling but at least he's ours
The Cyrus Grissom of the Premier League.
clean your room. and have you even given your dad a proper kiss today?
The outrage anytime someone curses on television really is nauseating. They're just words, and I'm sure there's a massive overlap in people who make a fuss over this and people who curse in front their children anyway
Makes him all the more endearing
"Hey! You! Listen to the lady with the saxophone!"Makes him all the more endearing
I love the Dutch. They're quite a wacky people.
Yeah, true. I wonder when they'll finally stop apologizing for it the way they do - and when it will stop being a political and media drama (fake and short-lived; no-one actually thinks it'll have consequences) if some politician says it. (example from April)
It did sound beautifully awkward!Makes him all the more endearing
Would be cool if there would actually be a 'fecking good football' banner at the next game though! (Or would that be removed?)
In the Netherlands it's completely fine to say those words, or worse, on TV. Of course it also depends on the setting. But nothing is censored here. Dutch people are used to saying the word feck, it's basically part of Dutch vocabulary.
I don't think kanker or tering are similar. Especially kanker is way more harsh. If anything a Dutch person would use the same word, we speelden fecking goed. That said, you're normally more likely to hear that from a Dutch player than a manager.
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Yeah, true. I wonder when they'll finally stop apologizing for it the way they do - and when it will stop being a political and media drama (fake and short-lived; no-one actually thinks it'll have consequences) if some politician says it. (example from April)
It did sound beautifully awkward!
Would be cool if there would actually be a 'fecking good football' banner at the next game though! (Or would that be removed?)
If you used the fecking redcafe filter for fecking, you might get away with it.
What he said didnt even make sense.
It felt like a subdued version of Captain Holt in Brooklyn Nine Nine and his "VINDICATION!" moment.
Passion, love it.
Passion, love it.
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Let's be honest, how many times have you all watched this clip again today?
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That’s great. Still can’t believe Rooney got a two match ban when he said feck.
It's not that serious. The past 18 hours or so have been the least miserable this place has been in a while, let people shitpost.
For native speakers, 'fecking' is actually pretty strong though. The way it's used in the Netherlands, it means almost nothing, but that's not representative of its use in English.
And yes, I know lots of native speakers use it very freely in English, but so do people with various Dutch curses in the Netherlands. Doesn't mean it's what you're supposed to say in 'polite conversation' (which a tv interview is).
It's not bad as it was just making his point more clear, like "really good". This is and should be clear to everyone hearing that.
On a sidenote: a phrase became legendary in Austria after an expert talk. This was during the under-16 EC in Austria, where Schneckerl casually said something like "here are some whorekids around"
On a sidenote: a phrase became legendary in Austria after an expert talk. This was during the under-16 EC in Austria, where Schneckerl casually said something like "here are some whorekids around"
It's odd - i was watching this and never heard it. wouldn't have known if the presenter hadn't clearly be ordered (presumably by the director) to apologise
He's going to be a cult hero at the very least. His broken phrases make them all the more memorable and instantly identifiable attaches to him and him alone. If not meme-worthy then actually banner stuff (should he bring success); it'll also be very easy to monetize for any shrewd opportunists.Yeah, true. I wonder when they'll finally stop apologizing for it the way they do - and when it will stop being a political and media drama (fake and short-lived; no-one actually thinks it'll have consequences) if some politician says it. (example from April)
It did sound beautifully awkward!
Would be cool if there would actually be a 'fecking good football' banner at the next game though! (Or would that be removed?)
I think the Dutch character and turn of phrase really melds with English culture - it's not often we don't find you guys hilarious for your forthrightness and unapologetic manner especially so when contrasted with how one is 'supposed' to behave as the figurehead over here.
I've mingled with a lot of Austrians, Germans and a fair amount of Dutch and all are hilarious to me for the way points of view are put across, but you guys have a certain extra that really tickles. I say this in a good way, by the way.
