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So many things wrong with that list. Its like they just decided on Messi and Ronaldo and then randomly put the rest of the list together with no thought process. Henry above Zidane is the biggest joke I have seen
The whole list is totally biased in favour of trophies.Ramos and, especially, Puyol as the only recognized defenders doesn't sit right. Puyol was an excellent player and won everything but he benefited a lot from the talent around him. Was he a better defender than Cannavaro or Nesta? I don't think so.
Maybe Micah Richards created the listSo many things wrong with that list. Its like they just decided on Messi and Ronaldo and then randomly put the rest of the list together with no thought process. Henry above Zidane is the biggest joke I have seen
A violent racist though who probably should have been excluded from football.Iniesta and Xavi should both be top 5...or at least ahead of Modric and Zidane.
Suárez was the best #9 IMO besides the two Ronaldos. Should be way higher for me. One of the best #9s ever, despite being a twat.
Neymar should be higher too. He underachieved relative to his talent but still had a great career.
Zlatan is a bit too high on this list for my liking.
Zidane is overrated for me, based on him often being in and around the top 5 in these lists. Definitely at least a tier below for me. Top 5 is too much. Several of his peak years were not in the 21st century either. Same with Ronaldo Nazario.
Maybe Micah Richards created the list
Have a perhaps baseless appreciation for Rui Costa too
Obviously because he's partially cannibal. He is the most complete and deadly #9 since R9I would love to know why the hell Henry sits 21 places above Suarez when Henry has nothing on Suarez.
1. Suarez had the higher peak, had greater longevity, has a superior club career, and even has a superior international career once you apply context.
2. Suarez scored more goals than Henry at the World Cup despite playing for a vastly inferior national team.
3. Suarez has scored in a Copa America and Champions League final while Henry’s final records is abysmal.
4. Suarez won the golden boot twice without taking penalties at the height of Messi and CR7.
5. Suarez not only has far more career goals, but also has more career assists and is a statistically better chance creator than Henry.
Suarez >>> Henry in every single aspect
No Robben no party. How the feck is Suarez in over him
Even Mbappe isnt above him yet for me.
Only thing Suarez has over him is not being injured half the time and somehow being an even bigger cheat (which is an impressive feat). Robben carried our national team to a world cup final and semi final and Bayern to a CL final and scored the winner in another. Of course they're completely different players, but both peak level and longevity Robben easily beats him.Suarez was better than Robben.
Suarez was a much more complete player than Robben. Robben was a sort,-of one trick pony, albeit a very good one at it, whereas Suarez scored from every angle and situation. Robben should definitely be up there but Suarez should be somewhere in the top of the list, regardless what you think of him as a personOnly thing Suarez has over him is not being injured half the time and somehow being an even bigger cheat (which is an impressive feat). Robben carried our national team to a world cup final and semi final and Bayern to a CL final and scored the winner in another. Of course they're completely different players, but both peak level and longevity Robben easily beats him.
I had the pleasure to see them both break through at Groningen so followed them for pretty much their entire career, so I'm not entirely just basing this on blind Dutch player bias.
Robben was only a one trick pony if you know him from youtube highlights. Obviously the goals from the right are his trademark, but he also had a fantastic cross and throughball and is probably the best (or one of) the best dribblers of his generation. He didn't start playing on the right until his time in Munich and was also a sensational traditional winger in his early career. He just reinvented himself. I may have overreacted a bit by saying it's laughable Suarez is above him, but Robben's ability to basically function as a 1 man team is something I haven't seen any other Dutch player do in my lifetime. And that includes Gullit and Van Basten. Suarez was ofcourse a vital part of one of the best front 3s in history, but the M part of MSN was far and away the most important part of it. You could say he carried Liverpool of course, but he carried Liverpool to winning nothing in the end.Suarez was a much more complete player than Robben. Robben was a sort,-of one trick pony, albeit a very good one at it, whereas Suarez scored from every angle and situation. Robben should definitely be up there but Suarez should be somewhere in the top of the list, regardless what you think of him as a person
Henry 3rd best? I don't know, is he?
I would love to know why the hell Henry sits 21 places above Suarez when Henry has nothing on Suarez.
1. Suarez had the higher peak, had greater longevity, has a superior club career, and even has a superior international career once you apply context.
2. Suarez scored more goals than Henry at the World Cup despite playing for a vastly inferior national team.
3. Suarez has scored in a Copa America and Champions League final while Henry’s final records is abysmal.
4. Suarez won the golden boot twice without taking penalties at the height of Messi and CR7.
5. Suarez not only has far more career goals, but also has more career assists and is a statistically better chance creator than Henry.
Suarez >>> Henry in every single aspect
This seems very personal for you. Are you from Uruguay or something?I would love to know why the hell Henry sits 21 places above Suarez when Henry has nothing on Suarez.
