Erling Haaland | Dortmund player

He's got what Ronaldo developed in his mid-late twenties. This insane obsession with goal poaching. The hunger and drive to keep pushing the defense line back to get on the end of something, in turn, pushes the whole team forward. It creates a suction towards goal and he just happens to be on the end of everything.

He'll finish this season with 50 goals.
 
Just unreal. I'll struggle to get over missing out on this lad. Imagine him and Bruno being our January signings...the stuff of wet dreams!
 
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I´d rather suggest his next step is to the PL, United or not. He´s born in England, his father spent his carreer
Okey said:
Just unreal. I'll struggle to get over missing out on this lad. Imagine him and Bruno being our January signings...the stuff of wet dreams!
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Plus Sancho in the summer. Can you imagine.
 
Is it true that the release clause doesn't activate for three years?

If so, I don't see why it was even an issue. Long before that point he'd already be in negotiations for a new contract. Sure, it would give his team more leverage, but if he develops as expected that's something the club would have to deal with regardless.
 
Big Ben Foster said:
Is it true that the release clause doesn't activate for three years?

If so, I don't see why it was even an issue. Long before that point he'd already be in negotiations for a new contract. Sure, it would give his team more leverage, but if he develops as expected that's something the club would have to deal with regardless.
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There's been reports of both a €50m release clause applicable from summer 2022 and a €75m release clause applicable from summer 2021. Have no idea what's the actual source for either claim, it's possible both, one, or neither are true.
 
Painful to see him and Sancho, being sold for peanuts.

I don't expect them to replicate the stats in England but christ we are crying out for both.
 
He has Sancho, Brandt, Reus behind him at Dortmund. He wouldn't be scoring any goals feeding off the likes of Pereira and Lingard here.
 
It is all well having a great players in your side but you need a good manager to coach them. The way Ole played Bruno today was embarrassing - Haaland is better off being coached by proper people.
 
memelord said:
He has Sancho, Brandt, Reus behind him at Dortmund. He wouldn't be scoring any goals feeding off the likes of Pereira and Lingard here.
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Rashford, Martial etcetera are the ones you ought to compare with, but I think you know that.
 
Litch said:
Wouldn't show this talent in this team.....
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He would be much less effective in our set up thats for sure.

Not to mention we play in a much tougher league than the bundesliga.

Can't take anything away from dortmund and this kid haaland though. They are great going forwards and he is in the perfect environment to set himself up for his next big move. Hopefully to us in a couple of years time, after he has sacked that fat feck.
 
Handré1990 said:
He’s incredibly lethal in front of goal, and quite effective in his overall game. Still find it funny there were posters arguing against his speed and technique. Lukaku, I believe many compared him too. The only thing comparable is their hunger: Lukaku’s for food and Haaland’s for goals.
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His speed is one of his greatest assets, really fast player.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
That sucks. Dortmund will be pushing for renegotiation of that clause soon
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Do you REALLY think that is realistic? Especially with that fat feck insisting on it in the first place?

Thats how raiola makes his money, he gets a cut of the transfer fee and other agent fees when the player moves clubs.

He obviously doesn't get much if anything at all for renewing a deal. He also certainly would ask for a wage that dortmund would never be able to afford.
 
DevilRed said:
Do you REALLY think that is realistic? Especially with that fat feck insisting on it in the first place?

Thats how raiola makes his money, he gets a cut of the transfer fee and other agent fees when the player moves clubs.

He obviously doesn't get much if anything at all for renewing a deal. He also certainly would ask for a wage that dortmund would never be able to afford.
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I also think Haaland Sr gets a cut of the transfer. Just my opinion. I may be wrong.
 
We should buy him and Sancho in the summer. If we can convince them both to join at the same time they might feel the project is for them, which it would be.
 