By the way, if you want examples of this stuff, there have been so many gems broadcast from a tiny sample size of Dutch mangers on British TV. I know Cruyff is Cruyff, but his entire time interacting with the British TV crew during a tournament (can't remember if it was the Euros or World Cup) was absolute, unintentional comedy gold, particularly him putting Hansen in place in as few words as humanly possible time and time again. That bluntness without deliberation is just brilliant - it's not just Cruyffian (it's clear ten Hag has it spades), although he perhaps gave the most succint and demonstrably clear framing of it.
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It's used in dramas all the time so seems like double standards. Maybe live broadcasts need to just put out the same warning at the start
I was going through Caf's match day, (was to nervous to do it during last 10 mins of the match, so went vacuum cleaning), while listening him on tv, one moment I looked up: did he jusy say..? No reaction from others for a second or two, looked down on my phone thinking, meh, I heard it wrong, David starts talking, then stops, then apologizes, oh I heard good, started to laugh at the same time Gary did.
Do you have any examples? I couldn't find anything on YouTube.
Anyway, it's an interesting cultural difference. I am relatively reserved for a Dutchman, but still, at work here in Canada, I do notice that I express myself more directly/candidly than others - also to more senior people. Can't avoid it entirely!
Ten Hag will likely improve his English quickly though - but I don't suppose he'll lose the directness. :-)
I had to check myself as I thought the net would be flooded with clips. It was Euro 2000 and apparently there is no footage of the punditry on YouTube!Do you have any examples? I couldn't find anything on YouTube.
Anyway, it's an interesting cultural difference. I am relatively reserved for a Dutchman, but still, at work here in Canada, I do notice that I express myself more directly/candidly than others - also to more senior people. Can't avoid it entirely!
Ten Hag will likely improve his English quickly though - but I don't suppose he'll lose the directness. :-)
I found this: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2000/jun/19/euro2000.sport9
not that it says much, but better than no documented proof at all!
Perhaps someone reading this can source the footage.
You can if you say it weird like squish the first to bits to one word, Erikten Hag! Feck yeah!
Whats funny is its being debated on this site that doesnt allow it to be printed.
I suppose there are some prim and proper people out there, probably the older viewer, who would complain if the broadcasters dont apologise.
On an aside, why is bugger acceptable if f uck isnt? Surely to f uck an arse is the same outrage as f uck a pussy, if you object to the latter you should to the former as well, but no one bats an eyelid.
I suppose there are some prim and proper people out there, probably the older viewer, who would complain if the broadcasters dont apologise.
On an aside, why is bugger acceptable if f uck isnt? Surely to f uck an arse is the same outrage as f uck a pussy, if you object to the latter you should to the former as well, but no one bats an eyelid.
He was psyched up and lost his composure. For me it’s understandable and since it‘s the first time it should not be made a big deal of.
He could use some media training and his English will get better.
He can swear all he wants at the players, they need it right now.
It‘s clear he is a crazy fanatic fecker, the best people in a given profession often are.
And, he is our crazy fecker
He could use some media training and his English will get better.
He can swear all he wants at the players, they need it right now.
It‘s clear he is a crazy fanatic fecker, the best people in a given profession often are.
And, he is our crazy fecker
Friendship ended with “Dreams can’t be buy”. Now “Fecking good play football” is my best friend.
Actually, thinking of this again, I suppose he had 'ze kunnen verdomd goed voetballen' in mind, and then translated that literally to 'they can fecking good play football'. If so, 'damn' would have been the better translation and wouldn't have raised any eyebrows. (And 'verdomd' obviously not in the Netherlands either.)
Are you fecking Dutch? Verdomd goed voetballen is exactly right.
Born and raised.
Oh, and I apologize to our readers for the language used in the above post.
Sell him hire Moyes
Definitely gives the impression of knowing exactly what he wants. I like him already.He was psyched up and lost his composure. For me it’s understandable and since it‘s the first time it should not be made a big deal of.
He could use some media training and his English will get better.
He can swear all he wants at the players, they need it right now.
It‘s clear he is a crazy fanatic fecker, the best people in a given profession often are.
And, he is our crazy fecker