Erling Haaland

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RkkMan said:
My issue isn't necessarily the clause itself but the way it's been set up.
If it was something around £100m with conditions that no PL team can trigger it that would have been acceptable as it offers you insurance and a good profit, but a £70m clause for a player who's worth double the value that can be triggered by anyone? Just so that the agent and his dad can get a massive pay day? That's being taken for a ride.
Factor in his dad is a City icon and his agency is under the late Raiola and you have zero reasons for being trustworthy
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His dad is a City nobody. He played 47 games for them.
 
Nero said:
His dad is a City nobody. He played 47 games for them.
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Former City player then. Him and Haaland Jr have gone to watch tonnes of City games together too when he was younger you're being intentionally ignorant to think their isn't a City link in the Haaland family
 
RkkMan said:
City were nowhere near their current level in the early 2010s they didn't need to include a release clause when they bought Aguero
Liverpool were nowhere near their current level when Klopp came or even pre Klopp didn't stop them from selling key players for big money or making top signings that actually stayed.
There isn't any way you can justify opening a Pandora's Box that makes players and agents see us as a richer version of Dortmund even for a player as good as Haaland's.
You're forgetting one thing in regards to your measley profit we'd have to replace Haaland on top of the holes that are already there if you think an extra £50m with a £100-150m budget is enough to replace a £150m striker then there's nothing meaningful we can discuss
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Look I get what you mean, its not a perfect scenario for us, but then we are no longer not at perfect situation. You don't have to go back all early 2010s to make a point. We haven't won a single trophy in past 5 years, this is the reality. The smarter we do our business, the less money it would cost us, and the better we could invest for future. We've already spent a billion over the past few years, and our most expensive signings are either flops or going to leave on free after their contract ends. We should work smarter
 
RedRonaldo said:
Look I get what you mean, its not a perfect scenario for us, but then we are no longer not at perfect situation. You don't have to go back all early 2010s to make a point. We haven't won a single trophy in past 5 years, this is the reality. The smarter we do our business, the less money it would cost us, and the better we could invest for future. We've already spent a billion over the past few years, and our most expensive signings are either flops or going to leave on free after their contract ends. We should work smarter
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And I don't disagree that we have to make smarter signings to get us back to the top. It doesn't justify the need to act like sluts for every player/agent only using us as a stepping stone and big pay day otherwise Dortmund and Ajax would be much stronger than they are.
With our new football setup and soon recruitment/scouting department it's now their job to find the next best things who would actually be hungry to come here. It's worked well for our two biggest rivals
 
DWelbz19 said:
I see what you’re saying, but I think most clubs will overlook his inability to do anything other than score because his record is quite frankly freakish in virtually every competiton he’s played in. Like, he is “just” an insanely quick and strong goalscorer, but he’s the very top percentile in that category.
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Agreed ... With Mino out of the way (RiP), I wonder if he will be more open to moving to a fallen/sleeping giant like United. United can clearly pay and he would have a higher chance of getting Balon d'Or ... I mean for all his brilliance why has De Bruyne never been in the top-5 of Balon d'Or? Pep's teams rely so much on teamwork that even the standout players don't stand heads and shoulders above their teammates. For example Salah/Mane clearly look superior to every other Liverpool player and are required to display more individualism, so they get noticed by everyone when Liverpool does well.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Assist stats for strikers aren't typically a good barometer on ability to play with the ball. Romelu Lukaku got 11 assists last season in Serie A.
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In all depends on what kinds of assists, right. I'm not talking about rebounds. In Haalands case he's surprisingly unselfish around the box and times passes well. Look up brace + 2 assists vs Frankfurt, and you see what I mean.
 
Chicharo said:
Saying we don't need him is just a matter of sour grape. He'll never come to us, and he would be scoring for fun if he did
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Pretty sure no one would be scoring for fun in this current side.
 
Rangnick has mentioned his name. Small possibility but still.
 
RkkMan said:
My issue isn't necessarily the clause itself but the way it's been set up.
If it was something around £100m with conditions that no PL team can trigger it that would have been acceptable as it offers you insurance and a good profit, but a £70m clause for a player who's worth double the value that can be triggered by anyone? Just so that the agent and his dad can get a massive pay day? That's being taken for a ride.
Factor in his dad is a City icon and his agency is under the late Raiola and you have zero reasons for being trustworthy
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so you wouldn't have wanted him for the past three years? I'd have loved to have him in the side - I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have been in danger of a place in the Europa Conference at any stage
 
mitchmouse said:
Ole failed to get him first time round so I'm pretty sure wouldn't have suceeded this time
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Well, at that time, he was 18 or 19 & still trying to make it whilst at UTD, Rashy & Martial were doing a lot better than they have done for the past year or so, so, he wanted to go to Dortmund to play football & not sit on the UTD bench, plus, that release clause thing was an issue for UTD, but this summer Haaland would know for a fact he would've been a regular starter (even with Ronaldo still here)
 
UTD_Since_1978 said:
Well, at that time, he was 18 or 19 & still trying to make it whilst at UTD, Rashy & Martial were doing a lot better than they have done for the past year or so, so, he wanted to go to Dortmund to play football & not sit on the UTD bench, plus, that release clause thing was an issue for UTD, but this summer Haaland would know for a fact he would've been a regular starter (even with Ronaldo still here)
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I think, based on his camp's briefing to the Norwegian media at the time, that it was Ole's very insecure position as a manager (strong reports of him getting sacked at the time) that made Team Haaland opt against moving to United. They felt that only Ole wanted him, not the club.
 
