I don’t want Southgate anywhere near us, but we wouldn’t be anywhere near as bad as this even under him.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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It's probably just DeLigt and Martinez ignoring his instructions like the entire squad allegedly chose to do last season for some inexplicable reason.
This is exactly how low our standards have become. One win against soton does not change shit.
His goose is cooked. Supported him but defeats are damaging.
Can’t be losing this regularly 3 seasons in.
Can’t be losing this regularly 3 seasons in.
And he’d be right
I'm not sure about that, I'd have to watch the game again. My comment was about xg which doesn't lie even if it's clearly not a perfect stat.
It is what it is with Ten Hag. I was expecting a much better start to the season. However, I can't say that I am shocked we have only three points. It's horrible losing to Liverpool but sadly it's becoming something we expect. We shot ourselves in the foot first half. That's partly on him but, as a coach, how can you predict a five time Champions League winner will implode? Poor second half I agree but coming back from 2-0 against that lot was always gonna be an ask.
I have images of SJR walking into that dressing room, walking up to Ten Hag as the bald goblin starts to speaks, and just back handed slapping him across the face. Then security dragging him out as everyone falls silent. “You lot will be next, if that happens again” he says to the stunned squad.
Monday morning the squad rock up to find a new manager and SJR looking on menacingly from behind the balcony at Carrington.
Monday morning the squad rock up to find a new manager and SJR looking on menacingly from behind the balcony at Carrington.
Genuinely mid table form and so many of our fans are happy with this and/or deluded themselves thinking it will get better under him.
Even more alarming are the new people in charge of the football side didn't see a problem with this.
This is what I meant by low standards surrounding this club.
I really cant stand the thought of a caretaker again. I think Ineos need to look at the squad - which is not without talent- and find the best available manager that suits the players we have and the vision ineos want. I cant imagine southgate is anything near that style.
I think tuchel, van nistelrooy, or potter are all likely names to be considered too given availability. Or if looking at managers at clubs where you'd have to use financial muscle to get them, De Zerbi is instantly delivering at marseille, and a couple of the managers in the PL are decent.
Jim and co looked seething but they’ve only got themselves to blame. They had the perfect opportunity to get rid of ETH at the end of the season on a bit of a high but they buckled under the fan pressure to keep him off the back of winning a single game, instead of looking at the absolute dross that was served up on a weekly basis for the majority of the season. Fix your mistake early, while there’s still everything to play for!
In lack of good options, yes. But we could possibly get some talented manager.
Anyone starting to think maybe the injuries weren't the major reason we were so shit last season?
No he said that there were no specific instructions for their press. Man to man.
He said he's carrying on the instructions from the Klopp era so people claiming he's somehow changing everything mudded
The turncoats, and there were many, are absolutely partly responsible, yes. Fans are major stakeholders and INEOS would not have kept him on if the ETH out camp had been as vocal as it was before that single match. But so many people inexplicable jumped the back the manager bandwagon after that one match. Which also makes the outrage today a bit hypocritical. After that one match, most fans seemingly wanted him to stay. People asked for more ETH football, and well, now they’re getting it.
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It is probably the most basic form of pressing
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Watch again? Did you close your eyes for the entire match the first time?
The buck stops with him. Losing 3-0 at home to Liverpool is embarrassing. If we aren't comfortable top 4 by December then sack him and give the new guy half a season to learn the ropes.
Perfectly illustrates the tactics, win it, hoof it behind for the fast guys to chase.
Dutch sophistication.
This. Casimero and Rashford elevated the team during that earlier period but both have dropped off massively and ETH hasn’t found another way to win consistently or score at an acceptable rate.
Ineos need to be brutal. Admit to their error and get rid. Should have gone for Flick as they could have blown Barcelona’s offer away financially. Look at the differences in performances let alone results despite Barca’s injury list.
He needs to be Cersei Lannistered naked through the streets of Manchester, egg and feces thrown at him…..bell ringing……”shame, shame!”
I think he can.
Worked for Liverpool
No he isn’t
Jose and LVG got sacked for way less than Ten Hag has produced.
There is literally no point in continuing this farce.
There is literally no point in continuing this farce.
Yoro and Mount are injured. Club stalwarts missing on a big day.Anyone starting to think maybe the injuries weren't the major reason we were so shit last season?
Yep. Which is mad. Don’t want him, but I genuinely believe he’d have done better than Ten Hag last season.
He wouldn’t win the league with 55 games
I think I'm done with him now, all the positivity of our pre season is gone. Into a 2 week international break on a huge downer after 3 crap performances and 2 very bad defeats, so disappointed.
Games are won and lost in midfield and we have to build teams around Bruno being tactically inept,
He’s not street smart enough with the league to realise that you need someone like that sometimes, he thinks he’s still at Ajax. Where he can build a team slowly and methodically, but the premier league just isn’t like that. It has to be instant results or there’s instant pressure..
everyone we bring in seems to be learning on the job and the fans are paying for it every week.
We need players who know the league, and a manager who plays attacking football, I think this will be his last season but the state of the team in general worries me, for anyone who inherits it
He’s not street smart enough with the league to realise that you need someone like that sometimes, he thinks he’s still at Ajax. Where he can build a team slowly and methodically, but the premier league just isn’t like that. It has to be instant results or there’s instant pressure..
everyone we bring in seems to be learning on the job and the fans are paying for it every week.
We need players who know the league, and a manager who plays attacking football, I think this will be his last season but the state of the team in general worries me, for anyone who inherits it
I just want us to play exciting football again tbh. We spent nearly £200m strengthening our defensive game and but we can barely string an attack together.
No but we'd be a lot more boring.
This is the same thought process that kept EtH in charge, that we can't do better. At this point, anything is better and I guarantee we won't be this bad under Ruud or anyone in the interim.
Unforgivable for not moving Garnacho to left wing at any point in game. Should have replaced Zirkzee with Amad and moved Rashford to cf.
Can’t see any positive in the first 3 games.
Can’t see any positive in the first 3 games.
No I didn't watch the game with my eyes closed, cmon man.
My point is that goal scoring opportunities are a lot more nebulous than shots which is what xg is based on. I'm sure there were times where we had a decent goal scoring opportunity but didn't get a shot off which is why I said I'd have to watch again.
You give me another word that accurately describes them better than dunces.
Who knows.
We are still pressing from the front with a deep lying back four and a DM he knows has no legs - it’s absolutely suicidal.
Casemiro makes this worse by getting up oppositions arses to avoid any foot races and thus leaving gaps behind him too - truly cowardly.
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I think he will have some slack whilst the new signings bed in. We are without our only out and out striker, our two natural LBs are injured and the only DM we've got has only just signed. But if things don't click soon it will get ugly for him. Shame it didn't work out after a decent first campaign but his football is dogshit, he's thoroughly uninspiring and we could well enter a situation where a number of gettable options are easily preferable.
We aren’t boring now? Losing and being dominated most games?
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