20M shouldn’t impede our ambitions to spend elsewhere... When these chances present themselves we must take them.
Erling Haaland / signs for Dortmund
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Yes - exactly my point.
If - as has been reported - we are looking for a couple of midfielders, a right winger and a striker, then we'll sign those we can in January. Who knows if this is all PR fluff or actual intent. But I think Haaland for a cut-price deal represents great value. And he probably won't struggle as much as you think because he's more of an authentic #9, so he can get on the end of some of those James crosses, he can bully defenders, he can get himself in the box when we start looking for someone and no one is there.
Of course midfield is more important, but if we can get him now, we should. I'd just question giving a megastar salary to a 19 year old, if we're trying to change the commercial mercenary culture we've created in the last 6-7 years.
Like I said, I don't see much issues spending 20 millions on a kid as talented as what this thread claim him to be. It won't affect our future spending after all but it'salso important to remember he won't change much with our current situation of the midfield isn't sorted out first.
People have also got to stop saying that he'll be able to come here and straight away be this PL ready player and slot in seemlessly. He's still coming from a far lower league, played at a slower pace and he's 19 years old. Players coming from better leagues, in better stage of their careers have found it hard to adapt to the PL. It's not that simple.
Don't even know where to start so I won't even bother.
There is no point repeating same posts again and again.
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I really want him here -
but the one positive of not getting him here is that we would be getting a left footed right winger instead 100%.
but the one positive of not getting him here is that we would be getting a left footed right winger instead 100%.
If he is a top CF in the making I'd go for him but I'd definitely prioritize Sancho and 2 midfielders ahead of him.
A lot of noise coming from Italy that he’s going to Juve.......
if that’s the case then that agent of his is pulling all the strings yet again and he’s basically just being pawned around to the club that will pay the agent the biggest fee......or he’s thrown his toys out of the pram over not getting his way with Pogba
is he going to get much game time at Juve? Also when is someone going to look at their FFP? Their wage bill must be astronomical these days.....
if that’s the case then that agent of his is pulling all the strings yet again and he’s basically just being pawned around to the club that will pay the agent the biggest fee......or he’s thrown his toys out of the pram over not getting his way with Pogba
is he going to get much game time at Juve? Also when is someone going to look at their FFP? Their wage bill must be astronomical these days.....
I can't fathom why if he comes to United its where he wanted but if he goes elsewhere its all Raiolas fault becase he wants agnent fees.
Especially given we pay more in agent fees and wages than pretty much anyone else.
If he comes here then great, but I can compeltely understand a kid with every major club in Europe asking about him wanting to go somewhere where he'll be nailed on to win a trophy in the next 2 years.
Won't say a lot for our pulling power if we fail to land this lad despite OGS's relationship with him
Don't see why any sane player would pick United over Juve though tbh
Don't see why any sane player would pick United over Juve though tbh
Who care where he decides to play if he decides not coming here. We as a club only have ourselves to blame to not be able to attract some of the best talent. Any how, as it has always been, you win some, you lose some. But an over riding factor has to be the desire of the player to come here.
There’s plenty of reasons.
Why do people give spouting this nonsense as if we are some kind of chump club.
Playing time would be a very key reason on top of all that too. He will no doubt have a premier league preference due to growing up around it.
we need to be a lot more creative and proactive in our recruitment. We could have had this lad and Maguire for nothing a few years ago. Everybody knew about them. You just have to bid for them as young as possible. When they become class and have a choice of clubs then we either miss out or end up paying fortunes to the same players for a few years PL experience. Why don’t they ask Fergie who he’d sign. He could certainly still spot a player (just not a manager it seems)
You seem to be so sure about this. May I ask it's based on what ?
20 £m is pretty much nothing with the crazy prices these days. And for a very promising striker who scored 8 goals in the CL at 19 years old? It'd be mental to say no.
I understand your worries about our midfield and agree that must be fixed asap but I don't think spending 20 £m on a striker could stop us from doing that if we really want to do.
For me the question whether Haaland would come good for us is pretty simple. Given the fact Ole had worked with him at Molde he must be the best one at Utd to answer that question. And of course as Ole would know about football much better than our lot here so if he decides to sign him, the lad must be decent at the least.
If we sign him I'd be over the moon tbh.
We've got Rashford, Martial and of course our new wonderboy Greenwood. We don't need Haaland as much as we need other positions. Don't know what's wrong with everyone.
Need a new world class CDM, another creative midfielder, a new left back and maybe another winger.
Need a new world class CDM, another creative midfielder, a new left back and maybe another winger.
See it think we do need Harland.
Martial 23
Rashford 22
James 22
Haaland 19
Greenwood 18
Thats a forward line that could be sorted for years and has a healthy amount of competition for all.
Martial 23
Rashford 22
James 22
Haaland 19
Greenwood 18
Thats a forward line that could be sorted for years and has a healthy amount of competition for all.
Because our team so far is dysfunctional without fixing the midfield. I've seen better players coming from better league struggle upon getting here because we weren't a well functioning team. World class players(at the time) like DiMaria came here and struggled.
