I would like Haaland but if we could get both Grealish and Sancho for that amount, I would do that deal with Rashford converting to a proper No. 9. The bottom line is if we create more, Rashford will score those chances. I mean how the hell does Sterling so many goals? It's because City create a tonne of chances. Grealish, Bruno and Sancho would create a tonne of chances for us. For this transfer window, Grealish, Bruno, and a CB would improve our squad tremendously.
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I’d take Grealish and Sancho together over Haaland too. Those two plus Rashford would be a potent front three and address out main issues in one swoop. You’d have Martial, Greenwood and Diallo to rotate in. Options. That said, failing those two together, it’d be Haaland or bust.
Exactly. Do clubs give a second thought when they want to dispose of a player? How many clubs look after the player to set their future up after the game?
Like Barnett said in his The Athletic interview, when Jose was battering Shaw, it was they who helped him alongside his family. Barnett & his team got Shaw to view his game & point out the good & bad stuff, things which go unseen by the public.
As someone mentioned before, if they're so bad, why do players have agents?
Certainly is.
Fans are just as fickle as the club owners, never forget that. Fans of a sad club will buy the merchandise etc of the player whilst at the club, however, very rarely once they've gone. So once a player has left the club, so do us fans putting money in their pockets and giving them a livelihood.
It's their agents who look after them their whole careers, and sometimes beyond. As I mentioned previously, there's a reason why these high profile players go to these big agents/agencies. Fans shouldn't get swirled up in all the media hype. Raiola has a way of expressing himself, which is should be more politely in the media, however, when you look at it objectively, there's nothing he has said that the fans themselves haven't said!
Yeah let’s focus on the high lines of Bundesliga and not the fact that he’s shattering scoring records in the CL.
Your concern is more valid for Sancho who looks good in the Bundesliga but has a poor CL record.
Haaland’s combination of pace, strength, movement and finishing is quite unique. You very rarely find so many top attributes in one player. On top of that his mentality is something else. The kid is a maniac. He plays the CL anthem every morning as motivation. He sleeps with his hat-trick balls. He lives and breathes for the big occasions.
Wherever he goes he will be a strong contender for the golden boot both domestically and in the CL every year for the next decade.
Everyone is fickle, including players and their agents. I don't disagree that agents exist because there is a need for agents to exist. However, at the same time, there's no reason for fans to be hooked to players once they've left their clubs (although we see it with some players on redcafe). The fans should support the football club and hence as a by product their support extends to anyone representing their club. As for what Raiola said, he's said enough rubbish to earn the disdain of United fans. That he has a 'way' of expressing himself is his own fault. And looking at it objectively, if the standard we're holding someone who is in the public eye to, is 'what fans themselves say' you know the individual concern is a grade A prick. I mean, Sir Alex disliked him, and he keeps coming out with little digs towards the football club, so it's only his actions that have created dislike towards him in the eyes of fans.
Look at the way the fans have had a go at Pogba, so why can't Raiola have a pop at the club? Look at the way we have been managed. I'm pretty sure a dream was sold to Pogba and look at what he's gotten back? We all abuse the owners for the very same things.
Of course he's going to react to Fergie. Look at what he said about him. Heck, his ex-players such as Keane have had a pop at Fergie for the way they were treated.
Of course fans have a right to dislike him, however, they need to understand that it's part of the business. Clubs get away with a far lot more than do these agents. All the agent is doing is protecting their players livelihood, something which the club will choose to do, if they are earning them a pretty penny.
I’m not sure that’s a good thing from a grown man. It’s something you would expect from an 11 year old.
The more I hear about this guy the less I think I want him at this club.
I don't hate the guy but he's clearly a massive toolbox
That’s why I called him a maniac.
I would take Haaland over Sancho and Grealish
Yeah, I totally get that too. I'd prefer if he wouldn't speak as much as he does, however, I can see why he does things the way he does.
But he does do a lot of our (fans) work for us.
Apparently Haaland is looking for 600k per week. Jog on if that’s the case. Pay Sancho and Grealish 250k each and we’re good to go.
Where's that from?
I'd also choose Sancho and Grealish over Haaland.