I'm going out on a limb here and have a feeling we are going to sign Haaland this summer.

Rangnick keeps mentioning him almost like he is trying to convince the board.
 
BarstoolProphet said:
I think, based on his camp's briefing to the Norwegian media at the time, that it was Ole's very insecure position as a manager (strong reports of him getting sacked at the time) that made Team Haaland opt against moving to United. They felt that only Ole wanted him, not the club.
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shame the rumours weren't true!
 
RkkMan said:
Former City player then. Him and Haaland Jr have gone to watch tonnes of City games together too when he was younger you're being intentionally ignorant to think their isn't a City link in the Haaland family
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Erling is a Leeds fan
 
I wonder how raiola's passing (rip) is going to affect his transfer , I'm assuming there won't as bug of a commission for riola like it would have been but maybe his father is going to that instead?
 
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Sums up how circumstances have transpired against us that City get Haaland when Riola's no longer around to cause trouble
 
It's been all over the news for days that the man has passed yet you gnomes still can't spell his name. It's Raiola, not Riola.
 
Not point in daydreaming about Haaland. He's City bound, its done and dusted imo
 
UTD_Since_1978 said:
Well, at that time, he was 18 or 19 & still trying to make it whilst at UTD, Rashy & Martial were doing a lot better than they have done for the past year or so, so, he wanted to go to Dortmund to play football & not sit on the UTD bench, plus, that release clause thing was an issue for UTD, but this summer Haaland would know for a fact he would've been a regular starter (even with Ronaldo still here)
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BarstoolProphet said:
I think, based on his camp's briefing to the Norwegian media at the time, that it was Ole's very insecure position as a manager (strong reports of him getting sacked at the time) that made Team Haaland opt against moving to United. They felt that only Ole wanted him, not the club.
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Neither are true.

The only reason Haaland didn’t end up at Utd was because we refused to have the release clause in the deal. No other reason.

Dortmund CEO even confirmed it this week that Haaland would be at Utd if it wasn’t for the clause.
 
Someone compared him to Lukaku and the frightening thing is, that I cannot get that out of my head totally. It is not THAT wrong… Explosive speed, strong, okayish technique, strangely not great with the back to the goal, lacking a good first touch… Haaland‘s vision is better and he has age on his side but the comparison got me thinking.
 
Suv666 said:
Not point in daydreaming about Haaland. He's City bound, its done and dusted imo
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I presume they won't push ahead for Kane now and that he wouldn't go there to possibly play second fiddle. Not that he's be stupid enough to come to us...
 
I think Lukaku comparisons are not totally wrong. I’d even say Vardy is a player who Haaland is similar too.

Playing for City will be an easier task than playing for Chelsea or United but I’m really interested to see how he gets on in the English league.
 
I can see a clash of styles with haaland and pep, haaland doesn't strike me as the type of striker you have for a tika taka style of play and the best pep sides have centred around small agile attacking players that can be flexible in their positioning and play in tight spaces.

Could it be another Ibrahimovic/Barca scenario for pep?
 
RuudTom83 said:
I think Lukaku comparisons are not totally wrong. I’d even say Vardy is a player who Haaland is similar too.

Playing for City will be an easier task than playing for Chelsea or United but I’m really interested to see how he gets on in the English league.
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It is. Totally wrong.
 
Chief123 said:
Neither are true.

The only reason Haaland didn’t end up at Utd was because we refused to have the release clause in the deal. No other reason.

Dortmund CEO even confirmed it this week that Haaland would be at Utd if it wasn’t for the clause.
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Dortmund CEO confirmed that THEY wouldn't have gotten him if they didn't agree to the buyout clause. Meaning he was leaning towards United until they agreed to the clause.

That doesn't mean we would have gotten him if we agreed to it as well.

It's never just one reason for choosing a club, there was many factors for the decision, ultimately he got a great stepping stone club with guaranteed starts and guaranteed Champions League, with a big upcoming payday for sign-on fee with the clause as long as he stayed on his upwards trajectory.
 
NewUser777 said:
It is. Totally wrong.
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Why? Both are tall, physical strikers with explosive acceleration and great movement who's aim is getting in behind defences.

Both are potent finishers but lack the all-round technical game of other strikers. I don't see the comparison as being that far off at all.
 
Lukaku has explosive acceleration? Lukaku has agility and balance?
I have never seen Lukaku run this fast


This is peak Owen/Martins acceleration and top speed
 
GifLord said:
Lukaku has explosive acceleration? Lukaku has agility and balance?
I have never seen Lukaku run this fast


This is peak Owen/Martins acceleration and top speed
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Both feast on their physical talents, aren’t good at heading the ball, have a suspect first touch and are surprisingly bad as hold-up players with their back to the goal.
 
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