Golden Shoe standings
46 Ciro Immobile (Lazio, ITA) – 23 goals x 2 league multiplier
44 Robert Lewandowski (Bayern München, GER) – 22 x 2
40 Timo Werner (Leipzig, GER) – 20 x 2
38 Erling Braut Haaland (Salzburg, AUT/Dortmund, GER) – 16 x 1.5, 7 x 2
34 Cristiano Ronaldo (Juventus, ITA) – 17 x 2
34 Jamie Vardy (Leicester, ENG) – 17 x 2
32 Sergio Agüero (Manchester City, ENG) – 16 x 2
31 Erik Sorga (Flora Tallinn, EST) – 31 x 1
30 Wissam Ben Yedder (Monaco, FRA) – 15 x 2
28.5 Ilya Shkurin (Zvezda, BLR) – 19 x 1.5
28 Romelu Lukaku (Inter, ITA) – 14 x 2
28 Kylian Mbappé (Paris, FRA) – 14 x 2
28 Marcus Rashford (Manchester United, ENG) – 14 x 2
28 Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (Arsenal, ENG) – 14 x 2
28 Danny Ings (Southampton, ENG) – 14 x 2
28 Lionel Messi (Barcelona, ESP) – 14 x 2
28 Mohamed Salah (Liverpool, ENG) – 14 x 2
28 João Pedro (Cagliari, ITA) – 14 x 2

The madman is in contention despite playing half the season in a 1.5x league. And he has barely played 1200 minutes of league football :lol:
 
mu4c_20le said:
Austrian league should be x1
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Why? The ratings are based on UEFA coefficients. Besides the lesser leagues play fewer games. In 1.5x leagues you probably need to score 35+ (well over a goal a game) to even compete with the best scorers from the top leagues.
 
Samid said:
Golden Shoe standings
46 Ciro Immobile (Lazio, ITA) – 23 goals x 2 league multiplier
44 Robert Lewandowski (Bayern München, GER) – 22 x 2
40 Timo Werner (Leipzig, GER) – 20 x 2
38 Erling Braut Haaland (Salzburg, AUT/Dortmund, GER) – 16 x 1.5, 7 x 2
34 Cristiano Ronaldo (Juventus, ITA) – 17 x 2
34 Jamie Vardy (Leicester, ENG) – 17 x 2
32 Sergio Agüero (Manchester City, ENG) – 16 x 2
31 Erik Sorga (Flora Tallinn, EST) – 31 x 1
30 Wissam Ben Yedder (Monaco, FRA) – 15 x 2
28.5 Ilya Shkurin (Zvezda, BLR) – 19 x 1.5
28 Romelu Lukaku (Inter, ITA) – 14 x 2
28 Kylian Mbappé (Paris, FRA) – 14 x 2
28 Marcus Rashford (Manchester United, ENG) – 14 x 2
28 Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (Arsenal, ENG) – 14 x 2
28 Danny Ings (Southampton, ENG) – 14 x 2
28 Lionel Messi (Barcelona, ESP) – 14 x 2
28 Mohamed Salah (Liverpool, ENG) – 14 x 2
28 João Pedro (Cagliari, ITA) – 14 x 2

The madman is in contention despite playing half the season in a 1.5x league. And he has barely played 1200 minutes of league football :lol:
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Who's this Erik Sorga lad? Maybe we should sign him. not a serious suggestion
 
DevilRed said:
Do you REALLY think that is realistic? Especially with that fat feck insisting on it in the first place?

Thats how raiola makes his money, he gets a cut of the transfer fee and other agent fees when the player moves clubs.

He obviously doesn't get much if anything at all for renewing a deal. He also certainly would ask for a wage that dortmund would never be able to afford.
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Have to play devil's advocate now.

This demonisation of Raiola is getting a little bit out of hand. His bad reputation primarily comes from the fact that he's fiercely loyal towards his players and prioritizes their well-being above everything. I've never heard that he fell out with one of his clients and if he would try to manipulate them into deals only he profits from, this would have happened quite a few times by now. So I think if the player tells Raiola he wants to stay, he'll eventually support that. As a club, you have a problem the moment the player wants out and you want him to stay. In such situations, Raiola is pretty much your nightmare.

Funny thing is, clubs complain about him but when he's on their side, they have absolutely no problem with his methods. When Dortmund wanted Mkhitaryan as a Götze replacement but Donezk was eager to make him stay, they even "hired" Raiola to get him out of his contract. A few years down the road, this came back to bite them in the ass when Mkhitaryan wanted to leave for United and became a persona non grata because of his behaviour. And now you're the ones complaining about him while Dortmund is happy to make a deal with him again. It's always the same story.