Yeah, I think we're lacking creativity over goal scoring. The problem is, we're just not creating enough against the low block teams to score.
think this is a misconception, we create alot of chances per se, but maybe not the kind of chances a proper no9 would benefit from
For all of the people abord the Håland hypetrain: do his sub-standard performances during the international break give you pause?
I just look back at games like Sheffield United at home, WBA away, Palace away, I just don't think we created enough chances to win a game. Yes we created the odd chance where I striker misses, whereby no striker has a 100% conversion rate, I just haven't seen us create so many chances to think we needed a striker to finish them off.
Having said that, I do believe we need a striker like Haaland to hold up the play and run in behind more. Someone who can utilise the crossing skills of Shaw. A player who camps out in the box. Our strikers far too often drop deep and not in the box to finish off any rebounds.
He'll join Madrid next summer
A clinical striker is essential in a team that isn't creating much - us for example. If we are carving out few chances it's important we don't fluff those that we manage to create.
I don't think Pep will be in for him, not his type of forward.
He's playing for Norway babe.
If it was just down to poor Bundesliga defensive tactics, he'd get found out in the CL.
Yet, he's top scorer... by a margin ... over Lewandowski, Messi, Mbappe, Ronaldo, etc.
That suggests someone who can do it in the harder (CL) games as well as the Bundesliga? And given the quality of the teams the others play in, that's something?
But agree that some PL clubs take a defensive line to the extremes which restricts space. He does score other types of goals though.
Would he get 40 here, doubt it. But 25+ and a good haul in CL games would be worth a lot. As would his mentality of not being phased by the occasion.
Yet he scored 6 goals in 7 games for Norway before this latest round of fixtures - not unlike his club records. I thought his finishing against Montenegro (where Ødegaard and others did give him supply) was shockingly poor.
He's very clinical and his movement around the box is fantastic, but that's pretty much all of his game. He contributes very little outside of this but he isn't the finished article and could change with more experience.
If a few bad sub-standard games in an international break is enough to give you pause then you should have pause about pretty much every international player who has ever played football.
Pretty sure there's a difference between the behaviour expected from fans and someone in the public limelight. Imagine If David Moyes was to react to fans when he was under pressure. It would be laughable.
On SAF vs Riaola, were talking about the greatest manager in football history and a cnutish agent. Really torn over who to back on that one.
If the reported demand of £600k per week wages is genuine, that is absolutely insane. Bringing in three or four players for the same combined total wages would make a far bigger difference to improving the team.
Halaand will go where Halaand wants to go, not where Raiola dictates. Raiolas job is to get the best possible wages for his client (and commission for himself).
Surely if he wants to go to City, and Raiola says no, he's just going to fire him. Same with the Pogba fiasco, Raiola just talks what his clients want him to talk.
He's a supreme talent and we should go all out to try and get him. If he chooses other clubs, then fair play. Even if he ends up with us, I can't see him staying for more than a couple of years.
Surely if he wants to go to City, and Raiola says no, he's just going to fire him. Same with the Pogba fiasco, Raiola just talks what his clients want him to talk.
He's a supreme talent and we should go all out to try and get him. If he chooses other clubs, then fair play. Even if he ends up with us, I can't see him staying for more than a couple of years.
Don't think we can afford him.
When Real signed Ronaldo we thought £80m was crazy, yet they spent it and then had a superstar legend winning them multiple Champions Leagues.
Whoever pays the high price Haaland will cost will deserve to have the next global superstar on their books
It likely won't be us.
Whoever pays the high price Haaland will cost will deserve to have the next global superstar on their books
It likely won't be us.
They clearly do add a value otherwise top players wouldn't use then and the top ones wouldn't have so many clients / earn millions.
I'd imagine the £600k a week was just the number he quoted Chelsea. He'd likely be more reasonable towards a club he actually wants to play for.
Hi Roman, thanks but we aren't the ones you need to try and put off.
Really can't see him being that cheap this summer. Dortmund can be very stubborn. They are more likely to sell Sancho than Haaland.
This is not the Manchester FC Forum? Dammit man, I need better advisers!
If it's this summer I can't see him going to any of those clubs because they don't have the kind of money Dortmund want to waste on one player. I think Haaland will wait till summer 2022 to get his move to either Madrid in Spain or City in England
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