A kid from the Austrian league coming to a struggling team won't shine here. It might have been different if he was walking into a well working and functioning team firing in almost all cylinders but not a team that has glaring holes and struggling to do well.
At Juve he would go on developing his skills without too much pressure to decide games on his own and then sold for big monies in two or three years, you know... classic Juve signing, really, they work very well with both Raiola and Mendes right now, so nothing new if he ends there.
Are there any credible links to Juve? I’ve seen tuttosport and Calciomerceta, both of who are pretty crap from what I remember. Surely the likes of Di Marzio and Fabrizio Romano would have been on it if it was credible?
But its not. Its not healthy squad management to have every player in more or less one age bracket. Its going to lead to problems long-term and you will have major issues with giving a lot of young players the minutes that they need.
This idea that we would be "sorted for years" is naive for the same exact reason. Next summer there will be a new Haaland, Dembele or Joao Felix available which the Caf will scream for. And the year after and so on.
Also: the jury is pretty much out on Haaland until he performs over time in a bigger league. Fred was awesome in the CL as well, but played in a league of the similar quality as the Austrian.
I wont be upset if he comes and would welcome him, but I surely would prefer the investment be made elsewhere first and foremost.
If we do need a striker (I dont think so) I would go for an older one that wont hamper Greenwoods progress for example. And keep the squad age healthy attacking-wise.
There will be a new Haaland in a year or two.
If Mbappe wanted to join, I would not mind, but that would be the exception to the rule. But he is a generational talent.
Just the tuttosport rumour from what I can find.
Nothing in norwegian media either other than some gossip pages all linking to tuttosport.
I said ‘could’ be sorted for years. If you need to offload one they have good resale value which plays a part. If he comes for £20m it’s a no brainer and I don’t buy that it will hamper Greenwood as I think he’ll play out wide for another season or two and maybe permanently.
Agree, however this buy not only help us to provide more cover and options but a good future investment as well imo. And the Di Maria case it was because LVG tried to make him the new Robben and his plan was to go to PSG from the start if my memory serves me right.
Back to Haaland, maybe he won't kick it here immediately but he's only 19 years old and only 20 £m if the reports regarding the release clause are true. Even if he fails we still would offload him for at least that sum imo. When there's a chance for such a promising player with that price you must grab it with both hands I think, 20 £m is pretty nothing these days.
Well, its interesting that. I personally find Greenwood to be too slow (or he is not slow, but he does not have lightning pace) to play as proper RW. Inside forward or what you want to call it, OK. But his future position is at #9 IMO.
Then we have to consider what happens if we bring in Sancho? Who at least is my first choice offensively this summer.
Is there really place for both Sancho and Haaland in this squad considering what would happen to Greenwood and his minutes then?
Plus we need at least two top class midfielders this summer. Three if Pogba departs.
yeah feck it 325 formation all the way, Bollocks to defending
we need more strikers.Depends how much he would cost us. If only 20m, it’s no brainier really. If cost around 50m, I’d still say yes, it’s a risk worth taking. However if he cost over 80m, no thanks, I’d rather go for Sancho for more.
As some posters here have pointed out if it's 80 £m the reports of him coming to Dortmund must be bollocks. No way Dortmund could afford that sum imo.
The only team in Germany capable to spend 50+ £m on a player is Bayern Munich. I've checked and the record fee Dortmund has paid is 30 €m for André Schürrle in 2016.
It does not matter what the transfer fee will be. The total cost for the buying club will be basically the same.
If he actually has a 20m release clause, the difference up to 80 m will end up as a signonfee, in Raiolas pockets and/or an extravagant wage package to go with it.
The total cost of Haalands transfer will be determined by the total package the interested clubs will cough up. It does not matter how its divided up in transfer fee/signon fee/agent fee/total wage package.
Why? Who even came up with 80 million? Why 80 million and not 40 million or 100 million?
Why not both? 20 million is nothing.
He's not going for £20m. How many fecking times!!!
.....it's like getting with a girl that everyone wants to be with, only to get with her and you wonder what the fuss was all about.
We are a cnuthair away from being in another attacking crisis and having to play Lingard up front - anyone turning their nose up at one the top striking prospects in Europe is mad.
We have 3 players capable of playing striker and two of them start every game. One injury and we’re completely fecked up front and out wide. I can’t see how a striker isn’t a priority.
They'd also be the first ones to complain when they see Lingard and co in the starting line up.
Please let it be true he is going to Juventus.
We need another two attacking players, never mind the one. A striker and a winger. If the club think Haaland is good enough and a sensible deal can be struck then they should go for it.
In its current guise, this team is an injury to Martial and/or Pogba away from being totally fecked.
In addition, the argument that we should be prioritising the midfield is tosh. Just because we need a midfielder more doesn’t mean that we should neglect the rest of the squad.
Complete lottery whether this lad can immediately come in and do a job, and given his age and the league he's come from, I suggest he's not. You might be right that we need a player but he's not it if we need cover.
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