Erling Haaland

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Jericholyte2 said:
Would we all accept blowing the entire summer budget (and then some) on just getting Haaland with no other incomings?
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Yes. It's not ideal but it would still be warranted.

We cannot afford to;
A) Loose the best option possible for our no. 9 position
B) Loose him to a feckin rival in City

Just cannot allow that to happen, at any cost.
 
RkkMan said:
Your logic will only apply if they don't get CL football but with it they are still in a strong position to keep him or sell only for a premium fee BVB are a selling club but not as desperate as people think. Their project is worth more than the profits hence why they sold Dembele for 150m even when he handed in a transfer request and why they were firm on Sancho and speaking of Sancho he's leaving this summer and as @Zehner told me last summer BVB are all about PR it'll be disastrous for them to sell both their stars in the same summer so unless a catastrophic financial disaster happens they'll sell Sancho and keep Haaland till 2022
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Last year the situation was like this: Everybody assumed Sancho would leave. Few BVB fans had hopes he'd stay over the summer. Then Dortmund communicated the deadline (and in Germany, everybody took that seriously) and dropped the Sancho extension bomb, the deadline passed and the BVB communicated he's staying. It would've seemed as if the BVB leadership toyed with the club's fans for no reason at all if he left after this. And especially since they're so desperate to draw levels with the other big European clubs, it would've fed certain inferiority complexes ("selling club", "local phenomenon and no global player", narratives like that) they have had at the very least since the Götze departure to Bayern. Expectations are the key word: They've communicated this so clearly that there was no going back from it.

Anyway, that was last year and right now I think the situation is very hard to judge. If you ask most fans, they expect a Sancho departure this year and a Haaland one next year but also have hopes of seeing them together for another season. It's uncertain, primarily because there are no public statements or anything like that. Right now everything is possible. I could imagine that both players are going to leave but also that both are staying. I could imagine that Dortmund are willing to accept smaller fees as well as them demanding a similar amount to last year, without any Corona discount. I can also imagine that there are no interests at all since the players are just too expensive in the current environent. And then there's also the possibility that the players deem no offer interesting enough, either monetarily or ambition-wise. This could even lead to Sancho extending for another year for higher salaries, especially if Haaland stays and Rose leaves a good first impression on him.

It's just too early. Once summer is here and the rumors start becoming to most relevant topics again, let's see what happens.
 
Why would anyone buy him for 180 when he is available for 75 next year.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Nobody is spending 180m this summer, it's just ludicrous to even think it.

If Dortmund really have (I doubt it) set that figure then they'll just have to wait until next season and lose him for a cut price.

Honestly buying Sancho this summer, then Haaland next could work out to be perfect for us.
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It's just a bargaining position. I could see him go for 100m this summer. Chelsea would be happy to pay that I would imagine. I don't think they can hold onto him for another season.

edit: or City/PSG given the FFP thing as @macheda14 points out
 
If ya'll don't think Haaland isn't willing to turn down any offers this year if it means he can get 50-100m sign on bonus the year after.

But yeah, nobody will pay 180m.
Saturday April 3rd will be very interesting, as Dortmund plays the team ahead of them in the table (by 4 points). If they lose or draw they will only have 7 games left to make up a 4-7 point difference in order to get CL. And the team behind them is only 3 points behind as well.

If they lose out on CL he will likely push for a move. If they get CL he'll be more fine with staying another year with Rose and them, as he'll get better terms at the next club.
 
Bastian said:
It's just a bargaining position. I could see him go for 100m this summer. Chelsea would be happy to pay that I would imagine. I don't think they can hold onto him for another season.

edit: or City/PSG given the FFP thing as @macheda14 points out
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Is a profit of a mere 25m on the release clause worth selling Haaland for a year in advance though? With him and Marco Rose they stand a very high chance of winning a trophy, mounting a title challenge and qualifying for the CL againwhilst showing they are no pushovers in the market. All that is worth more than an extra 25m if BVB were so easy going they'd sell Sancho for a cheaper fee last summer or they'd have sold Dembele for a lesser fee and Haaland is a bigger talent than them. Unless they miss top 4 they won't sell for anything below double the Clause
 
lysglimt said:
I am convinced we can get him for £80-90 million + v.d.Beek
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No chance. He'll leave for much less than the demanded 180million assuming Dortmund fail to make the CL and he pushes for a move, but it won't be anywere as low as that. It also doesn't make sense for us to ditch VDB after one season.
 
Kaos said:
No chance. He'll leave for much less than the demanded 180million assuming Dortmund fail to make the CL and he pushes for a move, but it won't be anywere as low as that. It also doesn't make sense for us to ditch VDB after one season.
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Dortmund are demanding £150 million if you are to believe todays news - 180 million is euros. It makes perfect sense because there is no way we will pay £150 million or close to it, and v.d.Beek is a player who could be tempted to go to Dortmund, and I think they would want him
 
lysglimt said:
Dortmund are demanding £150 million if you are to believe todays news - 180 million is euros
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Yeah I meant in Euros. If he pushes for a move then I can see Dortmund still hardballing for a more 'realistic' figure of around £110-120 million. I don't think they'd let him go for less than £100million.
 