1. Suarez had the higher peak, had greater longevity, has a superior club career, and even has a superior international career once you apply context.
2. Suarez scored more goals than Henry at the World Cup despite playing for a vastly inferior national team.
3. Suarez has scored in a Copa America and Champions League final while Henry’s final records is abysmal.
4. Suarez won the golden boot twice without taking penalties at the height of Messi and CR7.
5. Suarez not only has far more career goals, but also has more career assists and is a statistically better chance creator than Henry.
Suarez >>> Henry in every single aspect
You are a Feyenoorder on a Man Utd forum. Doesn't get much more anti Suarez than that unless you had something like Hala Madrid in your usernameadmit I'm MASSIVELY biast towards Robben. I realize that.![]()
It really has nothing to do with disliking Suarez. I just really really really love Robben.You are a Feyenoorder on a Man Utd forum. Doesn't get much more anti Suarez than that unless you had something like Hala Madrid in your username
The Uruguay team that Suarez played on doesn’t even come close to the France team that Henry played on. Henry played with Zidane, Ribery, Trezeguet, Vieira, Makelele, Thuram, Desailly… how is that even remotely comparable?First of all, Suarez didn't play for a 'vastly inferior' national team. He played for a country that has a lot less people, yes, but the team he played for was pretty damn good. We're not talking Haaland with Norway or anything ridiculous like that.
Secondly, Henry was a much more elegant player, and better to watch, IMO. Also, he is not a racist cannibal, but we'll leave that aside for now.
We also have to talk about Suarez's extraordinarily poor CL record. WTF happened there? Henry's is not amazing, but it's a lot better than Suarez's
It's literally 1 goal less, while playing 200 minutes less. It's such a bizzarely specific statistic to obsess about.Henry should have had an international career comparable to R9 given the circumstances he found himself in, and yet he has fewer goals than Suarez at the World Cup. Now that is some achievement.
Henry having an average international career despite very favourable circumstances is not one stat.It's literally 1 goal less, while playing 200 minutes less. It's such a bizzarely specific statistic to obsess about.
I've seen numerous of the modern Liverpool 'legends' live - Gerrard, Owen, Torres, Alonso, Salah, VVD etc. Suarez is head and shoulders above them, in terms of what he could do on the pitch, allied to an obsessive will to win. As good as Robben obviously was, I can't put him anywhere near Suarez.It really has nothing to do with disliking Suarez. I just really really really love Robben.
Suarez was good at Ajax, but it was in a mostly dominant PSV period where Feyenoord were mostly irrelevant. PSV fans dislike him much more (he also bit a PSV player). While a fantastic striker I simply think Robben is a more impactful player.
Also, I'm pretty sure everyone outside of Uruguay, Barcelona and Amsterdam dislike Suarez.
What are you talking about? Did you actually watch France in early 2000 to talk about "favourable circumstances"?Henry having an average international career despite very favourable circumstances is not one stat.
By the way, the reason why Henry played fewer minutes than Suarez at the World Cup, is because he was regularly benched or hooked due to poor performances.
He's nowhere near this level.No Bale is kind of ridiculous. Of course I am biased but he put Wales on his back and took them to 3 major tournaments and there a lot of other world class players from smaller nations who failed to do that for their countries.
If I was playing international football, I would like for it to be teammates with Zidane, Thuram, Vieira, Makelele, Ribery, etc… those seem like good circumstances to me.What are you talking about? Did you actually watch France in early 2000 to talk about "favourable circumstances"?
Fair enough. I suppose it's a bit down to preference as well. 2008-2014 Robben was so spectacular, but it's always more impactful when you root for someone I suppose.I've seen numerous of the modern Liverpool 'legends' live - Gerrard, Owen, Torres, Alonso, Salah, VVD etc. Suarez is head and shoulders above them, in terms of what he could do on the pitch, allied to an obsessive will to win. As good as Robben obviously was, I can't put him anywhere near Suarez.
We'd likely have a couple more CL/PLs if he'd have stayed on for Klopp's reign.
Exactly, it's all subjective with things like this, and it's hard not have a little bias, when needed.Fair enough. I suppose it's a bit down to preference as well. 2008-2014 Robben was so spectacular, but it's always more impactful when you root for someone I suppose.
Still, he should at least be in the list.
If you were paying even basic attention to NT football during that period, you would know that France was a completely embarassing circus that was always 1 bad result from completely throwing everything. Maybe, just maybe, the reason for lack of minutes and bad results is because that team despite apparently amazing circumstances had 2 embarassing group stage exits in 2002 and 2010? And how the hell are you calling his international achievements bad, when he actually won the damn thing and got another time into the final and was an important part of the team in both?If I was playing international football, I would like for it to be teammates with Zidane, Thuram, Vieira, Makelele, Ribery, etc… those seem like good circumstances to me.
He's nowhere near this level.