While Endrick looks an absolute physical beast at that age, Estevao is more built like young Neymar or Vini Jr.
Estêvão aka "Messinho" | 17 year old Palmeiras winger
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I’m f they don’t end up good enough .. yes, that’s the general idea. If he isn’t making regular starts for us and then he isn’t hitting difficult targets (like player of the year, CL trophy, etc) then his price could be as low as 25. A good chunk of that considered youth investment .
When we have players we believe are the best for that position, we keep them (Colwill).
Santos is playing fantastic: keep.
Some are doing well, but maybe not well enough: Sell if the right offer comes in.
I would love to see Tyrique George take big steps in the next few years, but if he doesn’t look like he will crack the Chelsea lineup, he will definitely draw a solid fee to be a player for a team in the top leagues.
It isn’t super complicated.
Would I like to sign Gyorkes and Nico Williams? Ya, but we aren’t in the CL. We are trying to reset our salary structure, eventually move on the bigger salaries and have everything make more sense. If this squad was settled, 2 to 3 years older, in the CL, Palmer and a few others were on bigger contracts, but the wage bill was under control and made sense, and you were using satellite clubs to feed the academy… then you could use a window to target a specific player to improve the team at 200k per week.
Some of our decisions before having the whole team in place has prevented us from doing that.
Name is “luis Guilherme” not “guilherme”! Luís Guilherme is a flop in palmeiras
Fantastic game today. He looks like a middle ground between Robben and Neymar.
The first couple of games I watched of him, he looked a bit raw and a bit timid, but the more he plays the more he stands out from his peers by an absolute mile. It’s pretty crazy that he’s only 17.
He looks so fecking great! I hope he does it, I like more his style than Vini and Endrick
I just looked up his wiki page and see Chelsea have signed him already! For a potential 65m! How on earth do they do they sign everyone ?? Is there anyone left who is not a Chelsea player? More importantly, why haven't they signed Donny Van De Beek yet?
I'm more of a Ronaldoughnut and David Beckhamburger fan. So Chelsea can have Messinho and they can feck off with their 10 years contract.
Nice to sign young talents but I prefer making them 
Why not both?Nice to sign young talents but I prefer making them
You’re best placed to answer that..
Indeed. It's great doing both. You should try it.
Yikes. I hate to break it…
Tyrique George, his competition on the left side; just signed to a new long term deal. Also among the top 5 under 18 at each position they listed last year, Willian’s competition on the opposite side was Rio Ngumoha… also a Cobham product. There is some question as to whether we will be able to re-sign Rio though..
But yes, we do “make them” and buy them.
“Potential” 65
starting fee is like 25? Then add ons based on performance, starts for first team, etc, etc
Will be great to see them tearing it up in Spain or Germany or wherever in a few years!
For Chelsea in the CL, I assume you mean? Yeah, would be great I agree
touche!His career will die in Chelsea. Very bad choice for a player with raw talent.
I knew you were a Chelsea fan at heart. Good to finally have it out in the open. Welcome aboard my friend
Posts like this are basically what the early pages of Palmer's thread looks like.
I hope he makes it but to be honest, the odds are stacked against this lad.
1) How many prodigies at 17 make it to super high levels?
2) In the Premier League?
3) Being transferred from South America?
Granted not many are signed direct from SA, but there's still a boat load of factors in play including cultural adaptation and staying injury free. He's going to be an exciting talent to watch no doubt.
The odds are stacked against any 17 year old at any club anywhere in the world. Most of those challenges apply to every young talent out there. There’s the added difficulty of Estevao moving to the PL from Brazil at such an early age and Chelsea have said the plan for him is to join the first team in 2025 and not be loaned out, so we will see how he develops.
Why go someplace that routinely sends out talent of a high level to other squads, be the next Olise or Musiala, when you can be the next Victor Roque or Ansu Fati.
Chelsea is so horrible.
This kid is insane. Seems to score a worldie or provide a crazy assist every match.
Why the feck did Chelsea sign him and not us? Because he isn't from the Eredivisie?
You don’t quit do you?
He looks fantastic. Adapting to the PL will probably take some time but his talent just jumps out from the screen.
I saw his agent quoted the other day as saying that he wants to be a 10 long term, which is interesting.
The opposition coach’s reaction was hilarious, like ‘how the feck are we supposed to defend him’.
What’s crazy is that I think Kendry Paez looks even better currently from what I’ve watched. And he is apparently best as a #10, too.
So we’ll have 2 incredible talents joining up this time next year. So 2-3 of our current lot will have to be moved on by then.
The real question is how many of them establish themselves in A first team squad of note. They all get chances, some take more advantage of them. We have led the league in academy player minutes several of the last 5 seasons, and we are always in the top 3.
BUT, more importantly, we put in serious work to find jobs, and good jobs for the players that don’t make the Final Cut here. Chelsea academy players are everywhere, starting on good teams throughout Europe.
We actually put parts of our negotiations with Aaron Anselmino, a big time prospect we want, on hold so we could finalize and give proper announcement to Jamie Cumming …an academy keeper who is never gonna be a world beater… joining Oxford United as a Senior pro.
Would your teams have done that?
Omari was essentially kicked to the curb by Arsenal. Through our work and promotion he is gonna be a starter in the PL next year.
Chelsea does good work
That's a shame. Loads of talent but won't go far if he isn't right in the head.
He was not finished in that match.
I hope we improve our footprint in South America. We rarely sign players from there despite so much of the world’s best talent coming from there. When we do it’s usually the lower level talent like Pellistri or oldies like Cavani. Then there’s a certain Brazilian ETH rated but I’ve decided he doesn’t exist.
Last ones I remember were Anderson, Raphael and Fabio who were highly regarded especially Anderson. Not sure why we are wary to take a risk on South American young talent.
I don't think Anderson counts because he was already at Porto.