so Shaw and Holjund return and everything will be ok?
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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so Shaw and Holjund return and everything will be ok?
Also doesn’t include the attempt at walking it into the net at 3-0.
I voted back because I genuinely don't know how you can sack a manager that was so vocally and unequivocallyfavoured by the clubs fanbase even after last season.
The fanbase are the soul of the club, they'll outlive the INEOS, Glazers, managers and players. This is a football club, not a business and all the board are here to do is to deliver what the clubs key stakeholders (the fans) want.
Let him see out his contract, unless Old Trafford turns on him. Only then ineos will have the mandate to sack him. Until then you have to keep him.
The fanbase are the soul of the club, they'll outlive the INEOS, Glazers, managers and players. This is a football club, not a business and all the board are here to do is to deliver what the clubs key stakeholders (the fans) want.
Let him see out his contract, unless Old Trafford turns on him. Only then ineos will have the mandate to sack him. Until then you have to keep him.
Last 15 games:
No other clubs would allow this.
The worst part is that those stats flatter the performance, Utd have been even worse than that.
In the interest of balance, who is still backing him and why?
How did he work with Pep Guardiola and not learn a fecking thing? He must be so dumb it’s beyond words.
You might as well give him the season at that point. On current form (including backend of last season) we'll be well out of CL contention in a couple of months, however unrealistic that is.
He doesn’t seem to understand the concept of ‘single point of failure’, which is bad for a leader of any system. Surely the point of being a ‘great transition team’ can’t be continually getting fecked over in transition.
its embarrassing. Rival fans have been laughing at us for over 12 months.
I’ve backed him long now but enough is enough. Call it a knee jerk or whatever, we can’t afford another season a write off. He needs to be sacked. I don’t mind southgate or tuchel
His football just obviously doesn't work in the PL
Literally adopting the classic American Football playbook at this point. Rashford as a wide receiver.
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I keep seeing this popping up. Where is that passing network from ? Opta shows something which is a bit different but nowhere near as bad that tweet makes it look.
https://theanalyst.com/na/2024/09/man-utd-vs-liverpool-stats-premier-league-live
And also the one salah put over the bar from 12 yards. I struggle to see how they only had 1.5 chances to score
His “football” won’t work anywhere.
He's a fundamentally bad manager with a sky high arrogance. He's never going to learn, adapt or change anything. Even with his job on the line.
I know we're feeling angry right now but there's no excuse for saying that Woodward was anything other than a idiotic cnut who knew feck all about football and dragged this club into the gutter, which is the same place his mum shat him out 52 years ago.
Oleball was bood and thunder compared to this
His Ajax team were very good.
I guess he means that the players are away on duty, therefor he can't implement anything new
If the expectation is someone who wouldn't be awful there's lots of alternatives. We really need to change our mindset from trying to look for someone we think will win us a title. That isn't who we are any more and that really isn't what we need in any event. We're not that Manchester United now. We need someone who can come in and be given the chance to build something. Someone capable of after a few weeks can evidence some kind of tactical cohesion and unity. I think it's wrong to suggest there's nobody out there who can do it. I think many believe there's no good alternative because the standard people are applying is: 'Who can win us the league?'.
We need to stop looking at manager's trophy records before deciding if someone is good enough to manage us. We're a ridiculous outfit.
I don't understand what's ridiculous about it.
He didn’t play this “system” at Ajax. He already said for some weird reason that system isn’t going to work here. So this is not the system he employed there.
I don’t really know how someone can get pasted so frequently home and away, and still be in the job. He’s been here long enough and had enough backing to accept pretty much 100% accountability at this point.
It’s ridiculous people are posting that stat. To show what?
How do you think he came to be bald?
Neutral opinion here. For how long is it possible to say he isn't part of the problem?
Surely you’d have known this before a ball was even kicked? It’s just comically bad management.
So if we get in a manager who insists on possession football does that mean Ugarte is benched?
We still need a passing midfielder and a top winger, as much as a new coach.
We still need a passing midfielder and a top winger, as much as a new coach.
Don't worry, plenty of oppos in disguise think he's doing just great
Is it only a matter of when now? Like with Mourinho after 0-3 against Spurs. Doesn't feel the same to me but could be the case.
He mentioned earlier how he's giving young players a chance and won the cups. And it's absolute truth. But also an indication he perhaps doesn't believe he can make us better in league. Made us worse actually with time and that should not be happening.
We wrote last season off to give him time. Got the Fa Cup in return. But can't throw away another season. If team continues to struggle, sack him at latest by the end of October.
He mentioned earlier how he's giving young players a chance and won the cups. And it's absolute truth. But also an indication he perhaps doesn't believe he can make us better in league. Made us worse actually with time and that should not be happening.
We wrote last season off to give him time. Got the Fa Cup in return. But can't throw away another season. If team continues to struggle, sack him at latest by the end of October.
I know but I feel he is continually underestimating the league and not learning.
Exactly, it's the players. According to the guy making excuses for his job.
As it was all last season but we were told that wasn't Erik's intention.
I think when we mention alternative we are judging managers on a name basis rather than looking at what they bring to the table.
I think in application many managers do a better job with this current selection of players.
I wouldn't oppose INEOS going for a hire that isn't renown.
Barely two games in and the team has lost against managers who aren't renown or sought after.
Also look at the emergence of Chelsea, still a long way to go but from a performance standpoint they look night and day different to what Poch was doing.
If you asked the average United fan last season a choice between Maresca and Poch they would choose Mauricio, this is the issue we need a manager who will build the foundations on the training ground to progress from not one who has former pedigree.
There are countless managers in world football who will do better than Erik from a performance standpoint, he's proving to be one of the worst coaches I can think of.
It does tell you that Liverpool took all their chances (3 shots on goal, 3 goals - 4/4 if you include the offside). We had some chances but didn't take them, what seems fair assessment of the game.
I don't think it was particularly bad game apart from whatever is supposed to happen in the final third because that is a mystery to me and seems like it's also the same for the players.
That's fair enough. I guess I'm saying that based on what actually happened, the 0-3 scoreline is harsh.
Around and around and around in circles. What a farce
I think he means the international players who are leaving the club and coming back.
So many things to look at there. 16 points in 15 games. -7 goal difference. 0 away wins. Draws and losses at home adding up to more than wins. +1 goal difference at home.
It gets worse the more you look at it.
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