I don't think Raiola is that morally reprehensible. Yes, some of his methods are shady, but most of the time he's just doing his job, which means achieving the best results for the players he consults. He helps players make the best out of their bargaining position and since clubs don't like that (and fans are loyal towards clubs, not players) hes often the scapegoat.
 
Zehner said:
Have to play devil's advocate now.

This demonisation of Raiola is getting a little bit out of hand. His bad reputation primarily comes from the fact that he's fiercely loyal towards his players and prioritizes their well-being above everything. I've never heard that he fell out with one of his clients and if he would try to manipulate them into deals only he profits from, this would have happened quite a few times by now. So I think if the player tells Raiola he wants to stay, he'll eventually support that. As a club, you have a problem the moment the player wants out and you want him to stay. In such situations, Raiola is pretty much your nightmare.

Funny thing is, clubs complain about him but when he's on their side, they have absolutely no problem with his methods. When Dortmund wanted Mkhitaryan as a Götze replacement but Donezk was eager to make him stay, they even "hired" Raiola to get him out of his contract. A few years down the road, this came back to bite them in the ass when Mkhitaryan wanted to leave for United and became a persona non grata because of his behaviour. And now you're the ones complaining about him while Dortmund is happy to make a deal with him again. It's always the same story.

I don't think Raiola is that morally reprehensible. Yes, some of his methods are shady, but most of the time he's just doing his job, which means achieving the best results for the players he consults. He helps players make the best out of their bargaining position and since clubs don't like that (and fans are loyal towards clubs, not players) hes often the scapegoat.
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Fans like to blame agents because it allows them to not have to point a finger at a player they may like, instead just palming off all the blame on the agent. With the exception of those shady agencies that have those deals where they literally control where a player goes, like with Falcao, agents always act on the wishes of their clients. Usually this goes against what fans of said club may want, like a transfer away, so again, it's much easier to point a finger at the agent rather than accept that this is just what the player wants, and the agent is acting on their wishes. Someone posted a list a while back that showed Raiola has quite a few clients who have stayed put at their clubs, like Hamsik for example.

The disdain for agents is quite weird on the whole. Without them you would have clubs taking advantage of players left, right and center. In an area like football where there's so much money involved, players need good agents to get what they're worth. It's not hard to see it that way if you put yourself in the shoes of a player, rather than just thinking as a fan. There's a reason why agents like Raiola, who do whatever it takes to get what their client wants, are so popular.
 
Cloud7 said:
Fans like to blame agents because it allows them to not have to point a finger at a player they may like, instead just palming off all the blame on the agent. With the exception of those shady agencies that have those deals where they literally control where a player goes, like with Falcao, agents always act on the wishes of their clients. Usually this goes against what fans of said club may want, like a transfer away, so again, it's much easier to point a finger at the agent rather than accept that this is just what the player wants, and the agent is acting on their wishes. Someone posted a list a while back that showed Raiola has quite a few clients who have stayed put at their clubs, like Hamsik for example.

The disdain for agents is quite weird on the whole. Without them you would have clubs taking advantage of players left, right and center. In an area like football where there's so much money involved, players need good agents to get what they're worth. It's not hard to see it that way if you put yourself in the shoes of a player, rather than just thinking as a fan. There's a reason why agents like Raiola, who do whatever it takes to get what their client wants, are so popular.
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Yeah, those are exactly my thoughts. After all, players are usually still very young and more often than not not that educated. And the club representatives they're negotiating with are most often seasoned business.

Plain and simple, there's simply no other way for players to get their fair share without engaging such agents. Of course there are some who go farther than others are willing to do in order to see through their clients' interests, like Raiola, but it's no different the other way round.

It's clear that there are some black sheep among them who really try to manipulate players into signing contracts that are most benefitial to the agents themselves but I don't believe you can get to the top by doing that. Raiola isn't the one putting ideas in the player's head, he's the one to put through the ones which are already there. And if that means there will be scorched earth, so be it. Would be exactly the type of agent I'd want as a professional football player.
 
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