I wouldn't be surprise if City, PSG, and Chelsea offered the £150m this Summer just to secure his signing and not have to fight agains other big teams next Summer.

I would love us to spend that kind money on him to be honest. Yeah we need to strengthen on other areas, but I think if we build a team around him we will dominate the league for years. For me that is worth the £150m.

Sell as much deadwood as we can, get him plus a CB and I will be happy this Summer
 
FrankDrebin said:
I think our summer budget is much smaller than the reported Haaland fee.
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So do I, and to be honest I doubt he's worth 150 million euros, maybe to City or PSG, not to us. I would rather we spent wisely on 2-3 players than blow an obscene amount on one striker.
 
Bastian said:
It's just a bargaining position. I could see him go for 100m this summer. Chelsea would be happy to pay that I would imagine. I don't think they can hold onto him for another season.

edit: or City/PSG given the FFP thing as @macheda14 points out
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Yeah I think 100m is more realistic and still a great premium for Dortmund. That's still pushing it in COVID times.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Nobody is spending 180m this summer, it's just ludicrous to even think it.

If Dortmund really have (I doubt it) set that figure then they'll just have to wait until next season and lose him for a cut price.

Honestly buying Sancho this summer, then Haaland next could work out to be perfect for us.
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Get Sancho and a DM and whatever else we need this summer then go all out next for Haaland next.
 
Got no idea why people think City would go near that price the most they've paid is for Rodri just over 65 million. I don't see any club paying 180 million.
 
sglowrider said:
Isnt that what we did with Alexi Sanchez?
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Sanchez came in January 2018, usually not a lot of transfers in that window.

The summer before we got Matic, Lindelöf and Lukaku for a total of €165m.

Summer after was "Just" Fred, Dalot and Grant for €83m. But that was including Sanchez on insane salary in Jan, and the start of the Mou clash/meltdown on not agreeing on transfer targets as that was the first summer we started with a transfer committee.

That said, with all the grief we had over Sanchez I'm kinda amazed he was only at the club for 1.5 seasons before going loan.
It felt like much longer.
 
Set price can be anything. Actual sale price will be very different.

If you can get him next year for $75m and the market doesn't bite, they will relent and lose out on another €30-60m extra funds. Perhaps they won't get into the UCL and then they've lost out twice.

I wouldn't worry about what BvB come out with, it's posturing.
 
I think the asking price only makes sense as an attempt to scare off interest. Given how the Sancho situation was handled, I don't think you can assume it's a bargaining ploy or an opening move.

If they fail to qualify for the CL, it'll be interesting to see if Haaland stays on board, or if he then baulks at being priced out of the market.
 
I think someone may offer £90-100 million and In that scenario Dortmund will try to get a bidding frenzy going. If that fails then yeah, they’ll take it.
 
Haaland hasnt turned 21 and is up there with the best strikers in the world, a position we need filling. We also have Woodward. This time, a statement bid/buy wouldnt surprise me. Will it be enough? Lets hope so!
 
Bidding wars are a bit of a nonsense, he'll know where he wants to go. He's not going to go because a team is offering Dortmund more money "Oh Chelsea are offering you most eh? Guess I'm going there then!". Now in terms of a bidding war over his wages etc. yeah maybe.
 
None of us have a clue what we’ll have in our financial watchest, but if we can assume we’re financially competitive for Haaland’s services — which admittedly may be insane — he has to be our highest priority.

We don’t have a proper 9. United have never won major trophies without a proper 9. We’re not going to win major trophies in the future without a proper 9.

Of course we would improve with a new DM and CB, but if we still struggle to convert chances into goals we’ll still be just a top four club.

The thread may exist, but perhaps we should start an “alternatives to Haaland” thread as the pessisimists are probably right to have a laugh at the suggestion that Haaland would ever have any interest in joining United. But I hope those pessimists would agree that we don’t have anyone on our squad currently who is anywhere near the goal scoring cyborg that is Erling Haaland.
 
Jericholyte2 said:
Would we all accept blowing the entire summer budget (and then some) on just getting Haaland with no other incomings?
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Yep, we're 2nd now. Add his goals to this team and we wouldn't be worse off, we'd 100% progress on how we're doing now. If we can get him this year, sort the rest out next year
 
Adam-Utd said:
Yeah I think 100m is more realistic and still a great premium for Dortmund. That's still pushing it in COVID times.
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100m? You think that's realistic and rather pushing it, huh?
If he goes this summer it'll be for 150m at least. He's bound to duke out the next ten Ballon d'Ors with Mbappe. It's hilarious to suggest 100m to be an adequate fee.
 
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